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  1. Ysionris
    11-04-2009 07:03 PM - permalink
    Ysionris
    Good luck finding said majority~ XD
  2. Lord Zero
    11-04-2009 05:51 PM - permalink
    Lord Zero
    I suggested that a majority would need to.
  3. Ysionris
    11-04-2009 01:40 PM - permalink
    Ysionris
    Just wanted to add before you went offline considering supranational police: "Yes, but police forces are also maintained by governments that agree to fund it. Supranational police cannot function if nations cannot be convinced to form, support, and sponsor it."
  4. Lord Zero
    11-04-2009 12:58 PM - permalink
    Lord Zero
    The Absolute Emperor of Justice~
  5. Ysionris
    11-04-2009 12:49 PM - permalink
    Ysionris
    I would classify Lelouch as an anti-hero, but largely because I have a very gray sense of morality; although I hardly believe that the application of such is universal, "the ends justify the means" is a rather appealing chain of thought, in my honest opinion. (Then, again, for me, the border between anti-hero and villain protagonist is not only razor-thin, but extremely blurred; after all, what defines a villain? Antagonism shown to the show's leading characters, or exhibition of morals by whoever's standards? ^_^; )

    Otherwise, I wouldn't disagree with your points. All hail Lelouch. XD
  6. Lord Zero
    11-04-2009 12:19 PM - permalink
    Lord Zero
    I would argue that Lelouch is actually in the context of anime a "villain protagonist" - were it not for the fact that the show is told from his perspective, he would almost certainly be the villain. Most mecha animes take the perspective of characters like Suzaku, which is why I find myself often siding with the villain, not least of which because they actually want to change things. Suzaku and characters like him aren't happy with the system as it stands, but they prefer trying to slowly change things from within rather than leading a just revolution against an unjust regime. They would rather maintain the status quo than see a character they disagree with for primarily moral reasons change the world for what they see as the greater good. This is why I side with Lelouch - not only does he think like me (philosophically, not strategically), but he thinks like villains in many other animes.
  7. Ysionris
    11-04-2009 12:09 PM - permalink
    Ysionris
    A Byronic hero, coined after Lord George Gordon Byron (who enjoyed writing this archetype of characters and was one himself, although by no means is this archetype his invention), is essentially a protagonist - almost always an anti-hero, that is idealized but ultimately flawed. Common traits include high level of perception, intelligence, adaptation, cunning, and sophistication, often possessing a great deal of social (and possibly sexual) dominance through mystique, and probably not a great deal of traits that would identify him as a "classical hero" of virtue and all that fun stuff. ^_^;

    ...Obviously, Lelouch is one of the best textbook examples of a Byronic hero found in anime. ^_^
  8. Lord Zero
    11-04-2009 12:03 PM - permalink
    Lord Zero
    I have no idea what that means. >_>
  9. Ysionris
    11-04-2009 11:53 AM - permalink
    Ysionris
    Welcome to a show run by Byronic heroes, indeed. XD
  10. Lord Zero
    11-04-2009 11:32 AM - permalink
    Lord Zero
    A show full of magnificent bastardry, lust for power, and love of Justice is hardly to be denied respect

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