MM and the adult timeline

Me and a friend were having a discussion about what would had happened to Termina in the adult timeline if the moon was still going to crash into it. I think that it would have been destroyed since Link would not be there to save it but my friend believes it would have been saved since he believes Termina could have an equivalent of Link who would have saved it.

I would appreciate your theories. Thanks!

I'm not exactly sure about the nature of some events on both sides of the split, in comparison, but it surely is entirely possible that the Adult Timeline Happy Mask Salesman had a different schedule. THe entire basis for the Moon's destructive course toward Termina was upon a chance encounter; The mask being stolen by Skull Kid. If this hadn't occured for any reason, the events of Majora's Mask would not have come to pass at all.

Does anyone have any ideas about this? I'm not sure about the exact nature of the split, for example; when in time Link returns, or on a slightly unrelated note, when exactly he leaves for Termina. Also, would Ganondorf's attack on Hyrule Castle affect the Happy Mask Shop? Is it prudent to assume that the events of the Adult timeline would even need to play out in the same fashion?

If the circumstances were right for the Moon to destroy Termina, then I can only say that it must have occured.

I think the split happened when Link got sent back into his childhood and then changed the future by warning Zelda about what was going to happened to Hyrule.

I understand that Termina might not have ever be in danger in the adult timeline but if the mask had still be stolen and the moon had still be heading toward it wouldn't that mean in the adult timeline it would have been destroyed? I would love to hear everyone's theories.

Well, that doesnt really answer the question - Did Link go back prior to his collection of the spiritual stones? I have heard some say that the Goron's Bracelet is no longer on his arm, although I cannot verify this. Surely an array of theorists here know the answer to this question.

In my opinion, if the Mask had still been stolen, and every event had played out similairly, without Link's intervention, Termina would be more than doomed. "Destined to fade', as Kaepora put it. However, some events in Termina would still have changed without Link's presence. The short events prior to the Three day cycle, (Skull Kid robbing Link) would not have occured, and even in that time concequences could have been different.

I wonder what would the Mask Salesman have done if he had not asked for Link's assistance in returning the Mask? I don't know if the question of what would have happened is really that important.

It all depends on when the mask was stolen. If it was after the Mask Man set up shop in Hyrule, this probably doesn't occur on the child timeline; Link in the adult timeline saves the Mask Man's business and he probably would not have left and therefor not been robbed. If it was before the Mask Man set up shop in Hyrule then he gets robbed on both timelines and Termina is more or less ☭☭☭☭ed without Link's assistance.

My guess is that it happened very close to the beginning of the game, since the Mask Man seems to have not made any progress in getting his mask back when he confronts Link.

My guess is that it happened very close to the beginning of the game, since the Mask Man seems to have not made any progress in getting his mask back when he confronts Link.

It should also be noted that the faries are with Skull Kid at the time of the robbery, so that also gives a rough time frame in which the robbery could have taken place. Tael and Tatl's relationship with Skull Kid appears to have been short.

The truly interesting thing to me is this however - If Majora's Mask did not destroy Termina in the Adult Timeline, it must continue to exist, it's evil uncleansed, presumably in the possession of the Mask Salesman. Unless we also consider the validity of when the Salesman found the Mask originally, I suppose.

Well, what main events would be affected by the adult timeline?
Are there any?
1. Tatl and Tael would always be together and Tatl wouldn't undergo the character evolution that she did when partnered with Link.
2. ?
Now you're probably asking me: "You mean there's only one actual main change?"
Well I'm saying: "Yes."
This change isn't going to help Termina, infact, quite the opposite!
So Termina is indeed doomed. But then we go back to the actual time of the crime: 7 years AHEAD of when Termina was mean't to be destroyed. If the adult timeline isn't an alternate reality and is simply the future of the world where, at the present time (7 years ahead) link is non-existent, that doesn't rule out the fact that, in the past, child link saved Termina before he disappeared from existence. But that is not able to be confirmed as there is no evident reason why Link would disappear from existence before he arrived in the future. So the real future timeline is most likely an alternate reality, which means that Link did not exist in the past, during the time that Termina was in need of aid. There is a possibility that Links actions from the other timeline, could be carried through to this one, but that is more of a theory. So, Termina would be destroyed in the adult timeline. What your friend says about an equalibrial balance of Links is merely another unconfirmed theory and is probably not true.

There is a possibility that Links actions from the other timeline, could be carried through to this one, but that is more of a theory.

Actually, come to think of it, Link was apparently using the power of the 'Goddess of Time' throughout Majora's Mask, and at the end of the game, as we all know, the many different good deeds that Link achieves throughout the many cycles are merged into a single time.

If this can happen, it isnt entirely unfounded to assume that perhaps the Goddess in charge of this time travel situation decided to save both futures by doing the same thing, except in regard to the seperate timelines.

After all, the original split itself was caused by the Ocarina of Time. Perhaps Link saved Termina in both timelines, because the power he was using permitted it. Then again, that theory would require a little assumption.

The happy mask man might have been too busy getting oppressed by Ganondorf to be going on a quest in search for some ancient artifact.

Changing the subject slightly, if Termina is indeed destroyed, that proves that is it an alternate universe, and not the same one as Hyrule. On the AT (at night), we can see the moon at night. And I assume Hyrule is like Earth, in by which I mean there is only one satellite, called 'Moon'.

I think this: the Happy Mask Salesman went for the Majora's Mask shortly before the attack of Ganon (that's why we don't see him in the Adult portion of OoT) in both timelines. Link wandering in the Lost Woods is the only event that changes in the Timelines.

So, the moonfall occurs in both lines, but Termina only survives in the Child one.

Originally Posted by Hyperactivity

It should also be noted that the faries are with Skull Kid at the time of the robbery, so that also gives a rough time frame in which the robbery could have taken place. Tael and Tatl's relationship with Skull Kid appears to have been short.

He met the fairies after the Bombers kicked him out, as I recall. The Bombers refer to the event as if it were distant but, considering their age, it was probably a few months in the past. That could put his robbery of the Mask Man a little before or after the split.
Though, if it were before the split, that would mean that the Mask Man was robbed and then set up shop in Hyrule and then traveled to Termina to get it back. That seems like kind of a stretch to me, so I'm guessing it was shortly after.

Of course, if the Mask Man in Majora's Mask is a Terminian counterpart, none of this may matter. It occurs to me that, although he says he intends to leave, he may still be from there.

Of course, if the Mask Man in Majora's Mask is a Terminian counterpart, none of this may matter. It occurs to me that, although he says he intends to leave, he may still be from there.

He claims to own the Happy Mask Shop, so it's quite certain that they are the same.

Broadly, the mentality surrounding the 'parallel' and the idea of counterparts for any other content than that shown isnt a logically sound idea in my opinion, nor is it implied by any information regarding the 'parallel'. The only information provided claims that characters may 'seem familiar at first glance', to quote the manual. Where the idea that each character must have a counterpart originated, I don't know.

Termina explodes, everyone in it dies.

I don't really see how it could happen any other way.

Originally Posted by Hyperactivity

He claims to own the Happy Mask Shop, so it's quite certain that they are the same.

Broadly, the mentality surrounding the 'parallel' and the idea of counterparts for any other content than that shown isnt a logically sound idea in my opinion, nor is it implied by any information regarding the 'parallel'. The only information provided claims that characters may 'seem familiar at first glance', to quote the manual. Where the idea that each character must have a counterpart originated, I don't know.

All I was saying is that, possibly, he's another case of a Terminian dude who looks exactly the ♥♥♥♥ing same as a Hyrulean dude. While there may not be a rule, it's not like it's unheard of.