Best Batman?

Originally Posted by Swizzzle

No it's called irony. I-R-O-N-Y.

1. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
2. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
3. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See synonyms at wit1.
4. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs
5. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
6. Dramatic irony.
7. Socratic irony.

By continuing to call me a troll I'd say you're "posting provocatively with the sole intention of getting a rise out of people". Maybe you should stop being so hypocritical (do you understand that word? Or do we need to go look in the dictionary for that one too?؟).

People who are being ironic usually don't continue it for several pages. Unless they're trolling. Of course, if you feel you MUST break out the dictionary for every word you want to emphasise, I suggest we take this to PMs.

My reason for thinking they suck is because they are bad films. Batman Begins was incredibly slow paced and just boring, the writing was bland, the action was mediocre, it was just a bad film. The Dark Knight was just worse, it was a mess of a film, too self important, the joker thing went on too long and became ponderous, the two-face arc was underdeveloped and unresolved, the movie insists upon itself. There's no feeling to these movies, it's just "Hey we're rebooting Batman!!!1!!", "Look, some other guy is plying the joker! Oh and this one has the Scarecrow in it!", it's just self important tripe.

NOW you've put forward reasons and contributed constructively to the discussion. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Evilsbane

NOW you've put forward reasons and contributed constructively to the discussion. Thank you.

No I haven't, I've just responded to your constant pestering. The topic is who was the best batman, not reasons why TDK is a ****ty movie, and I'm pretty sure I gave my opinion on the best batman in my first post.

stupid me!
i picked Bale, but i think Keaton is actually the best.
Though clooney and West get bonus points for awesomeness(Bat credit card, and well everything by west)

Batman Begins / The Dark Knight are by far the best Batman stories in film
or television. They are simply terrific. But you have to consider the development
of the series from comics to the goofy 1960's to the Tim Burton films, to the
Batman Begins series, it's a progression. Batman Begins/Dark Knight stands
on the shoulders of giants.

Adam West was a very enjoyable Batman, he was funny and droll, but not
particularly cool or heroic.

Michael Keaton I liked a lot because he was actually a tormented character.
I liked how the series got a darker edge to it with the first 2 Tim Burton Batman
films, despite some questionable quality in some parts of Batman Returns.

Kevin Conory... who?

Val Kilmer... ridiculous

Gorge Clooney...ridiculous

Christian Bale has a great intensity that makes him a very believable character
wrapped in a corrupt fast-paced action world. He doesn't seem particularly
like Batman when he's out of costume though. Still, he makes the costumed
Batman a force to be reckoned with, and I hope to see him again.

I loved Dark Knight, but I hated the new Rachel, they should've kept
the actress from Batman Begins

Originally Posted by Cukeman

Kevin Conory... who?

He was the voice actor for Batman in Batman: TSA, Batman Beyond, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited. :3

Kevin Conroy is Batman's voice.

That is all.

Originally Posted by KeeSomething

Kevin Conroy is Batman's voice.

That is all.

I concur.

But in the movies. I would have to say Christian Bale. I like him the best. I think he took the character in a new direction and stuff. I know alot of people complain about his voice in TDK but I honestly didn't mind it. I heard every line loud and clear..

I thought Christian Bale's Batman in Batman Begins was by far the best interpretation of Batman onscreen.
His performance was ok in TDK, cause lets face it, Heath Ledger and Aaron Eckhart had the upper hand with more developed characters. I have to admit though, Bale was perfect in the whole segment of grieving Rachel's death.

Originally Posted by raunm

What? The Dark Knight managed to capture the essence of some of the more mature Batman comics while still being original and fun to watch. Burton's Batman films had no meaning, or theme behind them. It was just, Batman going and stopping badguys. But Nolan's films had so much under the surface, morals being tested, what's right and what's wrong, justice vs. what's fair, etc. etc. It had so much more meaning.

I'm not saying that Batman Begins wasn't good. I loved that movie, it's actually my 2nd favorite Batman film of all time. I'm just saying you know, read my post. They tried putting way too much into TDK and honestly, I will say it:
IF HEATH LEDGER DIDN'T DIE THEN TDK WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO FAMOUS Truth is, action films are popular for a while then people forget them, notice how they never win the Award for the "Best Movie of the Year"? People went to see that film because it was his last work.
That aside TDK did have a lot of really good action scenes and such. The scene in the bank at the begining, the scene at the party, the interogation scene, the chase scene where the Batmobile was destroyed so he had to use the BatCycle, those were some amazing scenes. However story wise not much happend, Joker was in it and Harvey became Two-Face, that's about all that happend.

Adam West will always be the bat to me. He perfected the bat tootsie.

Adam West was the best

Something is making me believe people only vote Adam West because he was the original, and not actually taking in the true character of Batman.

Michael Keaton was a phenomenal Batman, Bale is great but I don't think anyone will ever top Keaton's portrayal of the Dark Knight.

Keaton was so intimidating, and I loved how he rarely spoke as Batman, very quiet, dark, mysterious and eerie and his facial expressions were fantastic, all in the eyes.

Me being a total batman fan has skipped all the comments and voted for george cloooney: reason he has the right personality- good american actor to play batman..its only they had a crazy director for batman and robin. also because of this umum people are putting him down... and loastly cristion bales voice for batman is goood, michael keaton was quite good but um he didnt look like bruce wayne. and adam west was pretty crap.

I quite frankly hated Christian Bale's Batman voice. Seriously, he sounds like he has lung cancer. I'm gonna go with Michael Keaton.

For some reason, I never liked Batman. :/

Originally Posted by Veyrael

He was the voice actor for Batman in Batman: TSA, Batman Beyond, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited. :3

Also: Arkham Asylum and the various DCAU movies. Plus several other Batman video games.

He's been doing Batman's voice essentially non-stop for longer than all the other actors to have donned the cape combined. Something like 15 years now.

He's also very, very good at it.

Mind you, I like the DCAU Batman more than the comics one, since the DCAU one is much more human, while still being rather dark.

Its all about Keaton's Batman. His was just the best in my opinion.

Christian Bale; he perfectly captures the playboy Bruce Wayne. As Batman, he's the best live action version yet, as he doesn't just rely on gadgetry and fist fights; he relies on smarts to overcome his foes. Christian Bale's Batman also best presented the tragedy, psychology and motivation behind the character.

If there's one problem with his Batman, it's that he didn't go far enough as Batman (As in not representing the moral code, determination and obsessions Batman holds as much as he could).

As for the "voice" arguments, it works. He uses a deep, demonic tone to intimidate his opponents; psychologically battling them with fear (The other incarnations of Batman didn't really portray how Batman fights his enemies by using fear; they often avoided that to paint the character in a more heroic light, rather than a scowling, scornful interpretation. Come on, he's Batman, not Superman, damnit). In the comics, his voice is described as gruff, and it's only natural that someone would want to disguise his voice when fighting crime (After all, he's a public figure; his voice would be recognizable by virtually everyone).

I loved Dark Knight, but I hated the new Rachel, they should've kept
the actress from Batman Begins

lol

I'm sigging this

Originally Posted by Andross

... Come on, he's Batman, not Superman, damnit).

Good point, he's a badass not some pansy.