How big do you think Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 is?

Given all the towns and all the palaces(are these kingdoms or are these just temples?) in Zelda 2 how big is this Zelda 2 map?

When trying to match it up with any map in any Zelda game, it becomes impossible to do. However if I think of the entire area of Zelda 2 as a much larger area. Then I don't have to compare any of the other Zelda maps to this game.

Since there are maps of Zelda 1 to the south of Zelda 2, then one could say they're about the same width.

This is kind of annoying.

The Zelda I map actually fits into a very small portion of the Zelda II map.



See the lower left corner.

Originally Posted by The Iron Giant

The Zelda I map actually fits into a very small portion of the Zelda II map.



See the lower left corner.

It makes me wonder if we will ever hear from these N/NE-erly parts of Hyrule ever again. It sure is a large mass of land.

I meant when comparing them to LTTP, Ocarina Of Time, etc.
Did they decide to move around during both of these games or what. Nothing matches up!

I think that during AlttP and OoT they decided to give Hyrule an overhaul, as Nintendo's graphical ability increased.

Originally Posted by The Iron Giant

The Zelda I map actually fits into a very small portion of the Zelda II map.

I'm of the belief that it's just an Easter egg. It's too miniscule.

Originally Posted by Air Man

I'm of the belief that it's just an Easter egg. It's too miniscule.

Well, the map for LoZ is referred to as a kingdom in Hyrule, or something like that. The exact quote escapes me right now.

But Zelda II's map is pretty big. One of the largest in the series, I'd believe.

Originally Posted by Air Man

I'm of the belief that it's just an Easter egg. It's too miniscule.

We already know that the overworld in AoL isn't to scale, as Link would be the size of a town otherwize.

This makes it being "relatively" small irrelevant.

Originally Posted by KingOfHeart

I meant when comparing them to LTTP, Ocarina Of Time, etc.
Did they decide to move around during both of these games or what. Nothing matches up!

It does match up. Look at the map. Zelda 2 takes place mostly in a large area set north and notheast-ish of Death Mountain.

Here, maybe this picture will help


You can see death mountain, spectacle rock, the graveyard, the lost woods, etc...

Originally Posted by The Iron Giant

We already know that the overworld in AoL isn't to scale, as Link would be the size of a town otherwize.

This makes it being "relatively" small irrelevant.

I understand that AoL scales very different, and I still think it's too small even then. For AoL's Hyrule to be, what, a hundred times the size of LoZ's entire portion seems baffling.

Originally Posted by Air Man

I understand that AoL scales very different, and I still think it's too small even then. For AoL's Hyrule to be, what, a hundred times the size of LoZ's entire portion seems baffling.

It is baffling, but it works if you are willing to accept that the battle between Ganon and Link took place in only a small portion of Hyrule. If Hyrule is a country as well as a kingdom, then AoL's size makes more sense.

LoZ's Hyrule placement in AoL's map also makes sense when you consider landmarks. In the first game, Death Mountain is in the northern part of the map, and stretches all the way accross horizontally. In AoL, Death Mountain is in the south west corner of the map, with the bit of land we are talking about just below it. It is similar to the map of the original LoZ, and is ALSO the only visible land below Death Mountain.

It makes sense, baffling or not.

I've got a couple of other maps which support Zelda 1's world fitting into Zelda 2's Hyrule:

It always confused me that there were so many locations in Zelda II but no Hyrule Castle... I hope this game gets a remake one day.

Originally Posted by Spoon Link

It always confused me that there were so many locations in Zelda II but no Hyrule Castle... I hope this game gets a remake one day.

I honestly would have liked a LoZ remake better than an OoT remake.

I want a Wii Ware or a DSI Ware release of Zelda II, you know a different game but with the same engine.

Originally Posted by Spoon Link

It always confused me that there were so many locations in Zelda II but no Hyrule Castle... I hope this game gets a remake one day.

Back then they called it North Castle.

Originally Posted by The Iron Giant

I honestly would have liked a LoZ remake better than an OoT remake.

I'd actually love to see AoL re-made into a 3D game. There are some flaws in the gameplay that would need to be improved, but honestly it has a lot of potential. Huge overworld, many towns, interesting locations, challenging, plus it's a throwback to classic Hyrule.

In LTTP there's a desert to the west. In Zelda 2 the deserts are to the north. So how far did Link travel in Hyrule to reach these deserts.

Also why is Death Mountain to the south?
I know in LTTP there's mountains around the whole map, and it would of made more sense if the mountain was closer to the castle.

My only theory is that the mountains just to the south of the castle is Death Mountain as well, and it just keeps on extending.

Originally Posted by Lysia

Back then they called it North Castle.

Originally Posted by KingOfHeart

In LTTP there's a desert to the west. In Zelda 2 the deserts are to the north. So how far did Link travel in Hyrule to reach these deserts.

Also why is Death Mountain to the south?
I know in LTTP there's mountains around the whole map, and it would of made more sense if the mountain was closer to the castle.

My only theory is that the mountains just to the south of the castle is Death Mountain as well, and it just keeps on extending.

Actually, I believe the little bit at the bottom of the map that represents the Zelda 1 Hyrule is the part of Hyrule we are so commonly used to seeing. I believe that everything in Zelda 2 (North of Death Mountain) hasn't showed up in any later games. What I'm trying to say is, in Zelda 1, Death Mountain is to the North, just like OoT, ALttP, etc... everything north of Death Mountain is not supposed to match up with the Hyrule we are used to seeing, because that Hyrule is the small area from Zelda 1. In my opinion.