ZU's Favourite Albums: Submissions and Voting

Originally Posted by Bradapalooza

Honestly, I'm not ****ing retarded, I know Tchaikovsky didn't walk into a studio and play the damn thing himself.

I don't know why, but this made me laugh so hard XDDDD

Originally Posted by Andy

They obviously weren't by Tchaikovsky, then. Perhaps you should change your entry to the title of the disc/a description and the real artist.

Tchaikovsky never put together a set of tracks that went together and were to be played together and were located in a collective set, hence he never recorded an album. Music was just not that way back then.

Now if there were some variety of disc you had that was an arrangement of several of his songs played by some phil harmonic or pianist or whatever, go ahead and list that, but ****ing "1812 Overture- Tchaikovsky" looks like something a ****ing retard would put.

Dude. calm the eff down and quit it with the rude, elitist attitude. you're borderline flaming this kid.
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It's not his fault or tchaikovsky's fault that he wasn't alive when music recording was invented. It's the MUSIC, the actual composition of the music that lives on, not the exact recording. I mean, if some band took it and re-arranged it dramatically, then you'd specify that, but if a symphony is playing the music and instruments as tchaikovsky wrote it, that's all that matters. You're splitting hairs.

I mean, hell if you wanted to get picky about what constitutes and "album" then we shouldn't allow greatest hits albums, because those aren't actual albums.

and I re-itterate: chill.

Originally Posted by Margar

Dude. calm the eff down and quit it with the rude, elitist attitude. you're borderline flaming this kid.

I will now say the same to you as well as "big deal get over it."

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It's not his fault or tchaikovsky's fault that he wasn't alive when music recording was invented. It's the MUSIC, the actual composition of the music that lives on, not the exact recording.

This is obvious because if the actual music didn't live on, nobody would know the name Tchaikovsky or of that famous song he wrote about the russian victory over napoleon. The fact that it lives on is apparently obvious and I never said anything to the contrary.

I mean, if some band took it and re-arranged it dramatically, then you'd specify that, but if a symphony is playing the music and instruments as tchaikovsky wrote it, that's all that matters. You're splitting hairs.

He did not specify a thing. For all we know it could be a hip-hop album with no relation.

I mean, hell if you wanted to get picky about what constitutes and "album" then we shouldn't allow greatest hits albums, because those aren't actual albums.

and I re-itterate: chill.

Get over it.

Here's the issue. There is, as far as I can tell, no album out there called 1812 Overture (or, if you want to be technical, The Year 1812, Festival overture in E flat major) by an artist named Tchaikovsky. Thus, it is kind of hard to include it as an album if it doesn't really exist.

If you know that there is a version of it being performed by a particular orchestra and/or with a particular conductor that has been released, then that would count. But on its own, I just can't figure out how to fit it in with the other albums being submitted.

1. Make Yourself - Incubus
2. Audioslave - Audioslave
3. Superunknown - Soundgarden
4. Out Of Exile - Audioslave
5. Graceland - Paul Simon
6. Warning - Green Day
7. S.C.I.E.N.C.E. - Incubus
8. Light Grenades - Incubus
9. American Idiot - Green Day
10. Dookie - Green Day
11. Morning View - Incubus
12. Thirteenth Step - A Perfect Circle
13. Lateralus - Tool
14. 21st Century Breakdown - Green Day
15. Mer De Noms A Perfect Circle

1. Teddy Geiger - Underage Thinking
2. Portugal. The Man - Waiter: "You Vultures!"
3. Ludo - Ludo
4. You, Me, and Everybody We Know - So Young, So Insane
5. Fall Out Boy - Take This To You Grave
6. Weezer - Weezer (The Blue Album)
7. Boys Like Girls - Boys Like Girls
8. Panic at the Disco - Pretty. Odd.
9. Forgive Durden - Razia's Shadow: A Musical
10. As Tall As Lions - As Tall As Lions
11. We Are Scientists - With Love and Squalor
12. Motion City Soundtrack - I Am The Movie
13. Flight of the Conchords - Folk The World Tour
14. The Cab - Whisper War
15. Queen - Sheer Heart Attack

Tentative list.

Originally Posted by Cala

1. Make Yourself - Incubus
2. Audioslave - Audioslave
3. Superunknown - Soundgarden
4. Out Of Exile - Audioslave
5. Graceland - Paul Simon
6. Warning - Green Day
7. S.C.I.E.N.C.E. - Incubus
8. Light Grenades - Incubus
9. American Idiot - Green Day
10. Dookie - Green Day
11. Morning View - Incubus
12. Thirteenth Step - A Perfect Circle
13. Lateralus - Tool
14. 21st Century Breakdown - Green Day
15. Mer De Noms A Perfect Circle

Originally Posted by Chari

...I'm not the only one who likes this album. FINALLY!

Here's my top 15:

1. Razia's Shadow: A Musical by Forgive Durden
2. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles
3. The Open Door by Evanescence
4. Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge by My Chemical Romance
5. Hot Mess by Cobra Starship
6. Santi by The Academy Is...
7. Highway to Hell by AC/DC
8. We Are Not Alone by Breaking Benjamin
9. City of Evil by Avenged Sevenfold
10. Abbey Road by The Beatles
11. Meteora by Linkin Park
12. Infinity on High by Fall Out Boy
13. Dookie by Green Day
14. Artwork by The Used
15. Come What(ever) May by Stone Sour

Originally Posted by Alex

1. Superunknown - Soundgarden
2. American Idiot - Green Day
3. Make Yourself - Incubus
Morning View - Incubus
Down on the Upside - Soundgarden
Ten - Pearl Jam
Light Grenades - Incubus
Warning - Green Day
Nimrod - Green Day
Lateralus - Tool
Aenima - Tool
10,000 Days - Tool
S.C.I.E.N.C.E. - Incubus
Dookie - Green Day
21st Century Breakdown - Green Day
Audioslave - Audioslave
Out of Exile - Audioslave
Waking the Fallen - Avenged Sevenfold
City of Evil - Avenged Sevenfold
Master of Puppets - Metallica

I'm down to that. Going to be tough getting it down to just those 15... never mind ordering.

ALTERNATIVE ROCK RADIOOOOOO

That would be Alex and Cala for sure.

Originally Posted by nolan

Here's the issue. There is, as far as I can tell, no album out there called 1812 Overture (or, if you want to be technical, The Year 1812, Festival overture in E flat major) by an artist named Tchaikovsky. Thus, it is kind of hard to include it as an album if it doesn't really exist.

If you know that there is a version of it being performed by a particular orchestra and/or with a particular conductor that has been released, then that would count. But on its own, I just can't figure out how to fit it in with the other albums being submitted.

If it's being submitted strictly for the original piece, classical musics should be submitted here by opus numbers, as that was the equivalent term to what we now call albums and EP's.

Both albums and EP's correlate to what were once called opuses.

However this doesn't really work before the classical era and you have to rely on the book title, for example "The Well Tempered Klavier" would be akin to what is now an album, since it was written as a collective whole.

Keep in mind though that sheet music was merely a very specific guide, not an absolute finished product as our CD's are today. The finished product was the composer sitting at the keyboard and performing. Thus there are many finished products that are lost to time forever.

However if it is a contemporary recording of a classical piece and is being submitted for the great quality of that particular interpretation--for example "inspired by bach" is an album by the artist Yo-Yo Ma of the bach Cello suites for which there is no opus number, only historical BMV numerical values later added in by historians for categorizing purposes--then the album title on the CD cover suffices along with the artist name (and in the case of multiple recordings of the same piece--ie Glenn Gould's Goldberg Variations--the year should be specified as well).

Clear?

maybe?

Originally Posted by Ignotus

Panic at the Disco - Pretty. Odd.

I've tried to like that album and I just can't. A fever you can't sweat out is so much better.

Originally Posted by Andy

That would be Alex and Cala for sure.

CLASSIC ROCK RADIOOOOOO.

Oh talking about Andy? Rite, rite.

Originally Posted by Apollo

I've tried to like that album and I just can't. A fever you can't sweat out is so much better.

I think it's kind of unfair to say that, as both of those albums have really different sounds. Both sound fine though. I just prefer the upbeat stuff from their second release more, I guess.

Originally Posted by Ignotus

I think it's kind of unfair to say that, as both of those albums have really different sounds. Both sound fine though. I just prefer the upbeat stuff from their second release more, I guess.

Well said. I agree with you; they're both great albums, but I dig the second one the most.

Surferrosa- The Pixies.

Castaways and Cutouts- The Decemberists.

The Shepard's Dog- Iron and Wine.

Music from Big Pink- The Band.

Daydream Nation or Dirty- Sonic Youth. I can't choose between the two.

Trimuph for a Man - Mew

Give Up- The Postal Service

The Crane Wife - The Decenmberists

Abby Road - The Beatles

Slanted and Enchanted - Pavement

Funeral - The Arcade Fire

Loveless - My Bloody Valentine

The Queen is Dead - The Smiths

Urban Hymns - The Verve

In the Aeroplane Over The Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel.

Came to this conclusion after a week of relistening to my music library.

Originally Posted by Erasmus

If it's being submitted strictly for the original piece, classical musics should be submitted here by opus numbers, as that was the equivalent term to what we now call albums and EP's.

Both albums and EP's correlate to what were once called opuses.

However this doesn't really work before the classical era and you have to rely on the book title, for example "The Well Tempered Klavier" would be akin to what is now an album, since it was written as a collective whole.

Keep in mind though that sheet music was merely a very specific guide, not an absolute finished product as our CD's are today. The finished product was the composer sitting at the keyboard and performing. Thus there are many finished products that are lost to time forever.

However if it is a contemporary recording of a classical piece and is being submitted for the great quality of that particular interpretation--for example "inspired by bach" is an album by the artist Yo-Yo Ma of the bach Cello suites for which there is no opus number, only historical BMV numerical values later added in by historians for categorizing purposes--then the album title on the CD cover suffices along with the artist name (and in the case of multiple recordings of the same piece--ie Glenn Gould's Goldberg Variations--the year should be specified as well).

Clear?

maybe?

That fell on deaf ears, which is why I didn't bother explaining it.

Though Chopin and Beethoven's 27th Opus (they're different, not referring to a collaboration) were ****ing phenomenal.

Originally Posted by Alex

CLASSIC ROCK RADIOOOOOO.

Oh talking about Andy? Rite, rite.

Grew out of that a year ago, bro.

Originally Posted by Andy

That fell on deaf ears, which is why I didn't bother explaining it.

Though Chopin and Beethoven's 27th Opus (they're different, not referring to a collaboration) were ****ing phenomenal.

heh, well either you give people too little credit or I give them too much then. :3

I'm actually not very familiar with either opuses of the number 27.

What medium of expression is the Beethoven?

I would assume that the Chopin is solo Piano.

Originally Posted by Erasmus

If it's being submitted strictly for the original piece, classical musics should be submitted here by opus numbers, as that was the equivalent term to what we now call albums and EP's.
...

Uhhhh....kay.

Well I tried.

*shrugs*

An Opus is a collection of movements arranged by someone. It's similar to an album I guess, that's how they recorded and released music back after the classical era. It's usually three or more "songs," which are just, as Erasmus said, a specific guide to how to play music.

We have a lot of interpretations of these guides floating around in digital form.

Don't worry, I get it. I suppose that if one would want to submit a classical piece by the original composer and whatnot, that'd be the way to do it.

Originally Posted by nolan

If you know that there is a version of it being performed by a particular orchestra and/or with a particular conductor that has been released, then that would count. But on its own, I just can't figure out how to fit it in with the other albums being submitted.

so basically, if he goes and gets his CD, finds out what orchestra and conductor performed the recording he has, and puts THAT into his list, then it's perfectly fine?

What then would happen if someone else had tchaicovsky's 1812overture on their list, but performed by a different orchestra? We'd count those as two totally different albums? That's silly. it's the SAME MUSIC. unless the style deviates from the original style tchaikovsky composed, there's no reason to be so nitpicky. The point of this is to find out what MUSIC a person likes best, and not which collection of instrumentalists' version of a classical piece they like best.

Also- no one addressed the point that if you want to be picky about what constitutes and "album" then we would have to throw out compilation albums and greatest hits CD's.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound so combative, but the restrictive attitude I'm seeing is not in the spirit of why we started to compile this list.