Harry Potter VII

The old thread for this died out, so I figured I'd start a new one.

This thread is for discussion of the final book in the Harry Potter series. Speculation, hopes, wishes, whatever goes here. Primarily, the discussion should be aimed at:

--The Horcruxes, obviously, as they are going to be the central focus of the next book, no doubt.
--What's going to happen at Hogwarts while Harry's gone.
--Other speculations about major plot events/romantic subplots/etc.

My two cents for today is that one of the following is most likely a Horcrux: Harry's wand, Harry's scar, or Harry himself. Harry's wand is a candidate because it is connected to Voldemort's via the phoenix feather, and because it has been involved in a few deaths (I think), Harry's scar because it marks a landmark in Voldemort's life and is connected to a killing of his, and Harry himself because surviving such a powerful spell would have all kinds of unforeseen effects, this being one of the likely ones.

I also think that Harry's friends at Hogwarts are going to discover the location of at least one of the Horcruxes, and that either Draco Malfoy is going to kill Snape for whatever reason, or Snape is going to save Hogwarts from some danger in an act of nobility (thus proving that he was loyal to Dumbledore).

I could care less about sideplots at this point. They're inevitable and usually stupid.


Discuss.

Isnt Snape Evil though.. I mean Ya Know.. I dont trust him, Why be so mean to Harry just for a past grudge!

As for the Horcruxes, i think And only think that doesnt one have to come from each of the houses of Hogwarts?? Is that not right... If so With one down, that leaves 3, thiers 7 in total so only another possible Three, I agree with the Wand, Not too sure about the Scar, but that might tie in with harry Generally...Wonder what the last one is... Prehaps its in one of his followers, say Lucius Malfoy... A Showdown between him and Prehaps Harry/Ron/Hermonie Would be cool. Hell i'd love anyone to kick his ass

Yeah, I don't think Snape will be portryed as a good guy again in book seven. Yeah, four of the Horcruxes are meant to be artifacts of the House founders. So that's four down. And isn't the diary from book 2 another one? And isn't there another one mentioned in Half Blood Prince, or am I just remembering incorrectly? And as for Harry's wand as a Horcrux - interesting. I never considered that. That would mean that for Harry to kill Voldemort he'd have to destroy his own wand in the process. Interesting thought. Though I don't think that Harry's scar would be one. When would Voldemort have had the opportunity to make it one? No I think I'll rule out the Scar.

And, as for romances in book VII, I think that the all the romance predicted will happe.: Ron & Hermione and Harry & Ginny. Rowling has put so many hints about all this that she can't ignore what's she's written in the last few years and she'll have to put it in.

But hey, I'm not psychic.

But the thing is, will Harry continue to "see" Ginny after what they both said to each other in the end of HBP? I mean, they both know Voldemort will be after the other because they are linked, Harry because he's linked to Voldemort and Ginny linked to Harry.

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But the thing is, will Harry continue to "see" Ginny after what they both said to each other in the end of HBP? I mean, they both know Voldemort will be after the other because they are linked, Harry because he's linked to Voldemort and Ginny linked to Harry.

No, I doubt it. Harry says so himself...they can't see each other while Voldemorts after him. He has to keep that thing very hush hush. But they still like each other, even though they are not together.

And as for Harry's wand as a Horcrux - interesting. I never considered that. That would mean that for Harry to kill Voldemort he'd have to destroy his own wand in the process. Interesting thought.

It makes sense, since I doubt Harry would sink so low as to try to use the Killing Curse on Voldy. Besides, it would be interesting to see what kind of clever option Harry would have to use instead. Would he unlock such a power in himself so as to transcend the need to use a wand?

When would Voldemort have had the opportunity to make it one?

The scar has been an outlet for a lot of things Voldemort didn't intend to happen--its becoming a Horcrux is actually a viable idea. Surviving that powerful a spell would likely have potent effects, and the Horcrux charms are some of the most powerful spells out there.

The plot's unfolding really well. I never knew that J K Rowling was planning this all along.... The series has really got gripping!

As I was bored the other night, I figured i'd post some interesting websites to read to hold you over til the next book:

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Dumbledore dead?

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The site above is in spoilers just in case you haven't read the book yet, you can click it, if it did come out black. Look at that site at your own risk. It gives good indications of whether or not a certain someone actually died in the book, with a lot of good evidence.

www.mugglenet.com - one of the two top fansites, with a lot of interesting articles. Check out the new clues forum for those things in the first six books you haven't seen yet. Also, they have a podcast called Mugglecast, which you should listen to.

www.leakynews.com - the other of the two top fansites, has a lot of good news and info. Also has a podcast called Pottercast, with a good cast. (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#s...rviews/jkrhbp1 <--should bring you to an interview that both sites had with Rowling on the eve of her book 6 release. Leaves you wondering about book 7, as they asked a LOT of good questions).

www.knight2king.net - Another good theory site, basically takes a look at the chess game in the first book and looks at it as a plot foreshadow. It also theorizes that Ron Weasley is actually Dumbledore. Good evidence, good reading.

http://www.jkrowling.com - Rowling own website, good read from the author herself, and the site is filled with fun facts and a neat flash setup. Also, you can take her WOMBAT test, if that silly door opens again.

There's some good stuff to read while you wait. Also, the fansites cover a lot of movie news as well.

The site Lozzie spoiler'ed is brilliant. I'm going to second the recommendation.

I would like to point out something to everyone who posts. Assume that you are the only one who has read Half-Blood Prince, as not everyone has read it. Think, if someone had told you the major secret of that book before you read it, wouldn't you get a little pissed about it?

[spoiler][/spoiler] They are a wonderful thing.

I'm going to spoiler my whole bit, just in case.

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I think Dumbledore is dead - like, really dead, not red-herring dead. I've encountered that website before and I think the author is reaching, to put it mildly. But I'm always open to possibilities, and J.K. likes to surprise, so I won't write anything off yet.

The whole deal with Snape killing Dumbledore is accounted for at the beginning of HBP when Snape shakes hands with Draco's mum - a magical pact is formed, and Snape is obligated to act in Draco's place. So I think the next book with show Snape redeemed, in a way, because I don't think he wanted to kill Dumbledore at all.

As for Harry himself being a Horcrux - I had the same thought. But would Voldemort try so hard to kill him if he was? I keep thinking back on GoF in the cemetary, when Voldemort very definitely intended to do him in. Perhaps having seven Horcruxes meant he could afford to lose one...

I heard that we could get the last book as early as next summer. Or at least sometime in 2007. Which is promising, because I thought since she only had one to go, J.K. might drag her feet for, you know, ten or twenty years.

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I think Harry might be the sixth Horcrux. I mean, I highly doubt that the snake is the sixth Horcrux. Also, my mom thinks that Seamus might make an important appearance later in the last book. She says that "Seamus has always been there in the previous books," whatever that means . . .

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While the theories proposed by the site Lozzie posted are quite interesting and logical, I tend to err to Pipking's side. Also, I'd like to clear something up. Voldemort is suggested to have six Horcruxes, not seven.

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His soul is supposed to be split into seven parts, one of which would dwell in his physical body. Of course, this doesn't mean there won't be a seventh Horcrux. In fact, breaking the powerful number and making it eight might point to his demise.

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However, in the case that Dumbledore is truly not dead, and that he created one or more Horcruxes to preserve himself, there are a few additional evidences I think are worth noting. 1 ) Dumbledore has said on many counts that he does not fear death. However, after he is wounded in the gap between books 5 and 6, he seems a little on edge because of his wounds despite this statement. While this doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't talking literally, it could point to the fact that he is afraid of death, but is insured by his Horcrux(es). 2 ) Dumbledore, as McGonagal (sp?) said in Book 1, knows the Dark Arts, which could point to his being a dark wizard at some point in the past. This would explain his brilliant insight into Voldemort's criminal mind, and his suspection that Voldemort created a Horcrux, and would have provided him with the willpower necessary to commit murder, which is necessary for the creation of one.

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The chess game site is also pretty brilliant.

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For the Horcruxes... when they say "something of Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's," has anyone thought that it could perhaps be Godric Gryffindor's sword that Harry found in book 2? And that will pull him willingly or not back to Hogwarts? Because lets face it... Hogwarts is going to be in the book no matter what.

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I personally think that it's entirely possible that Voldemort would try to make Harry a horcrux. This would explain why Harry survived the avada kadavra curse: perhaps it wasn't placed on him in the first place. Think about it: there wasn't actually anybody that saw it happen, was there? As far as I know, there wasn't. Just 2 dead bodies and a freshly-scarred baby Harry. Assumptions were obviously made. Plus, it would make sense for Voldy to make the boy that was supposed to be his downfall into something that could bring him back (which, in a sense, is what he did anyway... if you remember that his blood was used to give Voldy a new body in book 4).

Of course, I could be horribly wrong. What I'm wondering is, who is R.A.B.? The only name I've been able to come up with is Regalus Black.

I think that Snape's loyal to Voldy. Just my opinion. I mean, he killed Dumbledore, after all, and he's supposed to be the only one that can defeat Voldemort. That is, unless you count Harry, but I don't think Snape puts much stock in Harry's abilities as a wizard. Though, he did technically save Harry... he told the death eaters to leave him there rather than take him to Voldemort... or something. I don't remember perfectly.

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