Poe Salesman Evidence

Originally Posted by GoronGeak

What I mean by that is look at the guards legs then the poe salesman they are disportionate.

Keep in mind that this is a videogame. Ganon's Tower collapsed straight down and vanished.

Keep in mind that this is a videogame. Ganon's Tower collapsed straight down and vanished.

lol he has a very good point here, it's not like they spent hours planning to make this poe guy the gaurd I mean, as far as I see it the evdince you have for t being him is that fact that he is in the same spot after 7 years! If I work at a store for a while and then 7 years later you come back to that store and someone else is working there your not going to think I changed into that person... so placement is a very bad arguement for this.

If I work at a store for a while and then 7 years later you come back to that store and someone else is working there your not going to think I changed into that person... so placement is a very bad arguement for this.

I was merely pointing that out on top of the evidence already provided earlier in this thread, such as the guard's quotes. I thought that was obvious.

Whoever still thinks that the poe salesman is the little boy in Karkariko graveyard grown up, I have very much conclusive and obvious evidence that you are wrong. The Poe salesman calls you 'young man' Indicating that he is older than you. Only seven years have passed. The little boy would merely be a teen, and of course would not be older than you. Comparing this to the Guard actually saying that he had an active interest in poes, i think the answer is black and white.

Okay im busted im just trying say that there is not enough evidence to conclude

Im,new,and ive contemplated with this for a long time.

Wow...that's powerful information. It is very interesting. I'll have to look more into that too.

I was merely pointing that out on top of the evidence already provided earlier in this thread, such as the guard's quotes. I thought that was obvious.

Whoever still thinks that the poe salesman is the little boy in Karkariko graveyard grown up, I have very much conclusive and obvious evidence that you are wrong. The Poe salesman calls you 'young man' Indicating that he is older than you. Only seven years have passed. The little boy would merely be a teen, and of course would not be older than you. Comparing this to the Guard actually saying that he had an active interest in poes, i think the answer is black and white.

if this is true then that means that he is the single surviving resident of castle town. I mean he would be the first person in that town to survive and then the only person in hyrule to be changed into a monster!

Ok, Blue Fire's first post hit right on the spot.

Do you honestly think that the Zelda game-makers cared about this trivial detail? I'm sure they would've very briefly decided on having the Market guard become the poe salesman when Link was an adult. But they would've left it at that and moved on. Hence why they left the hint in the guard's dialogue about being fascinated in ghosts. However, all this farfetched drivel about the poe salesman wearing the mask of truth (or that he ransacked the Happy Mask Shop on a drunken rampage) is really quite off par.

When Link travels through the gate of time, he still keeps the Mask of Truth in his inventory. Some people seem to think that the Mask parted with Link during the seven years that Link quickly time travelled. Why would anyone think that? That's beyond ridiculous. Link is the only person who can travel through time at that precise period, because he is the only one who holds the Master Sword. The Mask stayed with him the whole time, because nothing can enter in or out of the realm while Link is there (except maybe the sages who hold other keys into the realm).

Furthermore, when Link becomes an adult, if you open your inventory, you will still see the Mask of Truth. Yes, it is grey and un-usable, but so is the slingshot and the boomerang and the goron's bracelet etc. That doesn't mean those items mysteriously disappeared! It just means you cannot possibly use them as an adult. If you think in realistic terms, it seems preposterous that adult link cannot use the slingshot or the boomerang, but remember, this is a video game! The game-makers intended on having Young Link's items for Young Link only, and Adult Link's items for Adult Link only. Because it fits with the gameplay. The hookshot is to replace the boomerang, the fairy bow is to replace the slingshot. It's to vary the gameplay, and it makes perfect sense. So don't go thinking that the Mask of Truth disappeared and fell into another person's hands. It is simply un-usable as an adult.

Going back to the guard and the poe salesman, the likeliest explanation requires little imagination and makes sense seeing as though this is a fantasy game. Remember, not every detail needs a solid explanation. I'm sure the game-makers couldn't care less about it.

Basically, when Ganondorf came into power, he and his minions stormed through the Hyrule Market wiping out everything in their path. When Ganondorf came across the guard, the guard pleaded for his life saying that he would happily join his empire because he was interested in evil. Ganondorf spared him, and turned his human form into a ghoulish creature. Then the creature began his poe business, and was happy.

I'm just going to throw this in, but I always thought of that red dot as some sort of
mouth.
Isn't it to low on his face to be an eye?

Also, I'm not going to track down the quote, but someone said that the Poe Salesman has no feet. I took a picture of him with my cellphone, and he clearly has feet. Hopefully this picture will help spawn other theories aswell.



(The reason not all the buttons are in the picture is because I was halfasleep when I took it, but to prove it's validation, I'll point out the 88 in the bottom left courner)

Also, while I'm at it, anyone got a theory for that lanturn?
Could he be a poe aswell?

Originally Posted by lost_souls

if this is true then that means that he is the single surviving resident of castle town. I mean he would be the first person in that town to survive and then the only person in hyrule to be changed into a monster!

actually most of the residents of castle town fled to kakariko village.
here is a better picture of the salesman:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4...alesmanql1.png

Originally Posted by skitz89

Ok, Blue Fire's first post hit right on the spot.

Do you honestly think that the Zelda game-makers cared about this trivial detail? I'm sure they would've very briefly decided on having the Market guard become the poe salesman when Link was an adult. But they would've left it at that and moved on. Hence why they left the hint in the guard's dialogue about being fascinated in ghosts. However, all this farfetched drivel about the poe salesman wearing the mask of truth (or that he ransacked the Happy Mask Shop on a drunken rampage) is really quite off par.

When Link travels through the gate of time, he still keeps the Mask of Truth in his inventory. Some people seem to think that the Mask parted with Link during the seven years that Link quickly time travelled. Why would anyone think that? That's beyond ridiculous. Link is the only person who can travel through time at that precise period, because he is the only one who holds the Master Sword. The Mask stayed with him the whole time, because nothing can enter in or out of the realm while Link is there (except maybe the sages who hold other keys into the realm).

Furthermore, when Link becomes an adult, if you open your inventory, you will still see the Mask of Truth. Yes, it is grey and un-usable, but so is the slingshot and the boomerang and the goron's bracelet etc. That doesn't mean those items mysteriously disappeared! It just means you cannot possibly use them as an adult. If you think in realistic terms, it seems preposterous that adult link cannot use the slingshot or the boomerang, but remember, this is a video game! The game-makers intended on having Young Link's items for Young Link only, and Adult Link's items for Adult Link only. Because it fits with the gameplay. The hookshot is to replace the boomerang, the fairy bow is to replace the slingshot. It's to vary the gameplay, and it makes perfect sense. So don't go thinking that the Mask of Truth disappeared and fell into another person's hands. It is simply un-usable as an adult.

Going back to the guard and the poe salesman, the likeliest explanation requires little imagination and makes sense seeing as though this is a fantasy game. Remember, not every detail needs a solid explanation. I'm sure the game-makers couldn't care less about it.

Basically, when Ganondorf came into power, he and his minions stormed through the Hyrule Market wiping out everything in their path. When Ganondorf came across the guard, the guard pleaded for his life saying that he would happily join his empire because he was interested in evil. Ganondorf spared him, and turned his human form into a ghoulish creature. Then the creature began his poe business, and was happy.

i couldnt agree more

Originally Posted by ZeldaGamer21

I know that a thread concerning the Poe Salesman was already made (because I posted a lot in there !), but I've now found proof that the Poe Salesman was the bored soldier in the house next to the drawbridge. If you go into Hyrule Market at night and talk to the bored soldier, he won't say his usual "let's break some pots to let of some steam" speech. Instead he'll say this:

And we all know that after Ganondorf takes over Hyrule, the house that the soldier is in is occupied by the Poe Salesman, who is very interested in ghosts aswell. This is undeniable proof that the bored soldier does indeed become the Poe Salesman.

I have a lot of other information about the Poe Salesman, so while I'm talking about him, I may as well post it. He has a picture of the Triforce drawn at a strange angle, so that the Triforce of Courage is nearest to the camera if it were a photograph. This could be because he was a guard, and guards needed to be courageous.

Also, if you look at his head from every angle, he has his hood positioned so that he could see with both his eyes, but he only has one, and it glows red. There may be a reason why he appears to have only one eye. He says he can read people's minds, and what item in Hyrule is described as being able to read minds? The Mask of Truth. If you look at the Happy Mask Shop as Adult Link, it isn't just badly damaged like the other houses, it's been completely obliterated. The Mask of Truth had only one eyehole in the middle of it for people to see through, so I think that the Poe Salesman ransacked the remains of the Happy Mask Shop, and took the Mask of Truth. This would explain why he appears to have one eye, and can read minds.

It can be questioned, where does he get his food and drink from? I don't know, but he certainly wouldn't be allowed into Kakariko Village to get it. I think that because the Poe Salesman worships Ganondorf, Ganondorf supplies him with food and drink. The Poe Salesman appears to have a perticuler taste for a certain type of Hyrulean Ale/Beer/Wine/Champagne/Alcoholic liquid. Where did I get this info from? If you look at the bottom of his bed, you'll notice several bottles, some of which are standing up, some of which are lying down, obviously empty.

This is about as much information on the Poe Salesman that I know. Please tell me your thoughts, and I hope you agree with the evidence suggesting that the bored soldier became the Poe Salesman.

what about the connection between him and MMs poe minigame "shopkeeper"(ikana), and the same guy sitting at the top of the wall waiting to see the garos mask (to raise the tree u hookshot to get to ikana canyon) && the the minigame "shopkeeper" behind the falls in ikana . (the one where you fight the minibosses over again)

Yeah I knew that...check out the drawing of the triforce behind him too. I don't know why, but i connected that to him being a soldier for some reason.

Originally Posted by DakZhul

Yeah I knew that...check out the drawing of the triforce behind him too. I don't know why, but i connected that to him being a soldier for some reason.

So did I. I think the Soldier died and came back as the poe salesman. The Salesman wearing the triforce is very odd.