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Old 01-31-2007, 04:32 PM
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What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

This could contain spoilers for people who have not beaten the game.

At the end of the game Link is a kid, and returns to Zelda in the castle. But this has always baffled me. First why has Link decided to return to Zelda? Also since he went back in time, have the sages been activated, and Ganon sealed away? Because when Link went back in time he took away all that time he got those sages, and helped seal away Ganon.

The main questions are why is Link with Zelda at the end? And have the sages been awakened, and has Ganon been sealed away at the end?:confused:
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Old 01-31-2007, 04:35 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

Well it all depends on what timeline you use...

Split - there are now two different times in which Link is an adult and a child. In the adult the sages have been awakened and Ganondorf is sealed. He is saying good-bye to Zelda before he embarks on the journey to Termina...but does Zelda remember everything?
UWM - Link is a child, sages have not been awakened, Ganondorf is still 'at large' but they assume that Link and Zelda warn the King of what Ganondorf will do....
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

Well i believe in the UWM theory but i also think that there is only one link/zelda/ganondorf (in OoT) that just go back and forth through time. I think when he goes back that link and zelda are the only ones in the game and Ganondorf/Ganon has been sealed for good because since he was sealed in the future he can't be sent back to the past since he's in another dimension.

~I'm aware my logic doesnt make much since but i don't worry much about the timeline or how things happen i just enjoy how fun the game are. (besides the only timeline i REALLY belive in is OoT->MM->TP->TWW->PH because i don't like all the 2D games and don't think they should count.)
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:07 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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Well i believe in the UWM theory but i also think that there is only one link/zelda/ganondorf (in OoT) that just go back and forth through time. I think when he goes back that link and zelda are the only ones in the game and Ganondorf/Ganon has been sealed for good because since he was sealed in the future he can't be sent back to the past since he's in another dimension.

~I'm aware my logic doesnt make much since but i don't worry much about the timeline or how things happen i just enjoy how fun the game are. (besides the only timeline i REALLY belive in is OoT->MM->TP->TWW->PH because i don't like all the 2D games and don't think they should count.)
Well yes
But the way you said it was wrong
Ganondorf would become unsealed or else... how does he get to the arbiter's grounds?
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

That is a good question, Why did Link go to see Zelda again.
When i sen it i thought it would be in connection with the next Zelda game

Then when i played MM it really didnt really make sense.

Nintendo's did it again!!!!
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:47 PM
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Well yes
But the way you said it was wrong
Ganondorf would become unsealed or else... how does he get to the arbiter's grounds?
I am nowhere near being a timeline theorist, but maybe, 100 years later (when TP happens) Ganondorf escapes the Sacred Realm (which he can do, apparently).
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The sages incarcerate him and sentence him to death. The execution attempt fails, and they are forced to banish him to another dimension again, this time the Twilight Realm.

That's just an idea that came up spur of the moment.
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

They never said anything about a seal failing at all. That is in tWW!
Why would they take him out of the sacred realm?
It makes sense that this happens after the child ending in the split timeline. Zelda and Link warn the king and together they capture Ganondorf and have him executed.
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

Here is what I think: After Ganon is sealed. Link puts away the sword and goes back in time and meets Zelda. When Link meets Zelda, it is the time when he first meets her and he warns her of what is to come in seven years. They both warn the king who later banishes Ganon. Ganon finds away into the sacred realm because Link left it open when coming back from the future. He gets the triforce of power. While link is young is goes to termina and the events of MM take place. In later years after the moon stopped falling, the sages are ready to execute Ganon at the arbiters grounds but he kills one of them and takes the sword he uses in TP. Link is grown up and lives in Ordon while Zelda remains in Hyrule then the events in TP take place.
That is what I believe until we get confirmed info.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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Well it all depends on what timeline you use...

Split - there are now two different times in which Link is an adult and a child. In the adult the sages have been awakened and Ganondorf is sealed. He is saying good-bye to Zelda before he embarks on the journey to Termina...but does Zelda remember everything?
UWM - Link is a child, sages have not been awakened, Ganondorf is still 'at large' but they assume that Link and Zelda warn the King of what Ganondorf will do....
I don't understand how people can believe the UWM timeline. I believe Zelda mentioned her dreams to the king before she even met Link. What difference is a peasent(sp?)(Link) gonna make?
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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I don't understand how people can believe the UWM timeline. I believe Zelda mentioned her dreams to the king before she even met Link. What difference is a peasent(sp?)(Link) gonna make?
Precisely, Although Link does have the ToC, but then the king may suspect that Link was the villain or that he apinted it on lol This seems to be the 'major' flaw in that timeline but one isn't all that bad.

The UWM timeline is very 'believable' seeing as how the split-timeline is complicated.
"People tend to sway towards the simple"

EDIT: i just posted this in another thread but it makes sense here.


The child Link returns to what his life would have been like. The events do not happen again because the child Link leaves hyrule forever and goes to Termina. The Ganondorf in the young part was captured (as seen in TP) and tried/executed, but that failed. Ganondorf here recognizes the hero of time (and not the chosen one from TP because he never saw that one) and he talks about the seal in the sacred realm etc.
While this is happening, The adult time continues but I think that there is no link in that one yet, so just time exists (as seen in everyone celebrating at the ranch). tWW follows this timeline because we see the stainglass pictures of the sages that he awakened. The sages are pearly white because they were never awakened in the child timeline because Link left and Ganondorf was captured.

This creates two Ganondorf's. There are two links because the link in the wind waker intro is the adult link leaving after saving hyrule. The child link never saved hyrule so there could not be a legend about him.

Now that you think about it, the split-timeline makes more and more sense as time passes.

I hope this makes sense.

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Old 02-01-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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~I'm aware my logic doesnt make much since but i don't worry much about the timeline or how things happen i just enjoy how fun the game are. (besides the only timeline i REALLY belive in is OoT->MM->TP->TWW->PH because i don't like all the 2D games and don't think they should count.)
Quoted for truth. IF Nintendo intend an actual tomelien to exist, I think it's fair to say it started at OoT. It was made round a time where story in games was mroe important and it makes sense that the original Zelda's were not created to be part of a bigger picture.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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This creates two Ganondorf's. There are two links because the link in the wind waker intro is the adult link leaving after saving hyrule. The child link never saved hyrule so there could not be a legend about him.
wasn't the link in the intro child link leaving for termia? because the link in ww is meant to be the same age as the hero of time and ww link looks like a child. the the intro keeps calling the hero of time a "boy"
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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They never said anything about a seal failing at all. That is in tWW!
Why would they take him out of the sacred realm?
It makes sense that this happens after the child ending in the split timeline. Zelda and Link warn the king and together they capture Ganondorf and have him executed.
I agree with this one. Also, maybe it just needs to stay unexplained. Ganondorf somehow manages to escape...
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:24 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

To your question asking why are Link and Zelda together at the end...

Personally i dont think that it is anything important , i thought the same but i've come to the conclusion that it was just Link saying goodbye to Zelda since they just endured a epic battle with Ganon/Ganondorf.This is because he is going to Termia and Zelda is staying in Hyrule.
But the whole sage mystery , is still a mystery to me.Since it was many years fowards when he beat Ganon from Link and Zelda standing there at the end it really confuses me how Ganon can be sealed away if they are in the present but he only died in the future , not they're present time.
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

This is somthing that has baffeled me since i beat the game. The spilt timeline is the thing that makes the most since to me. (I don't like the UWM thoery, it dosen't make since at all.

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Well it all depends on what timeline you use...

Split - there are now two different times in which Link is an adult and a child. In the adult the sages have been awakened and Ganondorf is sealed. He is saying good-bye to Zelda before he embarks on the journey to Termina...but does Zelda remember everything?
UWM - Link is a child, sages have not been awakened, Ganondorf is still 'at large' but they assume that Link and Zelda warn the King of what Ganondorf will do....
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:48 PM
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Re: What Happens At The End of Ocarina Of Time? *Possible Spoilers*

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To your question asking why are Link and Zelda together at the end...

Personally i dont think that it is anything important , i thought the same but i've come to the conclusion that it was just Link saying goodbye to Zelda since they just endured a epic battle with Ganon/Ganondorf.This is because he is going to Termia and Zelda is staying in Hyrule.
But the whole sage mystery , is still a mystery to me.Since it was many years fowards when he beat Ganon from Link and Zelda standing there at the end it really confuses me how Ganon can be sealed away if they are in the present but he only died in the future , not they're present time.
Well..some time has to have passed from that moment at the end of OoT and Link leaving for Termina. Zelda refers to "days we spent together in Hyrule" in the cutscene in MM, and acts as if they are close. She clearly hadn't just met him.
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