Kaepora Gaebora: Is he Rauru?

[Feere Gorone]

Personally, i think he is. There are two Gossip Stones (or maybe it was one) in the Sacred Forest Meadow. They say something along the lines of "The own Kaepora Gaebora was once a sage" Or something like that. Can someone find me the actual quote on the Gossip Stone? Oh ya, the other stone said that Gaebora's really light or something.

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by Feere Gorone

Personally, i think he is. There are two Gossip Stones (or maybe it was one) in the Sacred Forest Meadow. They say something along the lines of "The own Kaepora Gaebora was once a sage" Or something like that. Can someone find me the actual quote on the Gossip Stone? Oh ya, the other stone said that Gaebora's really light or something.

Originally Posted by Gossip Stone

They say that strange owl, Kaepora Gaebora, may look big and heavy, but its character is rather lighthearted.

Originally Posted by Gossip Stone

They say that the owl named Kaepora Gaebora is the reincarnation of an ancient sage.

In my opinion he could be any ancient sage. I think the first quote about his character wasn't meant to hint that he was the Sage of Light or anything. It's a possibility though.

[zeldagamer]

I always thought that Kaepora Gaebora could be Rauru. Rauru i think says something like he has been watching over Link and he could be refering to the time he watches over him as an owl.
And about the gossip stones, although it does not actually say that Rauru is the light sage, it could be in a way be refering to it. Like how it says he is "light hearted". In the end its just gossips and the information giving can be misinterprited.

[smallville boy]

For sure Kaepora Gaebora is the rencarnation of Rauru the ancient sage of light. the two gossip stones thogeter confirm it, and also the physicall similiritys.


.GOSSIP STONE ONE:
-"Kaepora gaebora is the rencarnation of a ancient sage",
We know that Rauru is a ancient sage.

GOSSIP STONE TWO:
- "but its character is rather lighthearted."
It's a game of words, to reffer to the light sage.

[Magic-Tech]

I personally don't believe Rauru was intended to be KG's secret identity for some reasons.
-Personality-wise they seem to have little in common. Rauru is completely to the point and no-nonsense, while KG is stated to be lighthearted. I know it can be taken as a pun of sorts, but sometimes things are as they are.
-KG never believed in the Hero of Time, however Rauru's entire purpose appears to be awaiting the same hero.
-KG speaks of it 'not being his time anymore', seems to me he's saying he's done all he can for Link. But this obviously isn't the case for Rauru, who Link needs to topple Ganon.
-Can any of you truly see Rauru saying 'Wait up, pal?'

[SevenYears]

Rauru kind of looks like a big owl, but I don't believe it's him either. I wonder what form KG was as a sage, and what kinds of things he did way back then. Maybe he had to be awakened as a sage like the other 7 in Oot, maybe not.

[MajorasWrath1]

Wait a minute. Does anyone see a problem with the fact that Rauru is still alive? The Sacred Realm isn't the past. There's the Light World and Dark World as in ALTTP, Hyrule and the Sacred Realm. Just because he lives in the Sacred Realm doesn't mean he's dead.

[MyTeamLevel100]

Kaepora Gaebora is the sage of the sky he tells you that :p

[Skeletonband]

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Wait a minute. Does anyone see a problem with the fact that Rauru is still alive? The Sacred Realm isn't the past. There's the Light World and Dark World as in ALTTP, Hyrule and the Sacred Realm. Just because he lives in the Sacred Realm doesn't mean he's dead.

I don't remember hearing or reading anything that said he was alive. If you think about it, all the sages die before they find out they are a sage. Saria gets killed, Darunia gets killed, they all get killed before they find out they are a sage. So Rauru could of been alive before he knew he was a sage and died (or got killed) and found out he was a sage.

[MyTeamLevel100]

Originally Posted by Skeletonband

I don't remember hearing or reading anything that said he was alive. If you think about it, all the sages die before they find out they are a sage. Saria gets killed, Darunia gets killed, they all get killed before they find out they are a sage. So Rauru could of been alive before he knew he was a sage and died (or got killed) and found out he was a sage.

I never new they all died.

[DocStellar]

I don't remmember Kaepora Gaebora... Which game is he even in?

[smallville boy]

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Wait a minute. Does anyone see a problem with the fact that Rauru is still alive? The Sacred Realm isn't the past. There's the Light World and Dark World as in ALTTP, Hyrule and the Sacred Realm. Just because he lives in the Sacred Realm doesn't mean he's dead.

Rauru is a ANCIENT Sage, He with the others ANCIENTSages, build the temple of time so many years before OOT.Long Long Tine Ago
He is a entity, a spirit that live in the Sacred Realm, he reincarned in Kaepora Gaebora to live with the normal people, with the "mortals".

[Avalon]

I don't remmember Kaepora Gaebora... Which game is he even in?

It's the Owl that you skipped all the lines of.

[smallville boy]

Originally Posted by Avalon

It's the Owl that you skipped all the lines of.

LOL, i always read his lines,kaepora gaebora is the rencarnation of a wise men, the rencarnation of the ancient sage of light(Rauru), always have somenthing important to say.

[Skeletonband]

Originally Posted by MyTeamLevel100

I never new that all died.

Well, you just assume that they all die. Saria gets taken by the enemies in the Forest Temple and killed (thats my best guess). Darunia goes inside Volvagia's room to destroy him but gets killed instead. Ruto gets killed as well possibly. Impa goes inside the Well to seal Bongo Bongo again and gets killed by him. Nabooru gets sucked into the sand by Twinrova.

Now those are all just guesses on how some of them die...but a couple could be true...like Darunia.

[MyTeamLevel100]

Originally Posted by Skeletonband

Well, you just assume that they all die. Saria gets taken by the enemies in the Forest Temple and killed (thats my best guess). Darunia goes inside Volvagia's room to destroy him but gets killed instead. Ruto gets killed as well possibly. Impa goes inside the Well to seal Bongo Bongo again and gets killed by him. Nabooru gets sucked into the sand by Twinrova.

Now those are all just guesses on how some of them die...but a couple could be true...like Darunia.

But you fig Nabooru as a mini boss just before you take on those witches they coudn't of had time to kill her in a few seconds.

[Skeletonband]

Originally Posted by MyTeamLevel100

But you fig Nabooru as a mini boss just before you take on those witches they coudn't of had time to kill her in a few seconds.

Well, you fight her as the mini-boss and you weaken her. The two witches come (Koume and Kotatke) come and shoot two balls of light at her and she disappears. You go outside onto one of the statue's hands and you get the Golden Gauntlets and you hear a scream. You look down and see Nabooru sinking into the sand with Koume and Kotatke flying in circles above her. This is all when you are a child. So it could be that she is killed in the Child Timeline but can't awaken because Twinrova's soul is keeping her connected to the earth. Maybe.

[Avalon]

You see that scene with the sand as a kid. you fight her as an adult right before Twinrova.

[MyTeamLevel100]

Originally Posted by Skeletonband

Well, you fight her as the mini-boss and you weaken her. The two witches come (Koume and Kotatke) come and shoot two balls of light at her and she disappears. You go outside onto one of the statue's hands and you get the Golden Gauntlets and you hear a scream. You look down and see Nabooru sinking into the sand with Koume and Kotatke flying in circles above her. This is all when you are a child. So it could be that she is killed in the Child Timeline but can't awaken because Twinrova's soul is keeping her connected to the earth. Maybe.

I see but when you beat her she seems to snap out of the confusion and Koume and Kotatke teleport her to ganondorf. They say something like we will make you work for ganondorf. But he could of killed her as soon as she arrived but i doubt that.

[smallville boy]

Ruto,Saria,Nabouru,Darunia,Impa was awakened as a sages, don't die, that's not the word, they pass to another level, a spiritual level, become a entitys, they dont be killed to become a sages, they are sealed in the temples, are atrapped, and when link free the seal they can become a sages, they can awakened as a sages.

[MyTeamLevel100]

Originally Posted by smallville boy

Ruto,Saria,Nabouru,Darunia,Impa was awakened as a sages, don't die, that's not the word, they pass to another level, a spiritual level, become a entitys, they dont be killed to become a sages, they are sealed in the temples, are atrapped, and when link free the seal they can become a sages, can awakened as a sages.

Ahh so when you beat the boss you free the seal.

[Erimgard]

I don't think he's Rauru. I don't necessarily think Rauru is in the first 'set' of Sages. As we've seen in various games, Sages don't live forever and they are replaced at times. I think KG is a reincarnation of a sage before Rauru's time.

[Link219]

Personally I think the Sages are spirits in a physical form, and when you defeat the boss, then they leave the physical world (hyrule) and go to the Spiritual World (the Chamber of Sages).

As for the annoying Owl, Rauru is not annoying, he is direct to the point. Kaepora just keeps babbling on till you just wanna hack n' slash at him.

[FierceDiety77]

I like to think Kaepora Gaebora was Rauru, yet he can't be. Rauru, he's a sage, he's known that the hero would come, and known the role he, and the sages would have to play. In the Spirit Temple the Owl says to Link he thought a hero travelling through time wasn't actually possible, but he was wrong. Could a sage be so wrong in something they should know????

Bringing a second theory to the ranks, some people believe, and I find this theory more feasible, that the Owl is the Deku Tree's re-incarnation so to speak. Not necessarily a re-incarnation, yet throughout Zelda people do survive in some form after their death. King Hyrule as KORL, OoT Link, as the dude who teached Link moves in TP, and why not the deku tree as the owl.

The owl appears right after the Deku Tree dies, and speaks with wisdom, as the deku tree did, though somewhat different. The Owl already knew Links name too!!!

I see the owl as Links guardian who watches over him, even into Termina. I don't think Rauru is going to do that, I think the deku tree would because he fulfills his duty.. Links mother intrusted him to the deku Tree, and I think he would fulfill that duty, even in death, through a different form. He isn't in later games, such as WW because he was only the OoT Links gaurdian.

On an other theory if Hyrule has guardian spirits or angels on each person, Kaepora Gaebora is Links!!!

[MajorasWrath1]

Originally Posted by Skeletonband

I don't remember hearing or reading anything that said he was alive. If you think about it, all the sages die before they find out they are a sage. Saria gets killed, Darunia gets killed, they all get killed before they find out they are a sage. So Rauru could of been alive before he knew he was a sage and died (or got killed) and found out he was a sage.

No hold on. Saria does NOT get killed in the Forest Temple. You think she can get past a 5-ton moblin with an earthquake-inducing club, but dies to what? A wolfos? Come on. The whole forest reverbrates with her melody, she's in total control. This is because she's always been the Sage of Forest, she just hadn't awakened to it yet. So your theory is not correct. Furthermore, even if Rauru WAS dead, which he clearly isn't since he physically speaks to you, his spirit can't be both in the Sacred Realm and in an owl at the same time.

Originally Posted by FierceDiety77

I like to think Kaepora Gaebora was Rauru, yet he can't be. Rauru, he's a sage, he's known that the hero would come, and known the role he, and the sages would have to play. In the Spirit Temple the Owl says to Link he thought a hero travelling through time wasn't actually possible, but he was wrong. Could a sage be so wrong in something they should know????

Good point.

Also, no-one hears Rauru saying "Do you wanna hear what I said again??"

Originally Posted by Erimgard

I don't think he's Rauru. I don't necessarily think Rauru is in the first 'set' of Sages. As we've seen in various games, Sages don't live forever and they are replaced at times. I think KG is a reincarnation of a sage before Rauru's time.

Yep, I agree.