Anybody Who Liked the Prequel Trilogy?

Originally Posted by Deckard

I don't understand how people think Episode 3 was the worst. It had one of the most epic battles (Kashyyyk) and one of the most epic endings in the prequel trilogy.

Huh? Revenge of the Sith was considered the best

I liked Phantom Menace, even if it wasn't great. It perhaps has the best acting of the Prequels and doesn't have to go through the young-person-drama of II and III. I didn't mind Jar Jar that much, either, being that C-3PO was also pretty annoying in the original trilogy, but he certainly didn't kill any films. The setpieces were particularly neat if you ask me, Phantom Menace had a good variety of straight fights and then other exciting sequences.

Attack of the Clones was...oh boy. Besides the awful acting, the bland Boba Fett development, the weak prescence of Dooku, the disjointed Anakin sidestory, I really hated how it explored so little of the actual Clone Wars. I think it would've been way better to handle some of that in film rather than leaving it to an untold number of comics, video games and cartoons. The only thing about this film that I really liked was the action, which was admittedly quite good.

Revenge of the Sith was solid. It certainly did maintain some of the poor acting and annoying drama out of Anakin/Padme, but it also felt like the only one of the Prequels that actually meant something important. PM felt like just a sidestory not entirely significant, while AotC turned out to be merely the prologue for the Clone Wars. Revenge of the Sith, on the other hand, gave us great characterization of Sidious and displayed his cunning quite well. To this day I feel one of the most chilling sequences in any Star Wars media is what we get to see of Order 66.

Originally Posted by darkbeastganon

Huh? Revenge of the Sith was considered the best

Look at the below quotes.

Originally Posted by Alex

The Phantom Menace had it's moments, I think. Episode II and III are among the worst movies of all time.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

OMG I hate the prequels. They were terribble. The only part worth watching in the entire trilogy is the fight with darth Maul.

In my opinion, episode 3 was the worst of them all.

And also... Is padme some kind of pervert in the first episode?

Originally Posted by Jeff

I liked Phantom Menace, even if it wasn't great. It perhaps has the best acting of the Prequels and doesn't have to go through the young-person-drama of II and III. I didn't mind Jar Jar that much, either, being that C-3PO was also pretty annoying in the original trilogy, but he certainly didn't kill any films. The setpieces were particularly neat if you ask me, Phantom Menace had a good variety of straight fights and then other exciting sequences.

Attack of the Clones was...oh boy. Besides the awful acting, the bland Boba Fett development, the weak prescence of Dooku, the disjointed Anakin sidestory, I really hated how it explored so little of the actual Clone Wars. I think it would've been way better to handle some of that in film rather than leaving it to an untold number of comics, video games and cartoons. The only thing about this film that I really liked was the action, which was admittedly quite good.

Revenge of the Sith was solid. It certainly did maintain some of the poor acting and annoying drama out of Anakin/Padme, but it also felt like the only one of the Prequels that actually meant something important. PM felt like just a sidestory not entirely significant, while AotC turned out to be merely the prologue for the Clone Wars. Revenge of the Sith, on the other hand, gave us great characterization of Sidious and displayed his cunning quite well. To this day I feel one of the most chilling sequences in any Star Wars media is what we get to see of Order 66.

I'm guessing your stance on the prequels is:
1. ROTS
Agreed with what you say. But my brother's argument for being against this film is that it was predictable. I have no idea what he was expecting. He's the kind who expects too much
2. TPM
Agreed on this too. Though I view TPM as mostly the prologue, the introduction, I can see your point
3. AOTC
Guh. Oh god, the romance. listening to Jar Jar and 3po was a whole lot more tolerable. Dooku didn't really leave much of an impression on me as Darth Maul did

What annoyed me with episode 3...

-Acting

-Why the hell would they hide Luke on Tatooine, with his uncle and aunt, and leave him with the exact same last name? It's like spoon feeding him to Vader!

- Why does the emporer have a suit ready for Darth Vader? As if he was expecting Anikin's legs to be chopped off, and that we would have breathing problems.

- General Grevious

- I hate how they went through so much trouble to show how Chewbacca met Yoda, but nothing for how he met Han solo. Nothing for the Melenium Falcon either.

- In episode six, Leia says that she remembers her mother, her true mother, as being very sad. In Revenge of the sith, we see that she only knew her for like 5 seconds as newborn!

- Why are they getting all mad at Anikan for killing Douko (hate that name), when Mace windu was about to slice off the emporers head?

Also, on another note, Sholdn't C-3PO know that Vader is Luke's father, since Vader was the one who bulit him in the first place?

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

What annoyed me with episode 3...

-Acting

-Why the hell would they hide Luke on Tatooine, with his uncle and aunt, and leave him with the exact same last name? It's like spoon feeding him to Vader!

- Why does the emporer have a suit ready for Darth Vader? As if he was expecting Anikin's legs to be chopped off, and that we would have breathing problems.

- General Grevious

- I hate how they went through so much trouble to show how Chewbacca met Yoda, but nothing for how he met Han solo. Nothing for the Melenium Falcon either.

- In episode six, Leia says that she remembers her mother, her true mother, as being very sad. In Revenge of the sith, we see that she only knew her for like 5 seconds as newborn!

- Why are they getting all mad at Anikan for killing Douko (hate that name), when Mace windu was about to slice off the emporers head?

Also, on another note, Sholdn't C-3PO know that Vader is Luke's father, since Vader was the one who bulit him in the first place?

Pretty nitpicky.

Originally Posted by darkbeastganon

Pretty nitpicky.

Lol, It's true though!

The acting may have not been top notch on the prequel's I'll admit. But still, they are great great movies. They have a new feel that, sure feels off from the original Star Wars but still is nice. Of course they're no Empire Strikes Back, and I'll admit I've been disappointing with George Lucas' "writing" lately, but I think the prequels where really good.

It was ****ing terrible.

Originally Posted by DrZaius1

It was ****ing terrible.

The third one was half-way decent, at least compared to the garbage in the other two; the critics agree with this, as well.

Originally Posted by Andross

The third one was half-way decent, at least compared to the garbage in the other two; the critics agree with this, as well.

Revenge of the Sith was better then the other two, but it still was terrible. On another note, Return of the Jedi was never that great of a movie in the first place either.

Originally Posted by DrZaius1

Revenge of the Sith was better then the other two, but it still was terrible. On another note, Return of the Jedi was never that great of a movie in the first place either.

It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't great.

While Return of the Jedi failed to live up to the quality of the other two, it was still a very good movie and provided a satisfying end to the story.

Originally Posted by Andross

It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't great.

In terms of being invested in the series, it was terrible. As a film on it's own, it was mediocre.

While Return of the Jedi failed to live up to the quality of the other two, it was still a very good movie and provided a satisfying end to the story.

I disagree.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

What annoyed me with episode 3...


In episode six, Leia says that she remembers her mother, her true mother, as being very sad. In Revenge of the sith, we see that she only knew her for like 5 seconds as newborn!


Also, on another note, Sholdn't C-3PO know that Vader is Luke's father, since Vader was the one who bulit him in the first place?

1) Maybe as a child she could sense her sadness and... yeah?

Second if I remember correctly at the end of Revenge, they make mention that they will wipe their memory clean.

Originally Posted by Unit7

1) Maybe as a child she could sense her sadness and... yeah?

Second if I remember correctly at the end of Revenge, they make mention that they will wipe their memory clean.

Yes sir, the novelization says Leia looked around the room as if she wanted to observe every detail. Its the power of the Force!


I'm quite suprised the majority like the prequel trilogy, considering that it tends to be scorned at.

Originally Posted by darkbeastganon

I'm quite suprised the majority like the prequel trilogy, considering that it tends to be scorned at.

I enjoy them simply for the action. Also I love the fight scene at the end of PM. But I only watch them for the action bits, *shrugs*

I find the prequel trilogy tolerable to watch, but that doesn't mean the movies aren't terrible in the general sense of being quality films. They have some decent action, but that's about it.

Honestly, I wish that Lucas focused more on the interactions between characters than anything related to special effects or "wow factor" with the presentation. It would've been nice if he didn't just do every scene in one take, thus exposing the likes of Hayden and Natalie as horrible actors when in fact they have the capacity for much better. I think the only tolerable character in the entire trilogy was Obi-Wan, but even Ewan McGregor can't carry the rest of the cast under Lucas' flawed direction.

Though, I will say that Episode III was definitely the best of the prequel trilogy by a pretty wide margin. I remember actually liking it to some degree when I first watched it.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

-Why the hell would they hide Luke on Tatooine, with his uncle and aunt, and leave him with the exact same last name? It's like spoon feeding him to Vader!

That's why his aunt and uncle were so protective over Luke. Obi-Wan left Luke with them because he knew their lifestyle was pretty secluded.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

- Why does the emporer have a suit ready for Darth Vader? As if he was expecting Anikin's legs to be chopped off, and that we would have breathing problems.

Nobody said that the suit was ready and waiting for Anakin's accident. It could have been built after he arrived (sure, the scene is only about 5 minutes, but it cuts between Padmé's labor, so for all we know it could have been all night), used previously by someone with a similar condition (like Plo Koon of the Jedi Council and his breathing mask), or it was built for some droid or machine to use.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

- General Grevious

Wow, Grievous is one of my favorite villains/movie characters ever. What ISN'T plain awesome about him? All you oldies appreciate the originals for their introduction of the lightsaber, when Revenge of the Sith expanded on that with inventing a character that used 4 of them at once. If that's not totally cool, I don't know what is. He's also got his own ship at his command and that transforming vehicle he uses on Utapau.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

- I hate how they went through so much trouble to show how Chewbacca met Yoda, but nothing for how he met Han solo. Nothing for the Melenium Falcon either.

Did I miss something? Yoda never met Han Solo, simple as that. Chewie didn't even know Han Solo then. We're lucky Yoda and Chewbacca ever even had contact, because I don't think it's ever mentioned in the original films, is it?

Also, the Millennium Falcon is seen docking in Coruscant around the beginning of the movie. I heard the moviemakers say that it was probably piloted by Lando at that point.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

- In episode six, Leia says that she remembers her mother, her true mother, as being very sad. In Revenge of the sith, we see that she only knew her for like 5 seconds as newborn!

She says she remembers "images" and "feelings" of the mother who died when she was very young. While the film only reveals a few moments of their interaction, a bit more time could have been spent between Padmé and Leia that we didn't see. There was just a connection between them that Leia confesses in Return of the Jedi.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

- Why are they getting all mad at Anikan for killing Douko (hate that name), when Mace windu was about to slice off the emporers head?

Now, I haven't seen the movie for about a year or more, but I don't remember anybody being angry at Anakin for killing Count Dooku. I seem to remember Palpatine, the Council, and Obi-Wan congratulating him for that. Also, Mace only intended to arrest the Chancellor in the beginning, until they were assaulted and 3 Jedi were killed by him. That changed things. Plus, it's the Jedi's job to defeat Sith Lords such as Palpatine. On top of all of this, Mace was feeling a little reckless at the time.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

Also, on another note, Sholdn't C-3PO know that Vader is Luke's father, since Vader was the one who bulit him in the first place?

Ugh, your annoyances mostly come from something you simply heard wrong. The second-to-last line of Revenge of the Sith is Bail Organa ordering for C-3PO's memory to be wiped. That's why, in the originals, 3PO is commonly clueless and R2-D2 has other things on his mind, he just can't tell anyone.

I really disliked them. Ep. I was made to introduce everyone so they could have Ep. III, and epsiode II was just bridge that gave us our future stormies. If you cut out all the crap from the movies, you'd be lucky to have a full movie.
Also, the time difference between the movies are SO OBVIOUS. I mean, we know years pass between 5 and 6 (maybe not so much 4 and 5), but isn't that obvious.

We go from the start of the war to basically the end! Where does grevious come from? Dooku all of a sudden pops up, who is effectively Qui Gon's Master, and don't get me started on Jar Jar.

Also, I don't think political tension makes a good plot in a Star Wars movie.

I can back up the idea that I is the best of the prequel trilogy. Honestly I thought the acting and dialogue was a lot better than the next two movies, which were practically ruined by both of those and the excessive amounts of CG. Star Wars Episode II is seriously one of the worst movies I've ever seen.