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Old 03-22-2009, 08:54 PM
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PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

So I've played and beaten PH twice.
Do you see PH as doing ANYTHING to advance the story line? In the end it seems to me to be as nothing has changed for Link and Tetra. They gained no powers, found nothing new, and Link didn't really get anything that would help him in a later quest. You could argue that the hour glass could be used later but to me since it's empty (if I remember right) it would seem pretty useless. I'm just wondering if maybe I missed something in the game that made it worth playing story plot wise rather than just being a fun game.
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Old 03-22-2009, 09:04 PM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

You see Linebacks ship at the end. They might adventure together onday that's all I got out of the ending. Actuall the ending is pretty twisted. Saying it was only ten minutes.
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Old 03-22-2009, 09:07 PM
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I never really knew what to think of seeing his ship. I could argue it was as much Link going crazy as Linebeck really being there. I wasn't able to decide on it. It was pretty twisted to say the least
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Old 03-22-2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

I hope some kind of sequel or Zelda games build on the ending of PH with Linebeck sailing away. I really would like to see him again.
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:08 PM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

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I hope some kind of sequel or Zelda games build on the ending of PH with Linebeck sailing away. I really would like to see him again.
This. I got emotional at that ending.
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:20 PM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

I think something in one of the games that talks about Linebeck would be pretty cool. Even it's just somebody talking about him doing something to show he is less greedy and more Link like. I think that would be pretty sweet really.
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:44 PM
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I think something in one of the games that talks about Linebeck would be pretty cool. Even it's just somebody talking about him doing something to show he is less greedy and more Link like. I think that would be pretty sweet really.
NO. Linebeck's greedy personality and not just being a generic hero character is one of the main things I liked about Phourglass.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:04 AM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

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So I've played and beaten PH twice.
Do you see PH as doing ANYTHING to advance the story line? In the end it seems to me to be as nothing has changed for Link and Tetra. They gained no powers, found nothing new, and Link didn't really get anything that would help him in a later quest. You could argue that the hour glass could be used later but to me since it's empty (if I remember right) it would seem pretty useless. I'm just wondering if maybe I missed something in the game that made it worth playing story plot wise rather than just being a fun game.
Did links awakening change anything? No. An adventure is an adventure, it dosent have to be so awesome it cures cancer. Its just some fun that has a little story to it.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:40 AM
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Yeah, kymeric is right. PH is pure side story. Nothing more. It doesn't really add anything to the timeline or the overall arc of the series.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:20 PM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

Really whats the BIG story after windwaker? Either finding a new homeland or the Deku Tree reclaiming hyrule from the ocean. Either of those wouldnt happen in The Hero of the winds lifetime imho. Its gonna take forever to dry up the ocean with trees. And if they find a new land they have to a) move everyone there which will take YEARS and then b) settle the wild and hopefully unoccupied land which could have ANYTHING on it. If theyre unlucky itll have its own people and then u got a fight on ur hands.
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Old 03-30-2009, 09:58 AM
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The big story is what we all expected at the end of windwaker. The triforce peeling back the ocean and Hyrule being restored. Thats why the ending of Hyrule being washed away shocked us, the hero didnt save hyrule. What this ment is that the great sea was the world now, Links role as a hero is to protect the Great Sea, and that Hyrule had long passed.

Its like Captain America fighting to the death to restore Atlantis. Its the wrong time and place. Hes about AMERICA not a kingdom thats been gone for Epochs of time.

I think they should preserve the Great Sea mythos. But if they want to tell a riviting second part of TWW they should build a story on the destruction of the great sea and the restoration of hyrule. Maybe a reopening of the Sacred Realm as a new Hyrule. Anyone who wants out could go there, but who would want to. All anyone alive has ever know is ocean, would you leave your home for somewhere soo different? My town is northern US, i would never go live in a desert.
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:09 AM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

The ending of PH was rather...unsatisfying...

It's a true fact that Link always sets out on a quest to save Hyrule, or in this case, the Great Sea. But in PH he just wanted to save Tetra, followed by defeating the bad guy responsible for it. By saving Tetra, he also saved the world. In WindWaker, he set out to save his sister, ended up in a quest to save the Great Sea, and only saving his sister by means of doing so.

All Link did in PH was chasing a ghost ship until the end of the game...
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:42 AM
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The ending of PH was rather...unsatisfying...

It's a true fact that Link always sets out on a quest to save Hyrule, or in this case, the Great Sea. But in PH he just wanted to save Tetra, followed by defeating the bad guy responsible for it. By saving Tetra, he also saved the world. In WindWaker, he set out to save his sister, ended up in a quest to save the Great Sea, and only saving his sister by means of doing so.

All Link did in PH was chasing a ghost ship until the end of the game...
To be honest, I'm not really seeing how PH was all that different than WW?

In both games, he began by seeking to rescue only a single person close to him (Aryll in WW, Tetra in PH)--and in the process ended up on a quest to save the whole Great Sea from a much larger menace (Ganondorf in WW, Bellum in PH).

Honestly, I rather liked the symmetry between the two games at this point.
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:11 PM
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

Ganondorf is known to be a bigger threat than the only-just-introduced Bellum. Maybe that's why i liked WindWaker more. PH just didn't give me the feeling you saved the world, you know?

That, and the WindWaker plot is a direct sequel to OoT. PH had a plot, but it wasn't connected to other games.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:18 PM
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I don't mind a game that's just fun. PH was just fun and I'm fine with that. I was more asking if I had missed something in it that made it more than just another LA (which was a great game btw). I like a feeling of satisfaction when I beat a game plot wise, and PH (LA too) just lacked in that department. Doesn't make them less of a good game, just not quite as much fun after you beat it/
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Re: PH ending "questions" *spoilers*

The game is part of their travels in finding a new home. In Link's Awakening you don't see Link getting new powers but he was simply there to help the Windfish. In MM Link was there to stop the moon but it had nothing to do with finding Navi. You have lots of games in the series that just happen for a reason simply because there is someone that needs help so is it with this game: The Ocean King needs help and that's all there is. The oracle series follow this same pattern too.

This by all means does not make the game bad or less magnificent than any of the games that take part in Hyrule. In my opinion the best Zelda games are MM and then LA and then ALttP and the top 2 games happen simply because there is other places that need a hero too and they are magnificent games with worlds full of life and sides to them that Hyrule doesn't have and those games only work so well because they are not in Hyrule.
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Ahem! Do you happen to remember that Ganondorf was turned to stone by the Master Sword? And Bellum turned Tetra to stone, right? It's that simple, really. Bellum probably brought Ganondorf back to life before his unfair defeat...
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