Majora Vs. Ganon

Originally Posted by twilightnutjrk1

i do think gannon is more powerful and evil but i still think majora is badass. but, sorta like what erickson was saying. gannon is evil for a purpose when majora is like that for (this might be a stretch) fun. if majora is like that for "fun" then that would make him very evil

No that would make him a lunatic. Evil is not equal to destruction you have to realize that.

Ganon has a purpose, Majora just wanted to destroy Termina.

Originally Posted by King_Zora

Ganon has a purpose, Majora just wanted to destroy Termina.

Majora does have a purpose. He was an ancient sacrifical match some tribe used, and he possesed his wearer with undeniable power, and, no respect for life. He takes advantage over weak minds like the skull kids, crushes their consiousness and get's them blammed for attemptng to destroy the world. After you save Termina, the skullkid probably wasn't welcomed into Termina anymore, since most people didn't know the mask was possesing him.

Gannondorf keeps trying to assemble the triforce and rule Hyrule, even though he's been killed by the hero over seven times. He is short sighted and thinks his plans will always work. But they never do. He is stubborn enough about his so called 'Power' that he LET'S Link come to him, then get's killed shortly afterwards or banished. He doesn't give up even though he knows it's hopeless.

Majora didn't even know Link was following him. Every time they actually met after he turned Link into a Deku scrub, time was always reset. He never knew Link was still there. And unlike Gannondorf, his plan would have never been stopped if Tatl didn't help Link.

Gannondorf's plan had a chance to have been wrecked by even Zelda. She had the light arrows. She could easily have gotten a sword. And in Sheik's form, she was fast enough to easily outmeneuver Gannondorf. When Link fought him, he was so sure about his victory he didn't even trap him in a crystal like he did to Zelda. His plan would have worked if his hatred for hero's in green clothing hadn't made him want to kill Link like that. Plus, if you kill a triforce-bearer you don't get their triforce piece. So Gannondorf screwed himself up by openly opposing Link, instead of calling on the triforce then and there like he did In WW.

Majora is a psycho lunatic mask, and knows only evil. It was banished from Termina long before Gannondorf was even born. It was banished because the godesses KNEW it's power would end up destroying Termina, then Hyrule and the lands beyond. They didn't bother doing the same thing for Gannondorf. They let the sages do the work for them AFTER Gannondorf became a threat. They easily could have done it themselves if they realized he would do it himself.

According to Nintendo

"Created ages ago by a long-forgotten race, Majora's Mask is a mysterious relic which holds unimaginable power. True evil is held within the mask, and whoever wears it is unable to resist the dark temptations which lurk deep within their minds. Majora's Mask, though, is just a physical symbol of the dark evil which hides beneath the surface. Link was able to defeat that evil force in Termina, but no one is certain that it is gone for good."

Majora mask then seems to do something far worse then Ganon could ever do, Feed upon the subconcious hatred and evil and use it to bring out the worst of whoever it wears bringing out the most evil aspect of a man.

Originally Posted by King_Zora

Yeah, Majora was easy but I struggled a bit on Majora's Wrath. I beat Majora without Fierce Deity (Never completed all the mask missions)

When I first played through MM years ago I beat Majora's Wrath as a Zora as I had no arrows >..> Depressing times!

Majora. Because it is an evil mask.
It was really weird because I thought it was just the SkullKid but I was really shocked when it was really the mask. O__O

Ganondorf wasn't really evil, he was just too easy to beat, even though it too me a while to defeat him the first time in OOT.

Majora isn't as blatantly evil as Ganondorf. Rather, it seems to be mischievous. It seems to just want to play around. It even gives Link the Fierce Deity mask so they can be equal in strength (even though the mask allows Link to royally kick Majora's ass to infinity and beyond).

OoT and WW are two very good reasons why Ganondorf wins this over for me.

Originally Posted by Stick Link

Majora does have a purpose. He was an ancient sacrifical match some tribe used, and he possesed his wearer with undeniable power, and, no respect for life. He takes advantage over weak minds like the skull kids, crushes their consiousness and get's them blammed for attemptng to destroy the world. After you save Termina, the skullkid probably wasn't welcomed into Termina anymore, since most people didn't know the mask was possesing him.

However, most people in Termina didn't even know that Skull Kid was doing anything wrong in MM other than temporarily being a prick.

Originally Posted by Stick Link

Gannondorf keeps trying to assemble the triforce and rule Hyrule, even though he's been killed by the hero over seven times. He is short sighted and thinks his plans will always work. But they never do.

The plan of Majora's Mask didn't work either. Also, two of Ganondorf's plans did work in OoT (using the Chosen Ones to conquer Hyrule and capturing Zelda by letting Link run around).

Originally Posted by Stick Link

And unlike Gannondorf, his plan would have never been stopped if Tatl didn't help Link.

To be honest, Tatl really wasn't that important.

Originally Posted by Stick Link

Plus, if you kill a triforce-bearer you don't get their triforce piece.

You actually do in some circumstances; see LoZ.

Originally Posted by Stick Link

Majora is a psycho lunatic mask, and knows only evil.

However, Majora's Mask was likely just a mask that randomly came to life, like the scarecrows in OoT and MM to an extent. In a way it's a combat robot that was poorly programmed. Ganondorf, on the other hand, is an actual person, and the Light Sage Rauru even called Ganondorf the Evil Incarnation of Darkness.

Originally Posted by Stick Link

It was banished because the godesses KNEW it's power would end up destroying Termina, then Hyrule and the lands beyond.

Nowhere is it said that the Goddesses had any part to play in the sealing of Majora's Mask. Also, the mask apparently wanted to kill itself with the falling moon.

Originally Posted by Stick Link

They didn't bother doing the same thing for Gannondorf.

They personally descended to Hyrule to stop Ganondorf in TWW's backstory.

Well seeing as Ganondorf himself can be called a victim of evil, not to mention not being completely devoid of positive traits (even bad men love thier mama's!) while Majora is no victim and has nothing good going for him at all I have to say Majora.

While Ganondorf is certainly the more powerful of the two I'm on the fence of who would dominate in a regular meeting. I mean a man with incredible powers but with blindness to danger caused by pride and lack of morals finds mask that brings out your worst and creates a subterfuge of being a harmless giver of power. I don't know who the winner is, but it sure isn't the innocent bystander.

Majora is psychotic and personally ruins the lives of every individual each and causes mass pain and depression while keeping people alive to suffer pain for three days before eliminating them, and destroying the world, not just taking over it.

Majora is more evil and heartless, and insane.

Ganon, even though he's a bit overused. Majora's Chicken Phase was just silly (Phase 2).

Also, I agree with Average Gamer. Well said there.

Originally Posted by King Octorock

Majora just wanted to eat the world, Ganondorf wanted to rule it. In my opinion, this makes Majora eviler.

This guy took the words right out of my mouth.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

However, most people in Termina didn't even know that Skull Kid was doing anything wrong in MM other than temporarily being a prick.

I'm going to butt in here and say that that is pretty wrong in many ways, the first of which I can think of being the King in Ikana. Yes, raising a slumbered land back to life and taking away their eternal rest is temporarily being a prick.

And besides, that doesn't really matter when it stands for genocide.

As for my own personal opinion:

Originally Posted by Potent Col

Majora is psychotic and personally ruins the lives of every individual each and causes mass pain and depression while keeping people alive to suffer pain for three days before eliminating them, and destroying the world, not just taking over it.

Majora is more evil and heartless, and insane.

Yeah, this basically works for me, although maybe I'm biased due to MM's overall better storyline and more alive world than Ocarina's >___>

And I will admit, in Ocarina and Wind Waker Ganondorf was really awesome. Like, really, really awesome.

I just fail to see how being a lunatic qualifies someone as being more evil! The skull kid actually seemed to be kind of childish! But TP ganon was a heartless monster that sought to blot out light forever, remember his speech at the end of WW, he had a motivation for his evil! That is what makes him truly evil!

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

The plan of Majora's Mask didn't work either. Also, two of Ganondorf's plans did work in OoT (using the Chosen Ones to conquer Hyrule and capturing Zelda by letting Link run around).

majoras plan DID work. link had to go back in time to stop him. majora suceeded. and if the only way he could be stopped is for someone to go back in time multiple times while to beat gannon link didnt have to would show that majora is more powerful.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

However, Majora's Mask was likely just a mask that randomly came to life, like the scarecrows in OoT and MM to an extent. In a way it's a combat robot that was poorly programmed. Ganondorf, on the other hand, is an actual person, and the Light Sage Rauru even called Ganondorf the Evil Incarnation of Darkness.

majoras mask didnt randomly come to life.

Originally Posted by twilightnutjrk1

majoras plan DID work. link had to go back in time to stop him. majora suceeded. and if the only way he could be stopped is for someone to go back in time multiple times while to beat gannon link didnt have to would show that majora is more powerful.

No. The ability t oturn back time is a testament to the fact that his plans are technically foiled REPEATEDLEY, not counting the fact that Link saved the four giants that stopped the moon. Ganon simply never used his powers for the sake of maniacal catastrophe, just malevolent tyranny. Doing something evil out of the intention for it is more evil than just doing it out of some sort of insanity.

I would choose majora mainly for the fact that i like him better but also because he was freaking insane. Also, in another post about stone tower, there was a bunch of stuff about majora being worshiped by the ikanans, after they were warped to a hell realm by the goddesses and found the mask.

I'm not sure who'd win. I think maybe Ganondorf. Sure, you could argue that Majora has the power to pull down a moon, but as demonstrated in MM, it takes 3 days. Ganondorf wouldn't need 3 days to defeat Majora. Mind you, if Majora could turn link in the Deku, what could he do to Ganondorf? Still, if he tried that, i'm sue he could whip up some sort of counter magic to use against it.

Ganondorf, even when weakened was able to alter the weather. Majora was able to force Link to go back in time to escape the falling moon, but the fact that Link was able to go back in time and help people over the course of three days, to a limited extent, foils Majora's plans. I vote Ganonodrf as being nore evil, and more powerful. Plus he plays the Organ

Originally Posted by Lunar6

No. The ability to turn back time is a testament to the fact that his plans are technically foiled REPEATEDLEY, not counting the fact that Link saved the four giants that stopped the moon. Ganon simply never used his powers for the sake of maniacal catastrophe, just malevolent tyranny. Doing something evil out of the intention for it is more evil than just doing it out of some sort of insanity.

What are you on about? Everytime you rewind the days time goes on as usual for everyone else and everything is destroyed. If anything Link is foiled repeatedly and only wins once.
Also, while I remember, the Mask required full on divine intervention by a Goddess to beat, Ganondorf needed this too but then again he already had part of the powers of one of them.
So we have a mask with no connection to any gods, which required the help of a god to stop.
And finally, if your entire purpose is to cause suffering, mayhem and the end of life as we know it, it's not out of insanity, it's from its nature.