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Old 04-04-2005, 02:20 PM
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LA was weak

I think LA is overatted. I mean come on. That's the only zelda game that didn't have almost anything to do with zelda or Hyrule. It was on some island with a fat fish. By the way the nightmares were easy as hell.
another thing is they had Mario, Yoshi and other stuff in there. How lame is that. this suppose to be zelda. If i want to play Mario I'll play.
Believe me, I have fond memories of this game. This game started all of the handheld zelda games, it was the first zelda game with the compass and it started the trading sequence. Even though I still think it's overatted. Who agrees with me? please feel free to voice you opinion.
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Re: LA was weak

I haven't played ot yet, but I'm pretty sure ALttP had a compass. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: LA was weak

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I haven't played ot yet, but I'm pretty sure ALttP had a compass. Correct me if I'm wrong.
well according to LA it said that the compass is a new feature which shows where treasure is.
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: LA was weak

I agree, I think the story line was terrible.
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:44 PM
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Re: LA was weak

I think you're all a bunch of fools with absolutely no appreciation of quality. LA's story has by far the most depth and emotion to it than any of the others. Marin's characters is one of the most developed ones in the entire series. Koholint Island, the Windfish, the art, the egg, Mount Tamaranch, the story and dreams... the quirky things, like Animal village and the numerous Mario cameos... LA was a stylistic and atmospheric masterpiece, and the music was damned good. And that's not even mentioning the gameplay, which is wonderful.

I pity those of you who could not see this game for the masterpiece it is. You're missing out.

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well according to LA it said that the compass is a new feature which shows where treasure is.
The compass had a new feature, the compass itself wasn't the new feature. The new feature was that it would play a tone in any room that had a hidden key in it.
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:48 PM
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Re: LA was weak

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I think you're all a bunch of fools with absolutely no appreciation of quality. LA's story has by far the most depth and emotion to it than any of the others. Marin's characters is one of the most developed ones in the entire series. Koholint Island, the Windfish, the art, the egg, Mount Tamaranch, the story and dreams... the quirky things, like Animal village and the numerous Mario cameos... LA was a stylistic and atmospheric masterpiece, and the music was damned good. And that's not even mentioning the gameplay, which is wonderful.

I pity those of you who could not see this game for the masterpiece it is. You're missing out.
I see what you mean it does have dam good music, but it has Mario in it man. That's just stupid. Oh yeah and a fat fish that can fly and hey look at that another owl that can help you. The whole game was a "dream". that just pissed me off. It has nothing to do with zelda so why is it called "the legend of zelda?'
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:51 PM
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Re: LA was weak

You missed the entire point of the story. If all you want is a game that features Link, Zelda, the Triforce, and a straightforward quest, go back to LttP or OoT.

And the Mario cameos were not only cool and worth a laugh or two, but greatly contributed to the overall wierdness of Koholint island. The wierdness, the oddness, the sense that you're in some sort of crazy dream, is the very source of LA's masterful atmosphere.
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:57 PM
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Re: LA was weak

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I think LA is overatted.
By who? No one overrates LA. On ZU itself, L-o-s and I are the most vocal supporters of the game that I have seen. We don't speak for the community at large. Please show me the general opinion that "overrates" LA...

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I mean come on. That's the only zelda game that didn't have almost anything to do with zelda or Hyrule. It was on some island with a fat fish. By the way the nightmares were easy as hell.
Why does that even matter? Sure they are hallmarks of the game, but we can't be regurgitating the same plot and theme and setting in every game. It would completely ruin the series. Yes, the nightmares were easy. No, Zelda bosses in general are never hard. (OOT was a cake walk. By your logic, worst. game. evar?)

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another thing is they had Mario, Yoshi and other stuff in there. How lame is that. this suppose to be zelda. If i want to play Mario I'll play.
... if the tiny cameos from mario annoy you that much, please seek psychological help. The Yoshi doll you collect from the crane shop, and then, what? Trade it? You have it for a minute and you do nothing with it. And you just say a line or two below it that you like the trading sequence, but you mysteriously hated that Yoshi doll. And if you wanted to play Mario, you'd expect to have platforming and action! Not adventure and mild role playing. A mario cameo does not a mario game make.

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Believe me, I have fond memories of this game. This game started all of the handheld zelda games, it was the first zelda game with the compass and it started the trading sequence. Even though I still think it's overatted. Who agrees with me? please feel free to voice you opinion.
It is severely underrated in the opinions of Zelda fans, and in the gaming community at large.

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I pity those of you who could not see this game for the masterpiece it is. You're missing out.
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Old 04-04-2005, 03:02 PM
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Re: LA was weak

You all are too much. It is OVERATTED. that why they came out with LA DX because they thought it was good. And the thing about Mario it's like putting Tommy Versetti from GTA 4 in Halo. No matter what you all say more people love OoT more than any other zelda game and it will always be like that.
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Old 04-04-2005, 03:21 PM
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You all are too much. It is OVERATTED. that why they came out with LA DX because they thought it was good.
They came out with DX because Nintendo likes whoring their older games for money. (Sorry, couldn't have put it any more lightly...) And just because you think a game is good, doesn't logically connect to it being overrated. Naturally, though, you'd want to check the extensive list of games that Nintendo has made ports of, or minor updates to, and released on the Gamebody. You know as well as I do that the Gameboy Advance has an insane number of ports. Is every one of those games overrated?

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And the thing about Mario it's like putting Tommy Versetti from GTA 4 in Halo.
No it wouldn't be... first because you've mixed up your analogies completely. Halo is the flagship title of the Xbox, therefore you would need to transplant Master Chief into another Xbox game to get the same effect (if we are actually looking for a valid analogy). GTA is not a franchise exclusive to Xbox, so it's a poor example. But, getting down to the real issue, a cameo is a cameo. If you were fighting baddies with Mario, I'd see your concern. Otherwise, such a small, inconsequential cameo, which was done so utterly tastefully, you're just making a mountain out of a molehill. (Let's not forget though that when all the top Nintendo characters come together in a game like SSBM it is an awesome game .)

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No matter what you all say more people love OoT more than any other zelda game and it will always be like that.
This is bizarre. According to you LA is overrated, but people will always like OOT more. You've just shot yourself in the toe. People don't popularly regard LA as a great game. It's not even on the radar screen. You've said it yourself, OOT is more popular. (And you seem to be under the misconeption that L-o-s and I are trying to argue people away from liking OOT and into liking LA. That isn't it at all. It's not an either or prospect for us. We want people to appreciate LA as well as the rest of the series.)
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Old 04-04-2005, 03:58 PM
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Re: LA was weak

I agree with HeroOfTime5, Link's Awakening seems to get more respect than it deserves by some people, but yet it seems to be unnoticed. I knew Shadow would clash with your opinions about this game, but I don't think it's that bad. I actually think it's pretty good and original, and not to mention very interesting.

I can understand how you can consider it one of the best, it is after all one of those good old Zelda games, and nostalgia wins many people's hearts. I would also defend a game that few people appreciate, I hate seeing good games standing in the shadows. They need to be played.
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Old 04-04-2005, 04:10 PM
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Re: LA was weak

I like LA! I think the story line was very unique and cool.
One thing I hated though was the Mario characters, other than that though, it's a fine game...well what Iv'e played of it so far anyway...
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Old 04-04-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: LA was weak

Thank you William Zelda4ever. I'm not the only one that thinks so. I must correct you bobslob you right that's why they did make LA DX and they chose that game because everyone said it's good and stuff. It may sound like I hate this game but that is incorrect. Believe this is one of my favorite games but i don't like it like i do like OoT.

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This is bizarre. According to you LA is overrated, but people will always like OOT more. You've just shot yourself in the toe. People don't popularly regard LA as a great game. It's not even on the radar screen. You've said it yourself, OOT is more popular. (And you seem to be under the misconeption that L-o-s and I are trying to argue people away from liking OOT and into liking LA. That isn't it at all. It's not an either or prospect for us. We want people to appreciate LA as well as the rest of the series.)
It may sound like i contradicted myself but if you think about it it's true. More people do like OoT. LA is up there with TWW and MM but if you ask most people they don't believe it derserves (sp) to be up there. Some may consider to be in the middle like me. I hope that clears up the chaos.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:33 PM
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Re: LA was weak

LA was a great game. So it has some cameos? Big deal. Atleast it's a cameo from the person who made both characters. Not to mention it has a uniqeness to it that i belive people do not appreciate.

So, OoT was better? I wouldn't say that. OoT was the easiest zelda i have ever played, and that includes masterquest. To me the challenge adds to the atmospere, and although OoTs world was nicely done, it was to easy... way to easy.

With all that said, I think people need to open their minds more and look at the feel of the game over all, and not judge a game over some cameos.

Besides, the last I checked the devs never stated once that zelda was doomed to the same recycled world over and over again. And I hope that they add something to the next zelda that makes it uniqe, and not the same game redone with diffrent mosters and diffrent puzzels...

Kinda funny though, MM gets more credit than LA, in most cases... and it has absolutly nothing to do with hyrule. Termina i think the place is called?

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Old 04-04-2005, 08:43 PM
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Re: LA was weak

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You missed the entire point of the story. If all you want is a game that features Link, Zelda, the Triforce, and a straightforward quest, go back to LttP or OoT.

And the Mario cameos were not only cool and worth a laugh or two, but greatly contributed to the overall wierdness of Koholint island. The wierdness, the oddness, the sense that you're in some sort of crazy dream, is the very source of LA's masterful atmosphere.
That's a good point. Ever notice that in your own dreams, people come into it out of context?

For example, you may have a dream that your hanging out with your freinds at mcdonalds or something, but then all of a sudden your long dead aunt hilda comes into it and drags you home or soemthing. I think that is what Nintendo was trying to aim at with it.
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:06 PM
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Re: LA was weak

You know, I dislike fools who spew that word left and right, carrying the misinformed notion that "overrated" means "I don't like it".

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another thing is they had Mario, Yoshi and other stuff in there. How lame is that. this suppose to be zelda. If i want to play Mario I'll play.
I won't elaborate any further than Bob already has.

One suggestion, though. I strongly recommend you don't play Super Mario RPG. Link has a cameo in that game, and you know - it's a Mario game. If you wanted to play a game with Link in it, you'd play Zelda, right? Exactly. Just stay away from SMRPG, it's probably "overrated", anyways.

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I mean come on. That's the only zelda game that didn't have almost anything to do with zelda or Hyrule.
That's an ideal reason to dislike the game. Kudos.

Oh, wait. I seem to recall that in Majora's Mask, Zelda made no appearance at all, nor did it have anything to do with Hyrule. If memory serves, the game took place in another world named Termina, did it not? I suppose you find Majora's Mask to be overrated as well?

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You all are too much. It is OVERATTED. that why they came out with LA DX because they thought it was good.
Okay. So Link's Awakening saw a second release with color and an added dungeon.

What did Ocarina of Time receive? Two re-releases, one of them giving every dungeon layout a complete re-vamp? Based on your argument, Ocarina of Time is twice as "overrated" as Link's Awakening, seeing as it has double the number or re-releases.

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LA is up there with TWW and MM but if you ask most people they don't believe it derserves (sp) to be up there.
Who are "most people"? How many people have you questioned on this matter? Ten, perhaps? Or did you read a miasma of forum posts saying "LA is sux I leik Oot bettar lol"?

I've not met a single person who happens to be a fan of the series, yet finds Link's Awakening to be "overrated". I require sources for your claim. Link me to something, if you would be so kind.

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By who? No one overrates LA. On ZU itself, L-o-s and I are the most vocal supporters of the game that I have seen. We don't speak for the community at large. Please show me the general opinion that "overrates" LA...
I am by no means an avid vocal supporter, as I tend to stray away from these sections - I happened in here upon seeing the thread title on the index. Regardless, I've always revered Link's Awakening as one of the greatest and most beautiful Zelda titles to date. First one I ever played, too. Ah the memories.

So, I suppose I somewhat join the ranks? Or something to that extent.

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I pity those of you who could not see this game for the masterpiece it is. You're missing out.
Most definately.
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