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Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

If you think epona has any important meaning to OoT post here and say why. You do not have to have evidencet to support your thinking but please, make sure it makes sense. I think epona is zelda's mom, just like the king changed into the boat to sort of watch over her. Zelda's mom turned into epona to do the same thing.

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Old 04-08-2006, 03:28 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

You're talking about both Zelda and Link. Which one is it?

Anyways. I think Epona is no more then Link's trusted companion, and steed. Simply a means of transportation. You have to think about it. The name Epona is only used in OOT and MM (and apparently the up-coming, TP). Epona never played a major role in any of those games.

If you really think Epona played a bigger role. The only role I can think of is that in both OOT and MM, it has something to do with Malon (or her Termina self). Epona is used in the story of you and Malon. It's sort of a gift of love from Malon, a symbol of showing her affection towards Link.
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

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all of the magazenes are saying (and online) that epona plays a very important role in TP
So if your talking about the Epona in TP, then isn't this thread in the wrong place?

Anyways. I still don't see Epona playing a major role in TP either. Unless Midna is Epona. I mean, Epona’s a girl, Midna’s a girl *hint hint*. Besides that, I don't see a major twist, or plot to the story in TP. I just don't think Nintendo would be dumb enough to base the main story around a horse, unless of coarse it's Midna.
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:43 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

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So if your talking about the Epona in TP, then isn't this thread in the wrong place?

Anyways. I still don't see Epona playing a major role in TP either. Unless Midna is Epona. I mean, Epona’s a girl, Midna’s a girl *hint hint*. Besides that, I don't see a major twist, or plot to the story in TP. I just don't think Nintendo would be dumb enough to base the main story around a horse, unless of coarse it's Midna.
No he's talking about OOT Epona ( i think )
and i think it would ruin the whole Zelda story if Epona is more then just a horse
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:19 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

I don't think Epona has any higher meaning, no deeper and more transcending role, than being a way of getting from one place to another with relative dispatch. As nayrus love mentioned, Epona teaches us that walking is lame. At least, in a video game. She may have the added role of being Link's friend, if we are to look beyond mere pixels and shape a more fan-fictional reality.
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:34 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

Besides being Link's trusted steed and companion Epona is a horse. You do realize that you can completely ignore her? If you fancy walking everywhere you can, this is for me alone is the reason that I think that Epona is just Link's steed. Besides the point of course that there is absolutely no clue to think otherwise.

In Gaulish and (later) Roman and Gallo-Roman mythology, Epona was the goddess of horses, donkeys, mules. She was particularly a goddess of fertility.

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So the only 'possible' thing is that Epona is the physical form of Din. As Din cultivated the land and made if fertile but this a very long stretch.
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:36 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

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If you think epona has any important meaning to OoT post here and say why. You do not have to have evidencet to support your thinking but please, make sure it makes sense. I think epona is links mom, just like the king changed into the boat to sort of watch over her. Zelda's mom turned into epona to do the same thing.
i want to know how you came up with the idea that Epona is Links mother when in FACT that Link's mother dies shortly after coming to the forest.

the King didnt turn into the boat, because you leave the boat and go to the chamber where the master sword is. The boat is magical, i think the King used one of the Gossip stones (sorta like the one you get from Tetra) to communicate through the boat. dont know how the movement worked, but no, you take Zelda(tetra) to meet with the King. The boat in no way is the King, but a vessel for him to communicate with.

your theory makes no sense, also how would she turn into a horse when it is said that his mother died?


To me, Epona was a horse only Malon could tame and control. Of course when you learn Epona's Song, epona kinda changes her mind. After Ganondorf took control of Hyrule Ingo kicked out Malon's father(cant remember his name) In a effort to help Malon out Link wins Epona so that Ingo wont present Epona to Ganondorf (which i assume Malon is disagreeing with)

Epona becomes one of your best friends and trusty steed and is willing to help you out as best as she can.

well of course Epona in TP(if thats the name) plays an important role. One of the bigger features about this game is that you can fight on your horse, and as we have seen in trailers that you do have some battles on your horse.
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:54 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

how did he get transformed into a boat?

because i dont remember reading anywhere that says he was turned into a boat. I may have missed something, but please point me into the direction where he was turned into a boat.

i mean, how could the boat be outside and the King be in the chamber where the master sword was.

anyways, i still want to know why you think so.
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Old 04-08-2006, 06:08 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

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how did he get transformed into a boat?

because i dont remember reading anywhere that says he was turned into a boat. I may have missed something, but please point me into the direction where he was turned into a boat.
he says he does in the room. this relates to epona because he wants to protect her in the room while epona is indirectly watching over zelda at the same time in OoT. They both want to watch over her but they have to do it separately, a horse in the middle of the ocean would not make sense. that's why the king's a boat while her mother is a horse in OoT.
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Old 04-08-2006, 09:05 PM
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Well, why would Zelda's Mother be at a Ranch, also if Epona was Zeldas mother wouldnt she be umm... bigger then that?(refering to the size as a Kid)
also, wouldnt Zelda's mother want to... i dont know actualy be close to Zelda when she is younger? It doesnt make sense, how on earth would she become a horse, and why wouldnt she just disguise herself as a servant(if your going to point out that Ganondorf and the King arnt enimies at the begining and she doesnt trust Ganondorf) so she could be close to Zelda, protect her AND hide from Ganondorf.

the thing is, Epona is a horse raised by Malon. If she was indeed a horse, she would be Zelda's not Link's/Malon's.

Sorry you said it doesnt have to have evidence to back stuff up, but it needs to make sense, and your theory doesnt. so many questions could be asked about it and with out evidence you cant properly explain yourself or back up it all.

all you got is that Link gets a horse, and that the King in tWW is a boat. other then the fact that they are both transportation, there is not one single piece of proof that could even point to it, no line, no sign and no mention of the Queen anywhere.

the thing is, Epona is just a regular horse, hey if later in the series that it mentions OoT Epona being the queen, i offer you to PM me and brag all you want.
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Old 04-08-2006, 09:16 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

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Well, why would Zelda's Mother be at a Ranch, also if Epona was Zeldas mother wouldnt she be umm... bigger then that?(refering to the size as a Kid)
also, wouldnt Zelda's mother want to... i dont know actualy be close to Zelda when she is younger? It doesnt make sense, how on earth would she become a horse, and why wouldnt she just disguise herself as a servant(if your going to point out that Ganondorf and the King arnt enimies at the begining and she doesnt trust Ganondorf) so she could be close to Zelda, protect her AND hide from Ganondorf.

the thing is, Epona is a horse raised by Malon. If she was indeed a horse, she would be Zelda's not Link's/Malon's.

Sorry you said it doesnt have to have evidence to back stuff up, but it needs to make sense, and your theory doesnt. so many questions could be asked about it and with out evidence you cant properly explain yourself or back up it all.

all you got is that Link gets a horse, and that the King in tWW is a boat. other then the fact that they are both transportation, there is not one single piece of proof that could even point to it, no line, no sign and no mention of the Queen anywhere.

the thing is, Epona is just a regular horse, hey if later in the series that it mentions OoT Epona being the queen, i offer you to PM me and brag all you want.
The king of the red lions turned from the king of hyrule. The ranch is the only unobvious place. She wouldn't neccesarily have to be big just because her mom turned to a horse. Not neccesarliy, she would not need to be zelda's. What if she was just looking out for her. Well, i thought of this because in TP epona is going to be very important, only one thing, epona related to zelda i thought.
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:40 PM
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well its not the size, epona while your a kid looks like a baby compared to the rest of them.

As for TP epona, by very important i think it will be almost nessicary to use her to travel Hyrule, from the trailers you can see how huge its going to be, and also they are introducing combat on your horse. I just hope TP is sorta like how most of the Zelda games are, you get to explore the land when you want to if you get bored or stuck on a certin part. Gotta love when you can explore when you want to and not have to beat the dungeon/temple right away.
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:57 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

traveling is not that important, you could stil walk accross it, do you think that the creator just placed epona in OoT just for traveling? and by chance epona is important?
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Old 04-09-2006, 03:19 PM
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If you think epona has any important meaning to OoT post here and say why. You do not have to have evidencet to support your thinking but please, make sure it makes sense. I think epona is links mom, just like the king changed into the boat to sort of watch over her. Zelda's mom turned into epona to do the same thing.
I'm sorry to shoot down your theorum, but it's obvious that you've never heard "Epona no Uta" (Epona's Song.) Yes, Nintendo of Japan ACTUALLY did write lyrics for Epona's Song. Here's the Japanese lyrics accompanied by its translation verse-by-verse.

Courtesy of animelyrics.com:

Epona Epona soba ni oide
Futari de ireba sabishiku nan ka nai
Epona, Epona, growing up with me
When I'm with you, I can't be lonely

Dakara Epona koko ni ite
Omae dake o mamotte ageru
Therefore, Epona, you are here
Growing up safely

Kou****e iru to omoi dasu
Ano hi no yoake
Tsuki ga shizumi taiyou to
Omae ga umareta
I started to think it was cold
At the dawn of that day
The moon had sunk, and with the sun
You were born

Epona Epona soba ni oide
Futari de ireba kanashiku nan ka nai
Epona, Epona, growing up with me
When I'm with you, I can't be sad

Dakara Epona koko ni ite
Watashi no uta o kiite ite ne
Therefore, Epona, you are here
Listening to my song

Kou****e iru to omoi dasu
Ano koro no koto
Omae no tame ni kaazan ga
Tsukutta kono uta
I started to think it was cold
Right at that time
For your sake
I'm making this song

Hmm.. Hmm..
Futari de ireba kanashiku nan ka nai
Hmm... Hmm...
When I'm with you, I can't be sad

Hmm.. Hmm..
Wasurenai demo kono uta
Kono uta...
Hmm... Hmm...
Never ever forget this song
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

thad does not change anything. my theory can still stand because that's only when they are growing up together she may have turned into a young horse (forgot what it's called mule or something) to fit the age of zelda. when epona was young, zelda was young. when epona is older, zelda is older (teenage)
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Old 04-09-2006, 03:26 PM
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Re: Do you think epona has any important meaning to the story?

Wait, KoRL is a ghost so I think he "possessed" the boat.

And Tre is right, the theory doesn't really hold. Epona is your friend and nothing more. And while the lyrics to that song don't necessarily preclude any deeper meaning for Epona, they pretty solidly indicate that the relationship we see in the game is all there is.
No hidden meanings. After all, if there were, they'd be in the game. What's the point of putting in hidden meanings if they aren't in the game?
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