Dog Dog 123's Homeroom (MSPaint)

Mini-Link - Unfortunately, no, it didn't turn out right. If you look, you can still see the checkerboard pattern on it. Which means one of two things.

1. You didn't resize anything before sliding stuff back and forth to apply the pattern.
2. You resized the two images AND the pattern, rather then just the one.

These both have the same checkerboard effect in the end, and it's unfortunately not what you're going for. If you zoom in on that piece, you can see that the pictures are still seperate. You have half the pixels from one and half from the other. Now, zoom in on the example from that thread. You can't see a checkerboard. Each pixel is actually half the color of each picture.

Could it be either of those two problems?


3B:

I couldn't get this one to work right...

Good. Learn to spot your mistakes. Uh, current problem, cut closer to the image. Right now there's a big black blob. That big black blob will still be there when you put it in with the other image, and it probably won't look too good. Try cutting closer.

And did you try to resize, put in Word, resize, and then put it back in Paint? The hard edges along the logo look like you just used Paint.

EDIT: Um...yeah, LoL, I saw it.
EDIT2: I need a break from Paint.

1. Yes, I figured you did. But for when there are more students, it's harder to keep track. So I decided to start now.
2. Take your time. I usually wait a week before I start hunting for people.

Flavoi - See post #19.

Originally Posted by Dog Dog 123

Mini-Link - Unfortunately, no, it didn't turn out right. If you look, you can still see the checkerboard pattern on it. Which means one of two things.

Yeah, I knew they didn't...I can't say why I put these up here.

1. You didn't resize anything before sliding stuff back and forth to apply the pattern.
2. You resized the two images AND the pattern, rather then just the one.

Seems like I need to read the instructions closer.

These both have the same checkerboard effect in the end, and it's unfortunately not what you're going for. If you zoom in on that piece, you can see that the pictures are still seperate. You have half the pixels from one and half from the other. Now, zoom in on the example from that thread. You can't see a checkerboard. Each pixel is actually half the color of each picture.

Hm...

Could it be either of those two problems?

Quite possibly yes.

Good. Learn to spot your mistakes. Uh, current problem, cut closer to the image. Right now there's a big black blob. That big black blob will still be there when you put it in with the other image, and it probably won't look too good. Try cutting closer.

I'm going to try a different picture anyway.

And did you try to resize, put in Word, resize, and then put it back in Paint? The hard edges along the logo look like you just used Paint.

When I resized it in Word, it didn't seem to change, I'll just have to try again.

1. Yes, I figured you did. But for when there are more students, it's harder to keep track. So I decided to start now.

It's all good.

2. Take your time. I usually wait a week before I start hunting for people.

I just mean that after a while working with MS Paint get frustrating, especially, as you say in most of the tutorials, when Undo only holds 3.


I'm off to fix my homework!

EDIT: I agree, Vista Paint is very annoying.

I just mean that after a while working with MS Paint get frustrating, especially, as you say in most of the tutorials, when Undo only holds 3.

Oh, sorry. I really need to start editting tutorials to fit Vista. Serveral things:
1. Undo now holds up to 10 steps. Much more helpful.
2. When you use resize to make a picture bigger, either copy (ctrl+c) or drop the picture on the form and then reselect it. If you make a selection bigger and then move it, it crops the picture down to the size it was before resizing. Pretty much, it cuts off three fourths of the picture.

Seems like I need to read the instructions closer.

Sorry, most of my explainations are rather wordy. It drives me crazy when peeople give one line steps that don't explain how to actually do things. So I do my best to explain what to do, how to do it, and why it works.

Originally Posted by Dog Dog 123

1. Undo now holds up to 10 steps. Much more helpful.
2. When you use resize to make a picture bigger, either copy (ctrl+c) or drop the picture on the form and then reselect it. If you make a selection bigger and then move it, it crops the picture down to the size it was before resizing. Pretty much, it cuts off three fourths of the picture.

1. Well, I'm used to working with Paint on 95, so I usually only use 3 anyway.
2. I found the solution to that. Click away from it before moving it, then reselect it. It only crops when you try to move it.

My schedule is iffy for a while, so stay tuned ;0

Originally Posted by Flavoi

My schedule is iffy for a while, so stay tuned ;0

Ok! Sorry if i make you feel bad because I'm doing these so fast.
I've worked with MSPaint for a while so I know the basics. These are just little tips and hints for me.

Flavoi - Don't worry, I know how that is. Whenever you get around to it, that's good.
Last assignment: Post #19.

Mini-Link - Good job, now it looks right. However, you didn't go along the edges carefully enough. For the red logo, you need to cut closer to the edges, otherwise you get white specks along the edges. (I believe the generally used incorrect term for cuttings things out is render.) Generally the fastest way to check this is to change the color behind it. Two ways to do that:

1. Select different color. If the background had been white, paint it black.
2. Draw a big black square. Set the secondary color to white. Select the picture using the Select tool. Click the transperant option, then drag it over the square. Then the color will be different and you don't have to paint all the little holes.

Then look to see which spots don't blend. Get rid of all the white spots. This will give the final piece a more fluid look.

So, (surprise surprise!) try again, and cut the edges closer. You don't have to do both opacity and smooth edges for it, just go ahead and pick one.

Originally Posted by Dog Dog 123

Mini-Link - Good job, now it looks right. However, you didn't go along the edges carefully enough. For the red logo, you need to cut closer to the edges, otherwise you get white specks along the edges. (I believe the generally used incorrect term for cuttings things out is render.) Generally the fastest way to check this is to change the color behind it.

See, the thing that confused me about this one, is that the original background color on the logo, was black. So I don't understand how it got that way.

Mini-Link -

See, the thing that confused me about this one, is that the original background color on the logo, was black. So I don't understand how it got that way.

Really? Hmm. I can think of three ways to do that to a picture.

1. Did you make the background white, then put it in word, then move it back?
2. Did you make the background white, then resize the picture?
3. Did you save the picture at .jpg or something like that?

Flavoi - Last assignment in post #19.

Originally Posted by Dog Dog 123

Mini-Link -


Really? Hmm. I can think of three ways to do that to a picture.

1. Did you make the background white, then put it in word, then move it back?
2. Did you make the background white, then resize the picture?
3. Did you save the picture at .jpg or something like that?

...
*facepalm*
Yeah sure enough. I changed the background to white then 200%ed it.

You know what. I changed the background to white then 200%ed it.

No, making it bigger in Paint wouldn't have done that. When you 200% something, it just makes each pixel into 4. No blur. If you make it smaller, or resize in Word, it adds a blur.

Hmm... that's weird.

Do you still have the original image? (Just to make sure that's not the problem.)

I figured it out. Notice how the white spots aren't on the out side edge of it?
The only places were the white spots are, are the places closed in by the red. So when I changed the background, I didn't change the inside.

Mini-Link -

I figured it out. Notice how the white spots aren't on the out side edge of it?
The only places were the white spots are, are the places closed in by the red. So when I changed the background, I didn't change the inside.

Alrighty. So, now you know that went wrong. Will you go try and make it work out correctly now?

Flavoi - Last assignment in post #19.

Originally Posted by Dog Dog 123

Alrighty. So, now you know that went wrong. Will you go try and make it work out correctly now?

*salutes*
SIR, YES, SIR!

EDIT: Here, I did a completely different theme.
Assignment 3-A: Opacity (Redone Again)

Assignment 3-B: Smooth Edges (Redone Again)


I am extremely happy with the results, except for the second one, I resized in Word, but it still isn't smooth.

I figured out what is was doing wrong (i failed again, but deleted it). When i hit prt scrn, and pasted back into paint, i got this.
EDIT: Deleted it. If you want to see it, ask

Is there a better way?

Mini-Link - Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you. Got caught up in things. Anyways...

Yes, overlaying looks perfect. As for the second one, the edges didn't smooth when you resized it? You doubled it in Paint, then put it in Word, then used print screen to move it back? Are you sure you didn't skip a step? And if you resized one of them in the wrong program, that might've caused a problem.

Flavoi - No, it's supposed to look like that. If you try to copy/paste out of Word, the colors get all funky. And it looks bad. So yeah, you were doing it right. By the way, when the picture is in word, be careful not to resize it. If you drag the corners of the box at all then it won't line up correctly when you go back to Paint.

By the way, when the picture is in word, be careful not to resize it. If you drag the corners of the box at all then it won't line up correctly when you go back to Paint.

I didn't touch it on that one, it did it by itself...

may I ask why it is necessary to have MS word?
I don't have it at home, but I have it on most of the computers at my work.
would I be able to get by with using MS word as need be on my work computers, or will I need it a lot? also, keep in mind I can't download any programs onto the work computers.

I'm thinking about joining the class but I'm still trying to decide.

Oh no! My paint won't work now. Ill look into it...

Margar -

may I ask why it is necessary to have MS word?
I don't have it at home, but I have it on most of the computers at my work.
would I be able to get by with using MS word as need be on my work computers, or will I need it a lot? also, keep in mind I can't download any programs onto the work computers.

Unless you're using Vista, Paint can't resize images. Well, it tries to, but it doesn't do it correctly. With Word, the colors actually blur together and it doesn't just cut out half the picture. It's fairly handy. Pretty much, you need it for lightening the ocassional picture and for anytime you try to overlay one image ontop of another.

But generally for the things that require resizing, it's only at the end that you need Word. So if you did want to join, you could stick it in the program at work, resize, and be done fairly quickly.

(Oh, and don't worry about not being able to download programs. That's kinda what this is based around. Paint, and other common comp. programs.)

Mini-Link - Post #36.

Flavoi - What's wrong with it? What's not working?