Old 03-24-2008, 08:04 AM   #1
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I've hated this guy for a while now. I've never hated anyone before, and I have good reason to hate him... personal reasons, attacks against my family, etc. He's a really screwed up guy with no friends except for ones he makes online. I've tried to be nice to him, many times, but he keeps stabbing me in the back. I've come to the point where I would actually be happy if he died.

Well... he's committed suicide. Jeeze, I don't know where else to put this, so I'm putting it here. I'm not happy... I don't know what to feel. I'm kind of glad he's gone but... holy crap... I wish he hadn't have done that! I feel terrible... I am actually kinda sad...

I guess you never know what you're going to feel until it happens... :/
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Simply try to move on, as trying to talk about it with his friends won't work in this situation.

Just go the the cremation/burial if you really feel bad about it, as it might allow you to end this story.
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Just go the the cremation/burial if you really feel bad about it, as it might allow you to end this story.
Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks.
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There are times that we will meet people who make our lives difficult. Of course we may wish for them to disappear, but in the end, you weren't at fault for his death. You've turned your other cheek and tried to be the good samaritan by trying to befriend him, but he continued to lash at you. Don't feel guilty for his death. Although the timing was quite coincidental, don't blame yourself. Instead, try to have remorse for his family in the sad times they are going through right now. Please don't speak negatively of the dead, it's never a good thing to do (at least when he's fresh on everybody's minds), just be the bigger person, go to his ceremonial funeral and truly forgive him for all the troubles he caused you when he was alive. If you can't forgive him now, it may carry on with you for the rest of your life. This is the best way to start moving on...

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Suicide is not unnormal. There are more than 1,000 deaths by suicide in the teenage society today.

I feel your pain. I really do. I live in a nice house. My parents are making good money, (were not rich.) But I live in the worst neighborhood in this small town in Iowa. I have heard of many deaths and suicides than the avg. person probably hears of in Detroit, Michigan. Sure we really don't have gangsters down here... but worse: Suicidal/Homicidal Teenagers. More Stereotyping than you see on TV/Movies. It's really hell where I live.

Don't feel bad too long... it's nobodies fault.
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I've hated this guy for a while now. I've never hated anyone before, and I have good reason to hate him... personal reasons, attacks against my family, etc. He's a really screwed up guy with no friends except for ones he makes online. I've tried to be nice to him, many times, but he keeps stabbing me in the back. I've come to the point where I would actually be happy if he died.

Well... he's committed suicide. Jeeze, I don't know where else to put this, so I'm putting it here. I'm not happy... I don't know what to feel. I'm kind of glad he's gone but... holy crap... I wish he hadn't have done that! I feel terrible... I am actually kinda sad...

I guess you never know what you're going to feel until it happens... :/

Not to be an ass, but why're you suddenly so upset that he's dead? He was a pest. From a totally "nature" point of view, your life has been bettered by his cease of existence. Treasure it, be indifferent, but do not be upset. It is quite hypocritical to do so. Death is natural, it happens to everyone. It does not play favorites. He chose to take his own life. Hundreds of other people, around the world, are doing the exact same thing as I type this message.
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I knew a guy like that. I hate him still, and I'm fairly sure his death wouldn't upset me. I wouldn't be happy as such, but I wouldn't care. Don't feel bad about it, it isn't your fault.
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:17 AM   #8
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Probably killed himself because no one liked him. I mean it doesn't sound like he'd have too many friends.

If so, I'd hate to say it, but, he had it coming. I'd reccommend just forgetting about him and move on with your life.
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Just try and move on. No use beating yourself up about something you probably couldn't have done anything to change.
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there are two facts here

1.You hated him

2. He committed suicide

that is not your problem- you should feel sorry that he was so mucked up that he did that but unless you were responsible for his suicide it is not anything to do with you!
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I agree with BGS here. He took the words right out of my mouth.

It's normal to be sad at the loss of someone, even if it were someone you didn't like.

As long as you aren't laughing at this and jeering at his family, then it's fine.
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wow thats really sad man plz go to his funeral be nice to his family and just try to move on ok.
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It seems self-evident that you never really wanted him to die, you simply thought you did. It's just another life lesson.

And DarkKnite, I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with more than a knowledge of Psychology 101 who would agree with you. Save those who have serious and incurable mental illnesses, nobody is brought to such a state simply by being mean, unlikable, and friendless. If he did kill himself, the real question is what made him so mean, unlikable, and friendless, anyway.
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And DarkKnite, I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with more than a knowledge of Psychology 101 who would agree with you. Save those who have serious and incurable mental illnesses, nobody is brought to such a state simply by being mean, unlikable, and friendless. If he did kill himself, the real question is what made him so mean, unlikable, and friendless, anyway.
He was probably mistreated growing up or just an *******.

If it's the first (which is probably more likely) I feel bad, but if there's one thing I can't stand its people who take their issues out on other people (other then the ones causing it). If he was really that bad of a person I still say he had it coming.
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Like I said, people don't become that bad unless they have a mental defect or some past problems. People generally have reasons for doing what they do...if they don't, we call that "insane".

Chances are that if any one of us had gone through what he did, we would have ended up more or less the same. So he may have had it coming, but really, any of us would have too.
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What if they just enjoy causing other people to be unhappy? Like a playground bully or something?
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What if they do...?
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Well you said they don't get that bad unless they have a severe mental defect - can they not just be sadistic? Or is sadism a mental defect? (serious question)
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Not to be an ass, but why're you suddenly so upset that he's dead? He was a pest.
I stopped reading your post there. He was a human, it's natural for him to be upset. I wouldn't be comfortable knowing someone who wasn't.
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Well you said they don't get that bad unless they have a severe mental defect - can they not just be sadistic? Or is sadism a mental defect? (serious question)
Sexual sadism is simply pleasure from consenting pain of a partner.

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Well you said they don't get that bad unless they have a severe mental defect - can they not just be sadistic? Or is sadism a mental defect? (serious question)
That's not exactly what I said.

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On the note of your previous example, you can google "bully behavior" and probably find 20 links to people talking about what makes bullies do what they do, and none of them are going to say they are just inherently mean people who deserve whatever they get in life.
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Like I said, people don't become that bad unless they have a mental defect or some past problems. People generally have reasons for doing what they do...if they don't, we call that "insane".

Chances are that if any one of us had gone through what he did, we would have ended up more or less the same. So he may have had it coming, but really, any of us would have too.
It explains it but it doesn't justify the behavior.
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I've hated this guy for a while now. I've never hated anyone before, and I have good reason to hate him... personal reasons, attacks against my family, etc. He's a really screwed up guy with no friends except for ones he makes online. I've tried to be nice to him, many times, but he keeps stabbing me in the back. I've come to the point where I would actually be happy if he died.

Well... he's committed suicide. Jeeze, I don't know where else to put this, so I'm putting it here. I'm not happy... I don't know what to feel. I'm kind of glad he's gone but... holy crap... I wish he hadn't have done that! I feel terrible... I am actually kinda sad...

I guess you never know what you're going to feel until it happens... :/
I had the same thing happen to a girl in school with me. She hated me and made fun of me and was just so rude up until high school, then she got in a car accident and died. I was sad because we were finally learning to not hate each other.

And I noticed growing up, that people who treat you like dirt, aren't very happy, in fact, they thrive on making people feel the way they do. It's sad, but for the most part its true. I was glad to know we ended our relationship on a semi-good note.
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It explains it but it doesn't justify the behavior.
Perhaps. But I can sympathize with him, as I think that if I were subjected to the experiences/lessons he went through, I would have turned out the same way.
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