Batman 3

Is it just me, or does the poster silhouette make the Riddler look like a pimp?

It's the cane. But really, the riddler is a pimp. Look at his hench-hoes.

Originally Posted by William die Wunderbar

Since Joker didn't die. What do you think about if they get another actor to do it? Joker definitely needs to be in more Batman movies. Especially Harley Quinn.

When it comes to the other Batman films they never needed to make a reference to the villains of the prior movies. Nolan did with Scarecrow simply because he wasn't caught at the end. In The Dark Knight, Joker was caught and we can assume that he's been brought to Arkham (yes, Joker is famous for breaking out, but we don't have enough time to do that in a 2 hour period when we need to build up the introduction of a new character). As for Harley Quinn, I like the fact that they originally introduced her into the cartoon and then moved onto the comics (sorta the same way with what they are doing wish "Cloe Sullivan" from Smallville) but she needs to be more well known before getting hit on the silver screen. Plus she is a bit of a Joker-clone...

Originally Posted by Carge

Well... I would like it if they had more villains from the comics in the next movie...

I think the Riddler will break the Joker (who knows who he will be played by?) out of jail, and bring some other villain with him... Probably not freezeman since they're trying to make this set of Batman movies more realistic.

And on this movie, the police will be another villain, whom HAS to pursue the Batman

I honestly don't think Joker will be involved at all. The most they'd have (probably) is just mention him like "Ok, Joker is in custody and is on his way towards Arkham". The way I see it, since Batman's good name of being the cause of all the caos in Gotham, he and Gordon (secretly) will have to work together in order to clear his name. If Riddler is involved, I wouldn't mind him being a world reknown detective (sort of like the popularity of "L" from Death Note) that works on obscure cases that needs his intelligence and knowhow of the criminal mind.

I can just imagine the studio (as a publicity stunt) to send out multiple txt messages of riddles to random people all over the U.S. (and to every country when the film will debut). That will get some people's attention.

Originally Posted by Mattocks

I would also like to see what Nolan would do with the more supernatural of Batman's enemies. Villains like Mr. Freeze, Clay Face, and Poison Ivy. They don't go with the more dark and realistic thing they seem to be aiming for, but we have to remember that they are part of Batman lore.

And one last person to leave you all with...Bane

In a Nolan-verse, I could imagine Mr. Freeze being the first Chirogenic Frozen man that's brought back to life (to cure him of some illness he had that we now have a cure for), but the major symptom is that he's always cold and the Chirogenic process also afflicted his brain in some ways. His wife is still Chirogenically Frozen because her illness still doesn't have a cure. He Mr. Freeze goes out on all lengths to raise (rob) money and equiptment to try and find a cure for his wife so they can live out the rest of their life together. No Freeze Ray Gun.

Pamela Isely is a hired assassin who'm specializes in poisons from hybrid plants she's concocted. She usually leaves a rose, as her "calling card" or maybe her victims could have a red or green rash on their body. No controlling plants since we have to make it as realistic as possible. However, I wouldn't find it too implausible if she had a large array of perfumes in order to attract certain men because of the pheromones they send out. No "controlling men whom seem to fall haplessly in love with her", but her perfume would just make people around her in a better mood (for example, with a whiff of her perfume and a beautiful smile, a security gaurd may consider her letting her pass by without a security pass or something). Scarecrow & Ra's Al Ghoul have already tried to intoxicate Gotham, so no need to repeat old tricks. Pamela could very well just try to assassinate people who may get in her way for her team of activists to try and save the world. Bruce Wayne could be on that list. As for how to beat her, a woman (not to be sexist, it's just how Hollywood usually plays it) would need to be introduced. In all fareness, Catwoman should be introduced well before Batgirl or Batwoman (a character I think that will never be on the Silver Screen), so Catwoman could very well help Batman, but escape as well (like in Batman Returns).

Clayface...Nolan would really have to turn him around. He's sorta the "Mystique" or "Chameleon" of the DC universe, so it's pretty hard to make him into something more realistic. The only thing I can think of is that he was a famous actor who gets into a car accident that leaves his face extremely damaged (think Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky). He gets surgery, but doesn't look the same. After awhile, his clayface always comes back, so more surgery, more new faces. How would Batman be involved? I don't know. Other than false identity, and robbing a few banks, I can't think of anything too extreme a "normal" clayface could do. Try to impersonate Bruce Wayne (similar to what Hush did)? That could get Batman angry...

-BGS

You know, if they WERE to get Mr. Freeze in the series, I'd totally see Tobin Bell playing him. He just has this hoarse and cold voice when he played Jigsaw. I can imagine him saying something like "I will crush you like a child's dream" or something.

I don't know if they would put the freezeman in the third movie, I mean this set of Batman movies are supposed to be WAY more realistic than Tim Burton's batman movies, so i REALLY don't think that freezeman would be in the next batman

Originally Posted by Carge

I don't know if they would put the freezeman in the third movie, I mean this set of Batman movies are supposed to be WAY more realistic than Tim Burton's batman movies, so i REALLY don't think that freezeman would be in the next batman

You mean Mr. Freeze. We're not talking about the Mega Man character.

Originally Posted by Ranma

You mean Mr. Freeze. We're not talking about the Mega Man character.

Sorry, I never really read the Batman comics, and it's been a long time since i saw the Tim Burton batman movies...

But still, it's true that they wouldn't use Mr. Freeze

Personally, I'd rather want to see Talia than Riddler.

BGS, wow. You have put a lot of thought into this. I like your ideas on Mr. Freeze and Ivy, it's pretty similar to their actual stories (more so Freeze). I'm not to sure I agree with you on clayfave though. I know Nolan is trying to go more realistic, but you can't mess with the story too much. I doubt Clayface would even be in the third film, but I do think he'd be able to wk with it. I mean Two Face is a bit unrealistic, but he made him work (even though he killed him off way too early)

Anyways, I think Nygma is the best choice. He fits the 'realisitc theme well, has great story potential, and is a great follow up to Joker. However I doubt there will be only one vilain. I can easily see this turning into somehting kind of like Spider-Man 3, with 2 villains. Except instead of them teaming up, I think it would be more of a turf war.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Deathstroke/slade is BADASS, but not iconic enough to be in a movie.

Not iconic enough? Slade is one of the major DC villains. We just never see him in say, major films because no one has thought to put him in one.

Everything is checked to be legit on IMDb? Because I've never heard that Christian Bale signed on or that the release would be 2011. Also, that Riddler poster is fake, I know the guy who made it on another forum.

Originally Posted by darkbeastganon

He. Guess i said that because i like the joker better than the Riddler.

Scarface? Thats the dummy that is carried around by a schizophrenic, right? I wonder who else? Black mask? Anarky (wait, the guy's a V for Vendetta ripoff)? Hugo Strange? Hush? The Great White Shark?

Bane would be kick ass, IMO.

The cover art showing him breaking batman's back almost in half was ****ing epic.

The first two batman movies made by Nolan were amazing. Can't wait for the third. It would have to be very deep and excellent to fit along with the first two.

By the way, the Riddler poster is fake, like everyone said.
The movie would be awesome if bane was in it.

Originally Posted by Mattocks

BGS, wow. You have put a lot of thought into this. I like your ideas on Mr. Freeze and Ivy, it's pretty similar to their actual stories (more so Freeze). I'm not to sure I agree with you on clayfave though. I know Nolan is trying to go more realistic, but you can't mess with the story too much. I doubt Clayface would even be in the third film, but I do think he'd be able to wk with it. I mean Two Face is a bit unrealistic, but he made him work (even though he killed him off way too early)

Anyways, I think Nygma is the best choice. He fits the 'realisitc theme well, has great story potential, and is a great follow up to Joker. However I doubt there will be only one vilain. I can easily see this turning into somehting kind of like Spider-Man 3, with 2 villains. Except instead of them teaming up, I think it would be more of a turf war.

Oh I have my highest doubts on Clayface too. I was showing three examples of how meta-human villains may be portraited in the Nolan-verse.
The way I see it, each movie has multiple bad guys. Theres the mob boss, the muscle, and the terrorist.

Batman Begins had Falcone (mob boss), Ra's Al Ghoul & his league of Assassins (muscle), and Scarecrow (terrorist)

Dark Knight had Maroni (mob boss), Two-Face (muscle), and Joker (terrorist).

I'd expect B3 has the same thing. Since Joker killed off many mob bosses it seems like a new person should fight his way up the ladder. Rupert Thorn or The Black Mask would be two good candidates. The muscle doesn't necessarilly have to be someone strong, but they could give Batman a tough time either way. Catwoman would be excellent. With Batman on the run, it wouldn't hurt to get some sort of assisstance. Catwoman won't put the public in danger, she just always looks out for #1. Riddler could be seen as the terrorist because he would go at whatever lengths to obtain Batman and figure out his identity.

-BGS

^you know, I think that would work rather well. Black mask as the mob boss orginaly hires Catwoman to steal something, and Riddler's trying to screw with gotham and get Batman. Then of course Catwoman would betray Mask and get away at the end.

Bleh... I don't want Catwoman in Nolan's movies. After that horrendous Catwoman movie a few years ago, I don't want to ever see that character in a movie again.

The riddler is of course an obvious choice, but I honestly think the Joker needs to return with a new actor. The Dark Knight completely left it open for the Joker and Batman to continue their struggle. There's so much more they could do with The Dark Knight's Joker.

Originally Posted by GoronWarrior25

Bleh... I don't want Catwoman in Nolan's movies. After that horrendous Catwoman movie a few years ago, I don't want to ever see that character in a movie again.

The riddler is of course an obvious choice, but I honestly think the Joker needs to return with a new actor. The Dark Knight completely left it open for the Joker and Batman to continue their struggle. There's so much more they could do with The Dark Knight's Joker.

Catwoman's actually a really interesting character, just because no one knew how to handle her properly in that horrendous film a few years back doesn't mean she wouldn't be good in Nolan's universe.

And Joker's done, I do not want to see another actor portray him. It just wouldn't be the same. Maybe have Harley Quinn come in and continue his work, but no more Joker.

Originally Posted by raunm

Catwoman's actually a really interesting character, just because no one knew how to handle her properly in that horrendous film a few years back doesn't mean she wouldn't be good in Nolan's universe.

And Joker's done, I do not want to see another actor portray him. It just wouldn't be the same. Maybe have Harley Quinn come in and continue his work, but no more Joker.

Well, I definatley would like to see Harley Quinn over Catwoman. I guess we just have to agree to disagree over the joker, though. I personally think his story needs to be continued throughout the series. He is batman's archnemesis, after all.

If they should add anything with the Joker it should be at the end of the movie with Harleen Quinzel walking into the Joker's cell in Arkham Asylum.

Originally Posted by GoronWarrior25

Well, I definatley would like to see Harley Quinn over Catwoman. I guess we just have to agree to disagree over the joker, though. I personally think his story needs to be continued throughout the series. He is batman's archnemesis, after all.

It's not that I wouldn't love to see that, but in Nolan's universe Bale and Ledger had this chemistry, and I don't want to see someone try to recreate that, or have someone come reinvent the Joker all over again.
Harley Quinzel being worked into the plot and walking to the Joker's cell at the end might actually be a ****ing great ending. It would leave Nolan open to having a resolution, but still ending on a similar note that Dark Knight ended, that implied the story would continue.