Calendar Awards Members List FAQ
Notices

Reply
$ LinkBack Thread Tools
 
  #1   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 10:22 AM
Goron
Join Date: Jul 2004
View Posts: 110
why didn't the korkiris turn adults

why didn't the korkiris turn into adults when they left the forest at the end of oot (in lon lon ranch) please do tell
__________________

adopted by spacemanspiff
Reply With Quote
  #2   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 10:58 AM
sea sea is offline
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toronto
View Posts: 17,297
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

The game never said anything about them becoming adults when they left the Kokiri Forest. The Kokiri are not human, but a magical race guarded by the Deku Tree which do age (or at least past a certain point). It was said that the Kokiri would die if they left the Lost Woods, but certainly not become adults. They would most likely die because the rest of Hyrule is an unfamiliar place, and with all the monsters in Hyrule Field, it is expected that a child would not be able to survive long outside the Forest.

There's also the thing about the Kokiri becoming Skull Children if they got lost in the Lost Woods, but I believe that applies to everyone, not just the Kokiri.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #3   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Goron
Join Date: Jul 2004
View Posts: 110
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

all korkiris turn into skull kids
humans turn into stalfos
and why didn't they die while in lon lon ranch
__________________

adopted by spacemanspiff
Reply With Quote
  #4   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:17 AM
ZU fighting game guru.
Send a message via AIM to Tigerboi
Join Date: Jul 2004
View Posts: 3,620
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

Theory: All Korkiri's are hylians.

I thought about the great Deku tree saying "if you leave the forest you'll die" or something. Now, I think anyone who lives in korkiri forest is granted immortality as long as they're in the forest.

Now, everyone was trying to tell link that he would die if he left the forest, but they never said anything about him dropping into a heap as soo n as he left. By dying if you leave the forest, I'm guessing that if you leave the forest, you'll EVENTUALLY die as you'll start to age normally. My reason for believing that the Korkiri's are even there, is becuase they're orphans just like Link. Perhaps it was a place that children were taken when there was no place else for them to go that was guranteed to be a safe place for them. (or at least the people who took them there thought so.)


Link was the only one to age becuase he was the only one who left the forest.

My reasoning for thi theory? I support SariaXLink. -.-;;
__________________
Street fighter > smash
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #5   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:18 AM
Goron
Join Date: Jul 2004
View Posts: 110
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

you have a point
__________________

adopted by spacemanspiff
Reply With Quote
  #6   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:18 AM
I'll be watching you
Send a message via AIM to BigGoronSword Send a message via MSN to BigGoronSword Send a message via Yahoo to BigGoronSword
Phantom Hourglass Code: 322236963024 Metroid Prime: Hunters Code: 051673572915

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Boston
View Posts: 8,550
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon master
all korkiris turn into skull kids
humans turn into stalfos
and why didn't they die while in lon lon ranch
Don't forget that humans can also turn into Gibdos(MM)....(ok back on subject)

Let me repeat a sentence Sear just said (pay attention to the bold):
Quote:
Originally Posted by SearanoX
It was said that the Kokiri would die if they left the Lost Woods, but certainly not become adults. They would most likely die because the rest of Hyrule is an unfamiliar place, and with all the monsters in Hyrule Field, it is expected that a child would not be able to survive long outside the Forest.
They were expected to die, but they surpassed the monsters. I bet with the aid of their fairies, Deku Sticks, Deku Sheilds, Deku Seeds, and Slingshots they could have easily gone to Lon Lon Ranch without much trouble at all. Please correct me if I'm wrong (it's been awhile) but, weren't the Kokiri at Lon Lon Ranch durring the afternoon, where there aren't any Stal-kids to worry about? If not, then it is possible that the Kokiri left durring the morning and arrived at Lon Lon in the evening just before the Stal children will emerge from their earthly graves.

-BGS
__________________

[Credit for my Siggy & Avy goes to my mentor, Lioness]

[ZU Psychologist][ZU Men's Advice][ZU Chatroom][ZeldaWiki]
[Forum Mods][Rules][Newbie Guide]
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #7   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:19 AM
The Running Free.
Send a message via AIM to Necco Send a message via MSN to Necco
Wii Code: 2531 0710 8305 6905 SSBB Code: 1332-8309-4001 Animal Crossing DS Code:  5455-2238-9967
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: House Atlantic
View Posts: 2,922
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

i always thought they could only go out into the world when the deku tree said they could(like link) and they werent out there for a long enough time to grow old and die. There are probably magic spells cassed on the forest to prevent death but if they leave the forest they will die because of old age thanks to leaving the spell.
__________________


OR IS IT? SED GANONDORF WHO WAS HIDING........
Reply With Quote
  #8   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:20 AM
Goron
Join Date: Jul 2004
View Posts: 110
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

i argree with your theory
__________________

adopted by spacemanspiff
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #9   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 11:33 AM
Lady of Din
Send a message via AIM to Lioness Send a message via MSN to Lioness Send a message via Skype™ to Lioness
Wii Code: 4759-2454-8968-4396 SSBB Code: 2836-1662-0229 Mario Kart DS Code:  5026-4375-8568 Metroid Prime: Hunters Code: 5026-4375-9445 Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Code:  3866-9688-3719 Animal Crossing DS Code:  1203-9226-1895 (Darkwood)

Join Date: Mar 2003
View Posts: 9,565
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

Quote:
i argree with your theory
Quote:
you have a point
dear dragon master, please let me remind you that posts like that, only agreeing with another person, is, in fact, considered spam here at ZU Forums. Please, do not post such posts again, as they add nothing to the discussion.
__________________


[Clan FAQ][Rules][Adoption Central]
[Newbie Guide][BA Guide][DeviantART Link]
Support it.
Reply With Quote
  #10   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 12:37 PM
Zora Warrior
Send a message via AIM to randomgerudo
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dreaming of Kazan's body.
View Posts: 380
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

My theory: Imagine if you were a Kokiri that was 300 years old. You were told not to leave the forest, but one day your curiousity got the best of you and you left. You started to age rapidly until you reached 300 years old. By this time you would be a skeleton. Maybe they said not to leave the forest, because if they were that old, then they wouldn't live long out in Hyrule Field. Maybe because the Deku Tree's magic can't hold out past the forest.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #11   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 02:20 PM
I'll be watching you
Send a message via AIM to BigGoronSword Send a message via MSN to BigGoronSword Send a message via Yahoo to BigGoronSword
Phantom Hourglass Code: 322236963024 Metroid Prime: Hunters Code: 051673572915

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Boston
View Posts: 8,550
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

Quote:
Originally Posted by randomgerudo
My theory: Imagine if you were a Kokiri that was 300 years old. You were told not to leave the forest, but one day your curiousity got the best of you and you left. You started to age rapidly until you reached 300 years old. By this time you would be a skeleton. Maybe they said not to leave the forest, because if they were that old, then they wouldn't live long out in Hyrule Field. Maybe because the Deku Tree's magic can't hold out past the forest.
hmm....and then you get stal-children! That makes perfect sence (and I like your theory)!

-BGS
__________________

[Credit for my Siggy & Avy goes to my mentor, Lioness]

[ZU Psychologist][ZU Men's Advice][ZU Chatroom][ZeldaWiki]
[Forum Mods][Rules][Newbie Guide]
Reply With Quote
  #12   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 02:25 PM
Deku Scrub
Join Date: Aug 2004
View Posts: 27
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

maybe mido told the kokiri that if they left they would die so it made them all want to stay, he knew if they left he couldn't boss them around anymore
__________________
Bend your arms to look like wings
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #13   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 02:41 PM
Goron
Send a message via AIM to ADMore
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: in a house, in St. Louis
View Posts: 154
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

I don't think mido was that power hungry. Anyway, I thought that the duku tree protected all of the forest with his magic, but that outside of that sanctuary was too corrupt for him to influence. Thus if you stay where he protects, no harm at all will come to you.
__________________
Sig and avy made by Manga Oni-Link (thanks)
Runescape ftw?!!
Reply With Quote
  #14   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 03:36 PM
Ram the Blade Ship.
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Vermont
View Posts: 2,020
In the vast deep forest of Hyrule.....

There is magic at work in the Kokiri Forest and Lost Woods, which the game makes very clear.

Farore gave life to the world of Hyrule, but She wanted to make sure that the forest would endure and not be developed by other races. So She placed a curse over the forest, which would prevent outsiders from destroying it, and She created the Great Deku Tree, the guardian spirit of the forest. The Tree would give life to the Kokiri, who would be the peaceful children of the forest. Reaches of the woods beyond the Tree's influence would be home to cursed creatures that have fallen under the curse (Stalfos, Mad Scrubs, Deku Babas, Skull Kids, Poes, Wolfos).

Kokiri who leave the forest are said to die. The Great Deku Tree is the father of the Kokiri and the guardian of the forest. He is responsible for giving them life and keeping them safe.
Quote:
From the official OoT guidebook:
Under evil influence, seeds that fell far from the Tree blosomed not into colorful flowers but into menancing tendrils. They remained dormant until a Kokiri came too close. Then their wicked bloom wildly thrashed about, hoping to feast on the hapless intruder.
A Kokiri who wanders too far from the Tree will find monsters like this, which is one reason the Tree wishes for them to remain near him in the forest. The Kokiri are children, and being children they are vulnerable.

Seven years after the Tree dies, the Kokiri no longer have a guardian, and the forest is infested with monsters, trapping the Kokiri in their homes. When the Great Deku Tree sprout appears, order is restored. So the nearer the children are to the Tree, the safer they are.

The Kokiri are children of the Deku Tree and spirits of the forest. Yes, spirits, because in the Wind Waker they take on a different form. They are not Hylian lost boys who remain children eternally in the Never Never Land of the forest, with Tinkerbells flying around their heads.

If they wander too far from the forest, they will not grow into normal adults, or age rapidly and die. But if they leave the forest, their spirits will be detatched and they will probably fade. The children are able to visit the ranch briefly without danger, but if they remain there for days they might lose their energy similar to humans that do not eat or drink water for days. In this case, the children will die.

The outsiders who enter the Forest are not born under the protection of the Tree, so they gradually lose their humanity and become Stalfos. There is a temple deep in the forest that houses many Stalfos and ghosts. The ghosts do have human names, like Amy or Meg. My belief is that those who lose their souls in the forest eventually are drawn to the Temple by the spirits of the forest. There they remain.

Ganondorf has some power that allowed him to overcome the forest curse when he entered the forest to doom the Tree, and later to send Moblins there that were also impervious to the curse. Perhaps he entered the forest a second time, and made a duplicate of himself which he did not protect from the forest curse. The duplicate lost his soul and became the monster that is Phantom Ganon. Ganondorf then used his power to lure the Forest Sage to the Temple, where the evil spirits would trap her. Since Ganondorf has power to overcome the curse of Farore, that may suggest something about his origin.

Link's mother was a Hylian who entered the forest, and Link was her Hylian child. She was most likely mortally wounded in the war, far from home. She did not want her child to die shortly after her, so she entered the Forbidden Forest and pleaded with the Tree for protection. The Tree sensed that Link was a child of destiny, so he agreed to protect him and raise him as a Kokiri. The mother died very shortly afterwards, so the forest's curse did not reach her in time.

The Kokiri are born as infants, and when they are about ten years old they have fully matured. The Kokiri did not notice anything strange about Link (aside from the lack of a fairy) because he left before he broke this pattern. Saria however, sensed something different about him, and she knew he would leave the forest someday.

The fairies probably play some role beyond guarding their Kokiri. Perhaps they give the Kokiri spirit human shape, which explains why Link does not need his own fairy until he needs a guide. It also could explain why the spirits appear a Koroks in the Wind Waker, in which they have no guardian fairies.

So there's a compilation of most of my theories regarding the Forest of Hyrule. Not all of them can be backed by in-game evidence, or evidence from the NP guide (which Mr. Miyamoto worked on, so it is a reliable source of Zelda info), but I have given a lot of thought to these theories, even if most are just fanfiction. Please tell me what you think of them.
__________________

New thread and new article! Click on the banner to see it.
Deku Link vs. Majora
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #15   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 04:59 PM
goes to the mayor
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: chicago
View Posts: 5,372
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

wow hylian Dan, i think youv'e really outdone yourself this time, your theories are awesome, and make complete sense. i really think that theres no need for further discussion cuz youve said it all. great job dude, awesome post, but theres only one this the im a bit skeptical about,if the kokiri are spirits, then couldn't they take any form they want to without the aid ofa fairy?
__________________
meh... Whatever
Commit fellatio speedy quadraped!
Zelda I love you so much, don't deny me loving you or else I'll give you ADD and out of wed-lock pregnancy
98% of the teen population is cool, 2% aren't

Last edited by vacumgod; 08-09-2004 at 10:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16   [ ]
Old 08-09-2004, 10:21 PM
ZU fighting game guru.
Send a message via AIM to Tigerboi
Join Date: Jul 2004
View Posts: 3,620
Re: why didn't the korkiris turn adults

Another reason for my theory is becuase the koroks were able to leave forest haven in WW.
__________________
Street fighter > smash
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #17   [ ]
Old 08-10-2004, 09:43 AM
Say hello to my little friend