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Old 05-03-2008, 05:01 PM   #1
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Exclamation Why so lose about porn/homosexual junk on the net?

I mean, sure it doesn't offend "everyone" but there are a few people (like me) that puke at the mere mention of the word. Youtube has rules that say you can't put any sexually explict movies on there or it's rejected. Yet I've seen (well seen, not watched) a lot of stupid stuff. You can tell it's porn by the name and stupid still-shots. I even saw some ZELDA porn!!(Well never watched it, but it was there) Geese, and people think I need a life.... Even here I've seen some er...un-desired responses. Youtube let's them put it on there just cause people say in the description "warning, porn-ish content" or something to that effect. To me that should count as immediate rejection! Well it could be cause I'm Christian and don't like "worldly" things, but still it's there and I think it's a problem.
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Look, I can understand you not liking porn, but what is it that you have against homosexuality? There's nothing wrong with it.

And you've said (A lot) that you're a Christian. What does that have to do with anything?
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Have you ever seen the WoW video 'The Internet is for Porn?' or I think thats right.

Seriously if you dont want to look at it, then dont. Most of that content can only be obtained if you are 18+ and listed as mature. Also no one is forcing you to look. Just ignore it.
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Look, I can understand you not liking porn, but what is it that you have against homosexuality? There's nothing wrong with it.

And you've said (A lot) that you're a Christian. What does that have to do with anything?
Yeah Zfan you seem to be ducking this question. What does Christianity have to do with homosexuality? Really. it's not a big deal. If you don't like porn then don't watch it, and if you don't like gays then avoid them.
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There is an age restriction, but it's not there for the porno, it's there for other mature content like violence and stuff.

Youtube doesn't allow pornographic stuff but people upload them anyway.
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Well it could be cause I'm Christian and don't like "worldly" things, but still it's there and I think it's a problem.
So you're saying you think the internet should have no porno at all? The day that happens is the day I accept creationism.

Look, if you don't like porno, don't look at it. It's as simple as that. But there are people who enjoy looking at it and they should be allowed to look at it. (As long as it's not child pornography. That's wrong.)
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I've got a better question: why do people find porn/homosexuality offensive?

Honestly, I don't see anything inherently wrong with it. Sure, if you don't like it that's fine, don't look at it. Very rarely do sites have porn springing up at you without warning.

But again, I don't see how seeing people naked, or having just regular sex is offensive. Is it religious reasons? Is it because you're parents told you that it was offensive?

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So you're saying you think the internet should have no porno at all? The day that happens is the day I accept creationism.
That reminds me of a quote from Scrubs (I think) that goes along the lines of "If you took all the porn off the internet, there would only be one site left and it would be called 'Bring back the porn'."
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Just don't bloody look at it. Don't ruin our fun because you're a little stuck-up.
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I'm Christian too, but...You learn to live with it.
You can't change the world. You can't even change a PART of it.
no matter how much people tell you you can change the world, sweetie you can't.

that's the cold hard truth. the internet is ment for freedom.
...that's exactly what's happening. If you don't like it stay away from youtube maybe?
I mean, you don't have some physical or emotional need to visit that website..do ya?


Nietszche: Just because he's speaking his mind about this, and the fact he's christian doesn't make him at all stuck up. That's how christians are raised. That's how we believe. YOU can speak your mind freely of things, so can we :]
Now, this is a DISCUSSION. Therefore he can DISCUSS whatevah he wants too without being the least bit stuck up, right? Right. And I haven't seen a bit of that at all. A lot of complaining, but not stuck up. so anyway. yeah.

Twilightwolf64: What makes child pornography so wrong, but more adult pornography right?
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So you're saying you think the internet should have no porno at all? The day that happens is the day I accept creationism.

Look, if you don't like porno, don't look at it. It's as simple as that. But there are people who enjoy looking at it and they should be allowed to look at it. (As long as it's not child pornography. That's wrong.)
That's not exactly what I meant, I just think the net should be a little more strict is all. Also, I'm a bit of a purist. As in "if it's against the bible, then I don't like it...period" I'm not a superChristian, it's just I have a little more moral sense than most teens my age. I go to church and youth, I believe in God, but that's about it. I am going to start reading the bible though. It's not that I find it offencive, it just discusts me a bit that's all. I have no problem with it simply being there, just don't force me to watch it, read it, and especially to do it! Other than what you said, I'm actually a pretty average teen. Part time job, all that stuff. I just don't find the same things interesting as you do...other than Zelda anyway. I hope that clears things up a bit for you. I don't like porn exct plain and simple, & nothing you (or anyone else) can do or say to change my opinon. As far as saying I'm Chrstian a lot is concerned. I'm just proud of it, & I want "other" Christans to know....okay I'm done now.
One quick question though, how is it you find ONE catagory of porn "right" & the next "wrong" anyway, I've said it thousands of times anything porn-related (well to me at least) is wrong!
sry 4 ranting & sounding like Chris..but it's what I do u know?
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That's not exactly what I meant, I just think the net should be a little more strict is all. Also, I'm a bit of a purist. As in "if it's against the bible, then I don't like it...period" I'm not a superChristian, it's just I have a little more moral sense than most teens my age. I go to church and youth, I believe in God, but that's about it. I am going to start reading the bible though. It's not that I find it offencive, it just discusts me a bit that's all. I have no problem with it simply being there, just don't force me to watch it, read it, and especially to do it! Other than what you said, I'm actually a pretty average teen. Part time job, all that stuff. I just don't find the same things interesting as you do...other than Zelda anyway. I hope that clears things up a bit for you. I don't like porn exct plain and simple, & nothing you (or anyone else) can do or say to change my opinon. As far as saying I'm Chrstian a lot is concerned. I'm just proud of it, & I want "other" Christans to know....okay I'm done now.
One quick question though, how is it you find ONE catagory of porn "right" & the next "wrong" anyway, I've said it thousands of times anything porn-related (well to me at least) is wrong!
sry 4 ranting & sounding like Chris..but it's what I do u know?
Godammit, what does your religion have to do with anything!? You don't see me saying I'm Jewish in every post.

And as others have said, if you find porno offensive, don't bloody look at it. But stop trying to force your ideas on us. You won't change our opinions either.

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@Elegy: Forcing a child into sexual acts destroys their innocence and traumatizes them for life.
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Okay. How do you know some of these pornstars aren't forced into it?
Believe me. There are ALOT. And then, some of them don't even know they're being taped. Some of them are high, and have no idea what's going on then wind up on the inernet. It destroys them too.
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If there's anything Christianity's taught us, it's that sex is a dirty, filthy, disgusting thing that you should save only for the person you love the most.
"The Christian resolve to find the world ugly and bad, has made the world ugly and bad." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Honestly, the world made itself bad.
Christians and/or any other type of religion had absolutely nothing to do with it.

And that..that's a fact.
Not one religion can make the world how it is today.
That's simply an idiotic statement to say the least.
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Honestly, the world made itself bad.
Christians and/or any other type of religion had absolutely nothing to do with it.

And that..that's a fact.
Not one religion can make the world how it is today.
That's simply an idiotic statement to say the least.
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What he meant was that the christian resolve to see all natural things humans do as "ugly and bad" has made them ugly and bad.
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Okay. How do you know some of these pornstars aren't forced into it?
Believe me. There are ALOT. And then, some of them don't even know they're being taped. Some of them are high, and have no idea what's going on then wind up on the inernet. It destroys them too.
But some of them do have a choice, whereas children do not. And even if it didn't end up on the internet, the sexual acts themselves would scar the poor children for life.
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Twilightwolf64: What makes child pornography so wrong, but more adult pornography right?
Most adult pornography features two (or more in some cases ) adults participating in consensual sexual intercourse. Most people would feel the same way they do about porn with adults in it if those adults were being raped, as they would about child pornography, although possibly not quite as much.

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As in "if it's against the bible, then I don't like it...period"
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I am going to start reading the bible though.
I think, if you resolve to follow the Bible to the letter, then you will be horrified at the things you will have to do once you finally read it.
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I'd say that sexually natured photographs of children shouldn't be allowed since the children below a certain age are "too young to know what they are 'consenting' to".
However, any drawn child pornography isn't wrong, in my opinion, even though I think it's generally disgusting and disturbing.
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What he meant was that the christian resolve to see all natural things humans do as "ugly and bad" has made them ugly and bad.
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It doesn't matter what he meant.
The guy sounds like a douche to me.

And no matter what he says, to me it's wrong.
It isn't the christian resolve to see those things.
We just do, and we don't accept it. Therefore, we, amongst ourselves, label it wrong.
That doesn't make them ugly OR bad. The things they do are ugly and bad, but never the person.
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It doesn't matter what he meant.
The guy sounds like a douche to me.

And no matter what he says, to me it's wrong.
It isn't the christian resolve to see those things.
We just do, and we don't accept it. Therefore, we, amongst ourselves, label it wrong.
That doesn't make them ugly OR bad. The things they do are ugly and bad, but never the person.
It appears you've judged a man by one line just because that one line is slanting Christianity. Please reevaluate your statements.


The way I see that line, Christians only see the world as ugly. It's not actually ugly, they just see it that way. And because they're looking so hard to find things that are bad about the world, they find them in places they don't really exist. Such as the issue of homosexuality.
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It appears you've judged a man by one line just because that one line is slanting Christianity. Please reevaluate your statements.


The way I see that line, Christians only see the world as ugly. It's not actually ugly, they just see it that way. And because they're looking so hard to find things that are bad about the world, they find them in places they don't really exist. Such as the issue of homosexuality.
There's no reevaluating about it.
I've heard about that man. I know enough about him
to not like him :/

And you have the right point of view about the Niestzche statement.
I too think that's what he was saying now.
Although there is no truth in that as I've already said.
Christians don't MAKE things wrong or ugly.
And no, christians don't only see the world as ugly. I see the world as a beautiful, beautiful place despite the wrong things(in my mind) that go on.
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