Batman 3

Originally Posted by William die Wunderbar

I think Harley Quinn has a better back story then Catwoman. There has been enough movies with Catwoman. Harley Quinn has never made a live action appearance. She has a lot more fans, and her appearance could leave a great cliff hanger at the end of the movie.

In my opinion, HQ is just too new when it comes to Batman's rouges of villains. Plus it will be pretty hard for Nolan to introduce HQ without having an adequit actor to play as Joker. As for Catwoman, she's had the history with the Bats. She's one of the few synonymous well known DC female characters, and from all of them (wonder woman, batgirl, lois lane, etc...) HQ is deffinentally the rookie of the group. Now I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see her in a future movie, all I'm saying is we should give recognition to those whom have been a part of the Batman folklore a little longer.

But as someone has already stated in this thread, a producer said that they are looking for a not so well known villain for the next film, and let's face it, Catwoman, Harley Quinn, and even the Riddler are too popular to be considered.

-BGS

PS: I would like to see Nolan's take on Catwoman and the Riddler to say "There! That's how it's supposed to be done Halle Berry & Jim Carrey."

What about Killer Croc? He'd be an interesting character to be added.

Originally Posted by William die Wunderbar

What about Killer Croc? He'd be an interesting character to be added.

I actually was thinking about him. I loved him in Arkham Asylum. I just wonder how far that pushes the realism for Nolan's Gotham.

Originally Posted by raunm

I actually was thinking about him. I loved him in Arkham Asylum. I just wonder how far that pushes the realism for Nolan's Gotham.

Old school Croc could totaly be done. It wasn't until recently that he was actually turned into a giant crodile. But he wasn't really a great vilain before that. It's a hard call.

I went back and read up on Batman villains because I was reading into what Mattocks said about Croc originally not being a giant crocodile, and found Tally Man. While maybe not strong enough to be a lead villain, I think it'd be interesting to see the mobsters use Tally Man kind of like the Scarecrow as used in the first film.

Was he the serial killer who kept a tally of his victims in scars on his body?

Originally Posted by Mattocks

Was he the serial who kept a tally of his victims in scars on his body?

No that was umm, crap I have to look it up. Yeah that was Zsasz. Tally Man was the one who's mom was beaten because she couldn't pay the mob their money. And so he became the Tally Man and went around collecting tallies, or basically killing people.

Never heard of him, so I looked him up. He seems a littel gimmicky, but the second tally man seems a little more usable. However I also think Zsasz would be a good kind of intro villain. Not a main one though.

Zsasz has already been used in Batman Begins...



...so it wouldn't be unreasonable to have him return. Same with Joker or Scarecrow. Hell, I'd be all in favour of Two-Face surviving, but unfortunately Chris Nolan doesn't agree.

Characters in line with the realism of the current movies:
Zsasz
Scarecrow
Joker
Two-Face
Riddler
Catwoman
Penguin
Ventriloquist/Scarface
Rupert Thorne
Hugo Strange
Hush
Bane (steroids are real and I imagine they could easily hire someone who looks the part)
The Holiday Killer
Clock King (though technically he's a Green Arrow villain)
Possibly the Mad Hatter

2 things I wanna see in a new Batman movie are Robin and Batgirl. As for villains, maybe Freeze or Ivy; to do those 4 justice after that atrocity "Batman and Robin".

Originally Posted by p0wnn00b

2 things I wanna see in a new Batman movie are Robin and Batgirl. As for villains, maybe Freeze or Ivy; to do those 4 justice after that atrocity "Batman and Robin".

Nolan has said that since his movies portray an early Batman, Robin's still in diapers as far as he's concerned. Jim Gordon's daughter is also kinda young to be fighting crime. Freeze and Ivy would be nigh impossible to do in the realism that the franchise currently has.

Originally Posted by Evilsbane

Nolan has said that since his movies portray an early Batman, Robin's still in diapers as far as he's concerned. Jim Gordon's daughter is also kinda young to be fighting crime. Freeze and Ivy would be nigh impossible to do in the realism that the franchise currently has.

Maybe they could jump a few years so that way Dick and Barbara are old enough to fit crime?

Wasn't Barbara retconned into being Gordon's niece, not daughter, though? She could still be Batgirl.

I would like to see Harley Quinn show up. And I think Scarecrow needs another chance of redemption. He was a letdown in Begins, and a joke in The Dark Knight.

Originally Posted by Misty

Wasn't Barbara retconned into being Gordon's niece, not daughter, though? She could still be Batgirl.

When did that happen?

After Crisis on Infinite Earths, she was retconned as Jim Gordon's niece.

Originally Posted by p0wnn00b

Maybe they could jump a few years so that way Dick and Barbara are old enough to fit crime?

Come on, that's a little wishful thinking now isn't it? Nolan wants to focus around a younger "Year One" Batman. I honestly don't think Batman is such a 2D character that he needs to rely on other side kicks to make him more interesting. If you sorta want to think of it this way, Nolan is focusing on Batman's first partners in crime fighting: Alfred Pennyworth, Lucious Fox, and Commisioner Gordon. I believe there was a female doctor that also helped out Batman for his serious wounds, but her name escapes me at the moment. Plus look at Superman, they've made 6+ movies staring him and only recently did they introduce a possible Superboy for future movies.

Originally Posted by Misty

After Crisis on Infinite Earths, she was retconned as Jim Gordon's niece.

Oh for a second there I thought you were referencing that in Batman & Robin that they made Barbara Alfred's niece since Commisioner Gordon wasn't a main character in the earlier films. But in that case, I think it would do the film justice by still having her be Gordon's daughter because thats what the majority of people know her as (not everybody follows recent comics. That would be like having Peter Parker never going to marry MJ because of the events of May Day

Originally Posted by Evilsbane

Characters in line with the realism of the current movies:

I was just thinking...how about Maxie Zues? For those of you who don't know he's a mob boss/business man who has a strong affinity for greek mythology, and he thinks he's the greek god Zues. Now of course Nolan's Zues wouldn't have an electricity canon to destroy Gotham with, but he could have the affinity to use electric-based weapons (like variations of deadly tasers such as "electric brass knuckles") and power outages would happen wherever his goons strike next. Have a villain that also lives a double life

-BGS

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

Come on, that's a little wishful thinking now isn't it? Nolan wants to focus around a younger "Year One" Batman. I honestly don't think Batman is such a 2D character that he needs to rely on other side kicks to make him more interesting. If you sorta want to think of it this way, Nolan is focusing on Batman's first partners in crime fighting: Alfred Pennyworth, Lucious Fox, and Commisioner Gordon. I believe there was a female doctor that also helped out Batman for his serious wounds, but her name escapes me at the moment. Plus look at Superman, they've made 6+ movies staring him and only recently did they introduce a possible Superboy for future movies.


Oh for a second there I thought you were referencing that in Batman & Robin that they made Barbara Alfred's niece since Commisioner Gordon wasn't a main character in the earlier films. But in that case, I think it would do the film justice by still having her be Gordon's daughter because thats what the majority of people know her as (not everybody follows recent comics. That would be like having Peter Parker never going to marry MJ because of the events of May Day

I was just thinking...how about Maxie Zues? For those of you who don't know he's a mob boss/business man who has a strong affinity for greek mythology, and he thinks he's the greek god Zues. Now of course Nolan's Zues wouldn't have an electricity canon to destroy Gotham with, but he could have the affinity to use electric-based weapons (like variations of deadly tasers such as "electric brass knuckles") and power outages would happen wherever his goons strike next. Have a villain that also lives a double life

-BGS

Crisis on Infinite Earths was over 20 years ago. Not very recent, but it did change a lot of things. Also, the horrible event that retconned Peter Parker's marriage was called One More Day/Brand New Day. And Gordon was in the earlier films, he just wasn't very prominent.

I think Zeus is a little too obscure to use as a villain.

I'd like to see Catwoman, Penguin, Harley Quinn, Joker, or Killer Croc in the next movie.

Seems like The Riddler is the most popular choice for a villain in the next one. Johnny Depp could work, I think. I was just sitting here thinking of actors who could possibly do the role, and Michael C. Hall came to mind for some reason. He's definitely not the type you would think of when you think of The Riddler, but I bet he could do it. Call me crazy.



I also wouldn't mind seeing Catwoman in the next one. I like Kate Beckinsale quite a lot, and we know she looks good in a tight leather outfit. Not sure if she could do the character, though. Maybe.

I'm still a strong supporter of The Mad Hatter as well. He's got a lot of potential in the new film universe.

Also, if they consider introducing Vicky Vale, who do you think would be a good actress to play her?