End of the Game

At the end of OoT, does Link permanantly go back in time? I saw someone say that he does.

I think the history repeats itself and there would be actually two links.
Link1: is the link who has defeated ganon, and will go on a journey to Termina
Link2: Is the same Link but doesn't defeat ganon because he is already in de sacred realm.

One thing I dont get is, when Link is back in his own time, shouldn't Ganondorf still be alive?

I don't buy the two alternative endings idea. From what I can see link goes back in time so he can the childhood that he missed when he was frozen in time for seven years. No Gannondorf would not be back becuase he was "cast into the void"

Good point, when your in a void, none of the rules of reality apply. Link defeated Ganon/dorf, got him sealed in the void of the Sacred Realm, went back to live out his life again. But he lost Navi when he went back in time, so he goes to Termina to find her yadayadayada...

By the way ChrisHoulihan, are you the real Chris Houlihan who has a room named after him in ALttP, or is it just a username?

I'm under the opinion that his going back in time erases the whole thing from history and Ganon doesn't come. Heends up leaving for Termina though because he isn't Kokiri. I think Nintendo was very careful about not giving details so people wouldn't say they're using the incorrect time travel theory. They also made sure that MM took place in those seven years after Link went back so that no one could argue about more than one Link in the same plane.

I think Zelda sent him back in time BEFORE he opened the door of time. Because remember when he opened the door, Ganondorf was waiting just to enter the realm. So he could still be there when Link is sent back. But the void theory where reality does not apply to the void realm is plausible.

Originally Posted by ZeldaGamer21

Good point, when your in a void, none of the rules of reality apply. Link defeated Ganon/dorf, got him sealed in the void of the Sacred Realm, went back to live out his life again. But he lost Navi when he went back in time, so he goes to Termina to find her yadayadayada...

By the way ChrisHoulihan, are you the real Chris Houlihan who has a room named after him in ALttP, or is it just a username?

Hey yeah, you just said what I was thinking.

And know ZeldaGamer21, I am not the real Chris Houlihan, good for you for catching that.

*jokes* Are you really the 21st person to play Zelda?

I always thought that Ganon was tossed in a void some where in the end of the game. I thought it didn't make sense the Link goes back in time and for Hyrule to be all safe again. So I believe because of Ganon being tossed in a void his whole existence was undone making Hyrule unable to be go through what he was planning and a peaceful place. Pretty wierd time plots in Zelda games.

Theres a million and one explanations as to what could have happened. We only see a 5minute cut scene afterall. There are many theories, but the main theories revolve araound one of the following ideas:

1) Link is sent physically back in time (Where abouts in time is also debatable as well as what happens to Ganon(dorf)

Points where people link could have been sent back to:

-Where he first meets Zelda ever with Ganondorf outside the sacred realm, but Link warns the sages etc.

-After Ganondorf enters the sacred realm but before Link does. So sages can lock him into the Sacred realm

-The sacred realm has a different time paradox so Ganondorf remains trapped in the sacred realm, and only Hyrule gets sent back in time, not the whole universe.

2) When the master sword is drawn two worlds are created, OoT past (light world) OoT Future (Dark World) Now Link is returned to the light world, which zelda refers to as going back in time due to the 7 year difference, despite link not specifically time travelling.

Difference in theories:

-The OoT future becomes the Dark World and this is actually where Ganondorf is locked. This would also explain the locking of time travel. So the whole of hyrule is returned to the light world and in their past states.

-OoT future is one timeline and OoT past is another, With Everyone being sent back to their past (Oot past) but their state also being left in the future, though no longer a dark world. This would be the famous (and wrong lol ) split timeline theory.

Don't bite my head off if ive forgotten something and these are only basic outlines of theories, so for more details visit one of the timeline threads. But these are the ideas of OoT's ending that most toy with.

-LoZ Historian and Silver Arrows theory (Paradox timeline). Too complicated to ezplain in a few lines, but vbisit the General timeline questions thread (General Zelda) or Twilight Timeline theories (Future Zelda). here the theory is that MM mask is intertwined alomost with the 7 years seperating the two hyrule states. But as i said too complicated for a few lines.

I just think Link went back in the time just as Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm, Link closed the door on him and therefore sealed Ganondorf in there.

hold up so.. how does Link get to Termina cuz at the beginning of MM he's rideing Epona ??

Originally Posted by Duku Dude

hold up so.. how does Link get to Termina cuz at the beginning of MM he's rideing Epona ??

I don't quite understand what your saying. Do you mean how ocme child link is riding epona? If so, MM takes place months after OoT's ending, so that is plently of time to tame and befriend a horse.

I don't quite understand what your saying. Do you mean how ocme child link is riding epona? If so, MM takes place months after OoT's ending, so that is plently of time to tame and befriend a horse.

Of course Link stays in Hyrule for a while after the end of OoT. He isn't going to go looking for Navi straight away. He knew that he needed a horse if he was to do his search for Navi more efficiantly.

oh was Navi with him when Link first met Skull Kid ? or did she stay in Hyrule/Forest ?

Navi was with Link when he first met the Skullkids in the Lost Woods, but wasn't with him when he met the Skullkid in MM who is wearing Majora's Mask and two fairies with him called Tatyl and Tael. At the end of OoT, when you return the Master Sword to the Pedestal of Time, you watch Navi fly out the window in the Temple of Time. So Navi is not with you in MM, as Link is looking for Navi when the Skullkid wearing Majora's Mask attacks him.

We know that "Past" Hyrule and "Future" Hyrule both exist after Ocarina of Time.

In Super Smash Bros. Melee, we see Young Link as he was immediately after "The Ocarina of Time." Notice that he has the HookShot (Adult Link has the Longshot, although it is still called the Hookshot,) the Fairy Bow, Bombs (no surprise there,) and the Zora Boomerang (still no surprise there.) His Kokiri sword wasn't re-forged (like it was in Majora's Mask,) and still has the Deku Shield (no Hero Shield here, folks. )

The easiest way (Scientists do this all the time, people.) to answer all of the ensuing questions dealing with the "Time Paradox," as it's called, is to see it this way...

Link was sent back in time right in front of an open Door of Time. This means that Ganon has acquired the Triforce of Power. Notice also that he goes back to Zelda inside her courtyard. That means that Zelda probably sent herself back in time as well. This has to happen in order for her to give Link the Ocarina again. This means that Zelda has the ability to send herself back and forth through time (forced, of course, to return to her childhood form.) As a result, she can also send others back and forth through time as well (this is how Link can get Epona without disrupting the time/space continuum.) Now, since Zelda can easily get back to the future (where she belongs,) she won't disrupt it. However, since Link can't travel through time anymore, Zelda gives him the Ocarina of Time and, in a sense, banishes him from Hyrule, so that he doesn't do anything that might get in the way of himself later. (Banishing isn't the right word in mind, but you get the idea.) Since the Lost Woods technically aren't part of Hyrule, he goes there searching for Navi.

We know that the "Future" remains intact because we see everybody celebrating Ganon's defeat at the Lon Lon Ranch. (Here's a trick question: Why would Hyrule be celebrating Ganon's defeat if Ganon were still in charge? The answer: They're suicidal. ) We then see the five "living" Sages (Rauru was reincarnated as an owl, and Zelda went back in time to give Link the Ocarina.) watching the sunrise on the newly Freed Hyrule. We know that they weren't sent back because Ruto's still grown up:embrsd: ! (Honestly, like you guys wouldn't know. )

I Hope I didn't blow anyone's mind with this, I just wanted to set a few things (Logically) straight.