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  1. the great 32
    09-27-2009 03:59 PM - permalink
    the great 32
    hey I've finished the prologue, want to take a look at it?
  2. the great 32
    09-20-2009 02:56 PM - permalink
    the great 32
    ok, then I shall get to work on more Alcifet (the language) I'm making it myself.
  3. Shinespark
    09-20-2009 02:41 PM - permalink
    Shinespark
    Sorry for the lateness of my response. In any case, having characters speak in foreign languages is fine. It can accomplish a few things rather nicely. If a non-understanding character is present in a scene where said language is being spoken, it's a good way to progress the story and/or characters without cluing in your main characters or your audience. This can leave the story and/or character(s) open for surprise progression.

    Something else foreign languages can do is, if used in a scene where only people that speak that language are present, is reveal something about the plot and/or character(s) without revealing too much. For instance, much as you were saying, you could clue the audience into the gist of what was going on by actions, body language, tone of voice, etc. This way they get glimpses of what's being said. Enough to know what's going on, but not enough to have it all spelled out for them.

    I once used this exact mechanic in a scene of one of my stories once, in that a character who I had rarely revealed any development in was able to develop partially, but not totally, by having him speak in a foreign language. I dropped hints to the audience in various bits in the scene, but never enough. In this way, I was able to reveal more about said character, without destroying the fact that part of his purpose in the story was to be enigmatic and mysterious.
  4. the great 32
    09-19-2009 02:25 AM - permalink
    the great 32
    another question, if make up a language and put paragraphs that tell whats happening in the future but leave people with no way to read it do you think they would get made?
  5. the great 32
    09-18-2009 08:03 PM - permalink
    the great 32
    I'll keep thinking about it, in the end, Haradin is reckless but lucky, I think I'll write 2 versions see which one makes more sense, but that wont be for a while.
  6. Shinespark
    09-18-2009 07:41 PM - permalink
    Shinespark
    Whatever you feel will be best for your story. Certainly don't take anything I say as absolute truth. And sometimes the best way to learn is by making a mistake as egregious as making a hated hero when that was not your intention. It's all up to you in the end.
  7. the great 32
    09-18-2009 07:06 PM - permalink
    the great 32
    I see, perhaps I will have her throw herself at him, because it is not really about them being together but the son they have together is important to a later story.

    1. War of Unification
    2. The Great Alzian War
    3. Trans-Kangi Sea Conflict
    4. Mired in Hodcova
    5. The Interplanitary War

    all the stories span about 1600 years
  8. Shinespark
    09-18-2009 06:58 PM - permalink
    Shinespark
    Really depends on how you want the audience to view him. Now, obviously, any hero is going to have his flaws, but rape, no matter how it's done and how sorry the character feels afterward, is probably the most heinous act someone can commit, and the one that is so rarely forgiven. Chances are, no matter what else your hero does before or after that, your audience will dislike him. Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

    It can be used to your advantage to confuse the audience's emotions. A great example of this is in the end of the film Secret Window, when (after cheering on Mort and hoping he wins for most of the film) we suddenly realize the hero is insane and has been murdering people the whole film. So at that point, we've (or at least I) become so invested in this character that we still want him to win, yet we definitely don't want him to win, because that would mean we'd be rooting for a murderer.

    If something like that is what you're going for, then the act of rape may be perfectly acceptable (in terms of the story you're telling, not in actuality of course). If, however, you want your audience to view him as a mostly good guy, I'd leave it out. Like I said earlier, rape is an almost unforgivable act, and your audience will truly hate the hero for it.
  9. the great 32
    09-18-2009 06:39 PM - permalink
    the great 32
    tell me comrade, I'm writing this story and near the end the main char captures the enemies commander, who happens to be a women that he was suppose to marry but she tried to kill him and ended up killing her own father which is what started the I might add, and anyway when he captures her he rapes her, do you think that is a bad, for my main guy to do?
  10. the great 32
    09-18-2009 05:14 PM - permalink
    the great 32
    I agree, the theme is not that great, but I had an idea immediate so I was able to get something out quickly.

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