x33 What an optimistic thought. : P Poor little Snuggleburgs, your daddy thinks you will have ruined all his fun!

I wanna travel the world before I do have any little munchkins. See eeevery continent possible.

I can see that you are not one to be convinced, as is the trend among ZUers. Therefore, I have chosen to discontinue this argument. neither of us is winning any ground and it looks like neither of us is going to lose ground soon voluntarily, so it is pointless to continue.

America is still the greatest nation in the world, and patriotism is healthy, and 9/11 was a terrible tragedy that Australia has never experienced. Deal with it.

I'm not yet twenty. x3 Aaaalmost but not quite. *clings to youth!*

Yeah, I should have been more clear. Sorry.

No, no. It was maybe 9 o' clock, and lots of parents were coming to get their kids, but, they evantually stopped them from entering.

Well, they weren't un-applying their kids from the school. They just took them home for a day to a week.

I don't get whyyyy. x33 Nothing at all about me screams maturity.

Heeeey, one year difference maan, one year. : P

x3 Since I was on AIM talking this late?

Sorry, my keyboard keeps sticking. I was saying that, after a while, parents weren't allowed to go in the school to pick their children up.

Then tell me what makes Canada greater, since you just slammed all of your points for Canada too.

Yes. xP

Omnipresent is a different word. :3

America has a greater military, more influential economy, higher population, and more. They beat us in area, but that is not the deciding factor to a country's greatness. America is the most influential country in the world, and the greatest.

edit: And their healthcare system sucks. Everyone gets it... with a 6 month waiting period before any major operation, and the greater the operation the longer the wait. Plus, they pay for it with their taxes, so it is not free, despite what politicians would want you to believe. plus they have little or no choice in their treatment, only what the government says is cheap enough.

Name a greater one.

This is fact, not pride.

Something he'd need to see? Him, see? : P

I would disagree that we consider ourselves more important. Man, I hate writing the same things over and over.
That's what I said, that's what I meant. I agree that pride can be a bad thing, but 9/11 didn't boost our pride much. It was actually a wake up call for us. What it did was unite us as a nation and increase our patriotism not our selfish pride. There is a difference. Whether your mind can grasp it or not, 9/11 reduced our pride and increased our patriotism. That is fact.

Whatever your outlook on life is, you would feel more like we do if it had happened to you.

And yes, a love of your country is a virtue. American patriotism is not "over the top" as you say. We don't consider our own lives as individuals more important than other humans. Most of us, that is. We heavily savor our freedom. We celebrate our freedom, and we are proud of our country and it's achievements. We are proud to be citizens of the greatest nation on earth. As far as being more important than other creatures, all human life is far more important than animal or plant life, regardless of sex, race, or nationality of the human.

Numbers are far different than lives. Numbers represent lives, but they aren't lives themselves. We can easily say that 2,998 people died. It brings far less emotion than if you think about the people themselves, and the families of those people, and how devastated the families must be, how terrified the people must have been, how badly it must have hurt all those people, and the ones who survived, what they went through. Surely you cannot think about those things and not have to fight the tears from your eyes. I have t do so as I write this. You cannot be human and not be saddened by this.

For the record, I have much the same outlook as you described on life in general as well, but 9/11 just gets me. Every time 9/11 rolls around I find within myself a new level of patriotism, a new level of philanthropy. And when I suggested a holiday in the 9/11 thread, I was suggesting one not centered around the loss of 2998 lives, not that alone. A time t remember what happened, cry a little, and one again find that new level of patriotism within ourselves and unite as a nation like we did on 9/11/2001.

If this does not convince you than I think we can agree that you are not quite human and agree to disagree.

Really? x3 She makes some sort of significant change in him/his plot?

Nolan beat me to it, but thanks.