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Old 04-09-2005, 04:43 PM
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Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

The other day i was playing AOL. I notice something odd about the evil wizard. I then played ALttP then it started to make sense. My theroy can be true. Here's my theroy:


what if Agahnim is the Evil Wizard from AOL. If you notice they look pretty identical to each other. They both are evil and have powers. They both have a mysterious background. Can it be true? After all when the Evil Wizard cast that spell he then hid in the woods (or something like that.) It can be possible he comes back again in ALttP because he now knows that there is evil he can part with...Ganon. Again this can be a very strategeric (sp) move since again he has a mysterious background so who will remember him? Does anyone agree with my theroy? Is this possible? Feel free to share your thoughts.
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:52 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Hmm...there have been many questions on this exact topic, there is a lot of evidence I can see that but I believe there wasn't any connection or relevance between them at all, but I have always thought it could be very possible at the same time. Although you seem to mention many similarites in conclusion I dont think Agahnim is the Evil Wizard but thats just my opinion, I'll look into it though. I have always thought this wizard was just on his own and commited his very own evil, I have never really compared Agahnim with him
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

That does make alot of sense! I mean both times he attacked Zelda as a way of getting link's attention. Also, in a side note, have you played LA on Gameboy? This Actually relates to Aghanim, but I don't want to ruin it for people who haven't played the game...

Aghanim is one of the forms of the Nightmares on Koholint Island... I'ts true! Look it up if you don't beleive me. Here, I'm quoting this from ZU info... The second form is the evil wizard, Agahnim. When he shoots a magic ball at you, reflect it back at him with your sword to cause damage. Be careful though, he may throw other blasts that can't be reflected.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:59 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

I don't think it's possible. In that would mean AOL happens before ALTTP. Agahnim would need an insanely long life to do that, living through the imprisoning war and the time when ganon is somehow ressurected, I don't think it can be. It makes more sense for alttp to be first.
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:05 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

just take this as a note

Attlp was supposed to be the prequel to LOZ( the storyline) if you read Prima's stradgy guide for WW you would have known
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:33 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Too many *action*'s in that last post... I think was the longest spam in history! If you have any other questions, Ixidor, there are threads for that kind of stuff.

Agahnim, is a wizard, he could live for a long time, I mean, didn't Merlin live insanely long, didn't Gandalf live insanely long? All I'm saying is it could be that he lived that long. Or what if Ganon kept him alive that long for the very purpose to throw the hero off his own trail?
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:37 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Agahnim can't be so.. because Agahnim was Ganon afterall. Remember when you beat him and he transform into the bat?! That was Ganon.. simple as that..
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:42 AM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

The wizard dies in the AoL backstory.
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:18 AM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

It could be true nintendo always does crazy things like that. In AoL I heard all the towns are named after the sages and Impa is in the game to.
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:07 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Well, technically the sages are named after the towns, AoL being released before OoT.
And Impa's in lots of games - LoZ, AoL, OoS, OoA, OoT, Wand of G.
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:09 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

hi im new, but anyway on topic:

its basically like the evolution of everything else in the zelda games:

zola-zora
kokiri-korok
etc.

and thats just the names, in things like the wizard in AOL (lol AOL, like the internet) was copied in style to be Agahnim, it happens a lot in this guys games (Mario and Zelda mainly)

also merlin "left his humanity" and continued being a being on the world, but he wasnt exactly a human anymore, so technically thats not a good comparison

also Gandalf is a Maiar (like Sauroman and Sauron) and they all live a long time...

but then again its a fantasy world, it could be anything...

and Agahnim isnt Ganon, Ganons spirit was just technically in Agahnim, the whole bat thing, is meant to represent their similiarity and style of life/magic...
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:13 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

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hi im new, but anyway on topic:

its basically like the evolution of everything else in the zelda games:

zola-zora
kokiri-korok
etc.

and thats just the names, in things like the wizard in AOL (lol AOL, like the internet) was copied in style to be Agahnim, it happens a lot in this guys games (Mario and Zelda mainly)

also merlin "left his humanity" and continued being a being on the world, but he wasnt exactly a human anymore, so technically thats not a good comparison

also Gandalf is a Maiar (like Sauroman and Sauron) and they all live a long time...

but then again its a fantasy world, it could be anything...

and Agahnim isnt Ganon, Ganons spirit was just technically in Agahnim, the whole bat thing, is meant to represent their similiarity and style of life/magic...
well actually i believe zolas didn't envolve into zoras. There are totally different species if i'm wrong someone please correct me

oh yeah by the way showsni the wizard didn't die he fleed to the forest.
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:23 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

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well actually i believe zolas didn't envolve into zoras. There are totally different species if i'm wrong someone please correct me

oh yeah by the way showsni the wizard didn't die he fleed to the forest.
I'f I'm correct, there are the river Zoras and ocean Zoras. River Zoras are the hostile creatures spitting fireballs at you, and the ocean zoras are the kind race we see in OoT, OoA, and other games. Zolas, I believe, are the evil reflections of ocean Zoras in the Dark World. But then again, they were called Zolas in the first LoZ.

Where did you find that the wizard fled to the forest? It never says he fled to the forest. I've heard that he fled to the Great Palace, but no forest. And, the prolouge to AoL clearly says he "breathed his last" (or something like that) indicating he died.

I think the wizard in AoL has no comparison to Agahnim or is Agahnim at all.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:00 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

hero of time, i meant that the names, and generally being a race of water creatures that are half-human and half-sea monster (in general) are the similarities.....same with koroks and kkokiris (even though we do know the connection)
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:09 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

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I'f I'm correct, there are the river Zoras and ocean Zoras. River Zoras are the hostile creatures spitting fireballs at you, and the ocean zoras are the kind race we see in OoT, OoA, and other games. Zolas, I believe, are the evil reflections of ocean Zoras in the Dark World. But then again, they were called Zolas in the first LoZ.

Where did you find that the wizard fled to the forest? It never says he fled to the forest. I've heard that he fled to the Great Palace, but no forest. And, the prolouge to AoL clearly says he "breathed his last" (or something like that) indicating he died.

I think the wizard in AoL has no comparison to Agahnim or is Agahnim at all.

well i think i saw it at www.zeldalegends.net. I think it was in the game storyline i'm not sure. I think you should be familiar with that site right?
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Yeah, I'm familiar with that site, but I also know the webmaster a bit, and he told me that some of the storyline articles he comes up with he doesn't always believe. But, ot each his own of course!
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:40 AM
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oh yeah by the way showsni the wizard didn't die he fleed to the forest.
To quote the AoL manual:
"At the same time, the magician also fell down and breathed his last."

See. He's dead.
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:27 AM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Yeah, this is a good theory. And it would explain why that wizard was trying to get the Triforce of Courage, because at the end of aLttP it was revealed that Agahnim is another, less powerful form of Ganon, an alterego. But you might say 'But Agahnim was destroyed'. Well, remember that you just defeated Ganon in his Agahnim form. And, after being defeated, Ganon has a knack for getting ressurected. So he could have used his Agahnim alterego more than once.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:33 AM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Fuzzycoat, OoT was NOT. THE. FIRST. ZELDA GAME. The sage names originally came from AoL, and Impa was in LoZ and AoL before OoT came out.
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:00 AM
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Re: Agahnim is the Evil Wizard?

Superspork , the OoT is the first game in the story line... But LoZ is the first game in the series...

EDIT: :embrsd: Haha, oops... Read your post alittle better... You ARE saying LoZ is the first game in the series... Weeeeellllll, it still stands about what I said about OoT being first in storyline... and if any one wanna nock down my theory PM me(seeing how this is off topic)!
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