Spirit Tracks might be the disappointment of the year

Originally Posted by Silver

ALLTP is a SNES game that was ported to the GBA. So it really doesn't count.

Yea, I believe it was first released sometime around 1992, and rereleased somewhere between, 1995 and 2004.

Originally Posted by Link367

I don't agree with much you say, I mean, give the game a chance. You haven't even played it yet. :O
I for one think it'll be a great game considering it's Zelda, I don't have really high expectations even though i am a hard-core gamer. But, come on, give the game a chance.

I'm not condeming it. I will give it a chance, and I bet I'll actually like it, but I dont like much of what I've seen so far.

Originally Posted by Silver

ALLTP is a SNES game that was ported to the GBA. So it really doesn't count.

I guess youre right

Originally Posted by GECK~101

I'm convinced that the train is the only way of travelling across the overworld, just like sailing was the only way for WW and PH

I would infinately prefer Epona

Originally Posted by Link367

Yea, I believe it was first released sometime around 1992, and rereleased somewhere between, 1995 and 2004.

You got the release date right, and It was re-released in about 2004(it is a GBA game, so it would be about 2001-2007 for the re-release range. I was just grouping all of the Game Boy systems into a general Game Boy catagory

I'm not gonna liw when I say I have mixed feeling about it. I'm excited that a new Zelda game is coming out. But it honestly just looks like PH with trains (how many times has this been said already). Nonetheless, i'm still going to buy it and attempt to enjoy Zelda.

All aboard the choochoo train!

I'm gunna play it. Even if it does suck.

Originally Posted by MrsBonJovi

I'm not gonna liw when I say I have mixed feeling about it. I'm excited that a new Zelda game is coming out. But it honestly just looks like PH with trains (how many times has this been said already). Nonetheless, i'm still going to buy it and attempt to enjoy Zelda.

Too many times.

Doesn't this argument pretty much apply to every Nintendo game shown at E3, with the exception of Other M?

I mean, New Super Mario Bros. Wii has new suits, Yoshi, and the Koopa Kids, but the new suits are mostly rehashes of suits in other games (penguin = ice Mario) or on-demand versions of current powers (propeller suit), Yoshi is nothing new, and Koopa Kids are obviously a half-assed effort to cash in on SMB3 and SMW (like TP was an effort to cash in on OoT). And that's just one of the "new" games.

That's not to say I won't like these games, just that they're being developed in much the same way.

hehe, i pre-ordered it loooong time ago...i think it was the same week it was announced.
(Norway)

Originally Posted by Jeff

but if the E3 impressions of Spirit Tracks mean anything

Well it's too bad they don't mean anything. One, I haven't read a single bad thing from professional outlets such as Wired and uh... Wired. Since that's the only one that matters. Two, the demo is about 15 minutes long. Hardly anything to go by.

Nothing about Spirit Tracks interests me. It's just Phantom Hourglass with a new coat of paint and a train, Nintendo isn't getting my money.

Originally Posted by OSM

Nothing about Spirit Tracks interests me. It's just Phantom Hourglass with a new coat of paint and a train, Nintendo isn't getting my money.

I'd play it just because it's a new Zelda game but you should wait until we know more about it before you say things like that.

I was about to post that I agree with OP (which I still do), but I'm also realizing that this is just a bizarre setting for a Zelda game. I imagined what playing through this world would feel like, with Link looking odd in his engineer uniform, conducting a train... The fact that it's out of place doesn't seem like such a bad thing, now that I think about it. I'm not sure I would've preferred another run-of-the-mill Zelda setting anymore. At the very least, I hope the dungeons aren't as dumbed down as they were in PH.

I'm going to withhold final pre-release judgement until we see more than just a demo of the train/dungeon/boss and a couple trailers, but my main concern is if you can get out of the train and walk from time to time or not.

I'm not getting it unless it is praised to hell and back by reviewers. Why would anybody even WANT to play it? Train aside, it's just PH without the ocean. Same engine, same graphics, same sound effects, and the same bosses. Not even the story is enough to make me want it. I'll just read the summary of it when its released.

Originally Posted by Seen

I'm not getting it unless it is praised to hell and back by reviewers. Why would anybody even WANT to play it? Train aside, it's just PH without the ocean. Same engine, same graphics, same sound effects, and the same bosses. Not even the story is enough to make me want it. I'll just read the summary of it when its released.

Why would anybody even WANT to play it? Because it's a Zelda game, good enough for me considering the series track record so far.

Just PH without the ocean? Well since the ocean was about 90% of the world in PH I consider that a pretty big change.

Same engine; correct, but it doesn't mean they can make improvements to the presentation just as MM did with OoT's engine.

Same sound effects; have pretty much been used in every game since Alttp and OoT(Link's "voice").

Same bosses; have we even seen more than one or two of them yet?

According to current reviews it uses pacing never used in Zelda that makes it keep your intrest as well as unquie puzzles in dungeons it doesn't keep reusing at Nasua, So right there it sounds a vast improvement on PH.

Originally Posted by Celvantis

According to current reviews it uses pacing never used in Zelda that makes it keep your intrest as well as unquie puzzles in dungeons it doesn't keep reusing at Nasua, So right there it sounds a vast improvement on PH.

Errrh, what reviews? Do you have any links?

Nintendo Magazine. it also has a segment on Zelda Wii

Originally Posted by LostLantern

Why would anybody even WANT to play it? Because it's a Zelda game, good enough for me considering the series track record so far.

True enough, true enough.

Just PH without the ocean? Well since the ocean was about 90% of the world in PH I consider that a pretty big change.

It's just replaced with a field. That's it.

Same engine; correct, but it doesn't mean they can make improvements to the presentation just as MM did with OoT's engine.

Yeah, but WHERE is that improvement to the presentation in ST? It looks the exact same as PH.

Same sound effects; have pretty much been used in every game since Alttp and OoT(Link's "voice").

You do know that WW Link and OOT child Link have different voice actors? They could also have just have the actor redo the grunts differently like they did in MM.

Same bosses; have we even seen more than one or two of them yet?

According to what people are saying, it works the exact same way as the boss from PH. Nothing different. At all. Other bosses in Zelda I can remember have at least ONE big difference.

In about a year's time, I reckon about 98% of the people *****ing about this game now will deem it the best Zelda game so far.

Shut up and stop critisising the game just because it's got trains in it. While I agree Nintendo are rapidly going downhill with all the new stupid wiifit stuff, I appreciate any little bit of Zelda we can get from them, regardless of whether it's not up to the standards of OoT. It's difficult for them to live up to OoT's standards, and I honestly like the fact that while I'm waiting for the 2011 big Zelda, I've got ST's to warm me up and keep me entertained on the bus to school.

Originally Posted by Seen

It's just replaced with a field. That's it.

Well, as long as we're allowed to get more room to move in I'm down with that. If not... well, f*** it, they don't have an excuse this time.

Yeah, but WHERE is that improvement to the presentation in ST? It looks the exact same as PH.

Like MM did. Even then, I wouldn't hope to see improvements graphically, it'll probably be much the same.

You do know that WW Link and OOT child Link have different voice actors? They could also have just have the actor redo the grunts differently like they did in MM.

Yeah but not many people noticed (or cared) about the differences between the grunts in OoT and MM, did they? Other sound effects stayed much the same, except for those new enemies (obviously), so I reckon we'll at least see some new stuff in that area.

According to what people are saying, it works the exact same way as the boss from PH. Nothing different. At all. Other bosses in Zelda I can remember have at least ONE big difference.

What boss in PH requires that particular item with that particular use?