Deku Tree in tWW different to the sprout from OoT?

Well, as much as I might believe that the Deku Sprout from OoT slowly grows to be the Great Deku Tree in tWW, I found something pretty interesting while browsing through the updated Wind Waker Quote FAQ over at Zelda Legends.

In the quote FAQ, this appears in the Nintendo Gallery bit. So, if you have the full Nintendo Gallery on Wind Waker, you can also check it out there:

Fado
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Birthplace: Kokiri Forest
Personality: Somewhat saucy

Long, long ago the Kokiri sage, Fado,
offered up his prayers in the Wind Temple
so that the Master Sword would continue to
house the power to repel evil.

Notice the specific reference to being born in the Kokiri Forest.

Deku Tree
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Birthplace: The Forest Haven

The Deku Tree is both an earth spirit and
the guardian of the forest. He has lived
for many long years, so his wisdom is vast.

However, since his roots run deep into the
earth, he cannot move. As a result, he is
often afflicted by parasitic enemies...

Hmm... interesting. I'm pretty sure the Deku Sprout was born in the Kokiri Forest too.

Yes, very. I had originally thought that the Deku Tree in TWW was from the Kokiri Forest... but, you cannot overlook the fact that Forest Haven and the Kokiri Forest are nearly one and the same. They are one top of each other on the map. Maybe, that Sprout did not grow into the Deku Tree right away(Sorry if I am not correct on this, I haven't played much of OoT.), maybe... it took until the world had been flooded to get a new one? That would mean by the time it was able to grow/had grown, Forest Haven had replaced the Kokiri Forest.

I think that the Deku Tree is in fact the Deku Sprout. Seeing as if Hyrule got flooded...Kokiri Forest could've always stayed up, with Kokiri later evolving to Koroks, and the Deku Tree being how it is...

Correct me if I'm wrong, and as how i've only gone through WW once I very well could be, but when the Deku Tree saw Link and his green clothes didn't he start speaking in like the old language or something because it reminded him of it? That could be an indication that he is indeed the Deku Sprout from the Kokiri Forest and remembers the either Link himself or just some of the Kokiri.

Originally posted by LittleLostFairy
Correct me if I'm wrong, and as how i've only gone through WW once I very well could be, but when the Deku Tree saw Link and his green clothes didn't he start speaking in like the old language or something because it reminded him of it? That could be an indication that he is indeed the Deku Sprout from the Kokiri Forest and remembers the either Link himself or just some of the Kokiri.

I completely agree with you. That's a good point, and the Deku Tree from the WW is the sprout from OoT.

Stupid TWW tree... you'd've never found the Great Deku Tree getting his roots kicked by ChuChus...

Anyway, yeah, I'm pretty sure it is supposed to be the Sprout (one could hypothesise that it isn't & that there's a Maku Tree type thing going on, but...). The birthplace thing could be resolved by saying that that little clearing where the Great Deku Tree was seen in OoT is called the Forest Haven & was a place within the Kokiri Forest. The term had, with the Kokiri Forest submerged and the Haven alone remaining to grow, come to cover the whole area by the time of TWW.

I had thought that the big 'ole tree hollow that dominated the "island" was possibly supposed to be the Great Deku Tree's husk, anyway? Bit unlikely seeming at first, given that it is hardly reminiscent of the guy (tree...) in OoT, but then if TWW can slap gigantic mountains that weren't there before all over the place (as seen from inside Hyrule's bubble...and from the big bunch of islands that are all over the place and that must in fact be mountaintops) then it isn't totally out of the question.

It could be possible that the hollowed tree is the great deku tree's husk, but the sprout in ww was huge, most likely a little bigger than the old deku tree. so why is the husk so much bigger?

I think it was the Deku sprout from OoT. It looked strange dident it? personaly I thought it looked wrong for the Great Deku Tree, I had the image he was a calm and wise errmm tree!
The big chin and tooth sticking out was just not him!

I know it seems as though the Great Deku Tree seemed to know Link in tWW. But does that matter? Lil' Mr. Deku Sprout knew quite a fair bit about you and various legends when the bugger popped out of the ground. It seems that no matter what generation of GDT it is, they still hold all the knowledge of the previous.

All Kokiri's come from the Deku Tree, as I have come to believe... so logically wouldn't all the Koroks be mentioned as being born in the Kokiri forest? Why the hell was Mado?

Of course, I could be looking into this too far, but I still find it interesting.

Originally posted by OldBeane
I know it seems as though the Great Deku Tree seemed to know Link in tWW. But does that matter? Lil' Mr. Deku Sprout knew quite a fair bit about you and various legends when the bugger popped out of the ground. It seems that no matter what generation of GDT it is, they still hold all the knowledge of the previous.

All Kokiri's come from the Deku Tree, as I have come to believe... so logically wouldn't all the Koroks be mentioned as being born in the Kokiri forest? Why the hell was Mado?

Of course, I could be looking into this too far, but I still find it interesting.

I have a simple answer. The names of places change over time, as seen in WW. Now this may not seem important but this is how it works: Fado was born in Forest haven while it was still called Kokiri Forest, thus that is what his statue says. But the Great Deku tree didn't become a Tree (as opposed to a sprout.) untill after the name was changed to Forest Haven. Thus they were born in the same place at diffirent times so have diffirent Locations.

Originally posted by silver arrow
It could be possible that the hollowed tree is the great deku tree's husk, but the sprout in ww was huge, most likely a little bigger than the old deku tree. so why is the husk so much bigger?

Well, presumably the GDT isn't a tardiss, so the stuff from "Inside the Great Deku Tree" had to be somewhere inside him. Maybe it was bellowground and has become exposed come TWW, or maybe they just decided to change him to being far huger than OoT showed him (again, if they can start dumping mountains all over OoT's landscape, then I can see how they might similarly ignore the GDT's OoT dimensions).

Originally posted by Ganon_dwarf
Fado was born in Forest haven while it was still called Kokiri Forest

I see my old thread about my theory of Forest Haven being the old Kokiri Forest/Village really was a great one

I think... it could be either but it doesn't matter either way. Yes, the evidence suggests a different location, but then maybe the designers just absent-mindedly cocked-up and if they intended the Sprout in OoT to be differrent to the Tree in TWW, they could have made it more obvious. But... nah, it doesn't really matter.

Link reminding him of old times doesn't mean it was the deku sprout, any deku tree that saw the kokiri in their child-like state instead of the koroks would think of old times when looking at those clothes. All the Kokiri wore that green outfit, not just Link.

yeh thats what I thought anyway Coby1

Yes but when you play the seconf quest you'll see that the Deku tree calls you "Hero of time" Or atleast "Hero". So,there.

Also, anyone notice how the branch placement on the WW deku tree is similar to the sprouts in OoT.. Coincidence? Or not coincidence?

Sigve: Also, anyone notice how the branch placement on the WW deku tree is similar to the sprouts in OoT.. Coincidence? Or not coincidence?

I was going to say that...There are several similarities among them:
1) Both speak old language
2) Both have branch on top that is much thinner in proportion to the face
3) Both have mouth situated high up on face(sprout position causing to think he has a large chin, GDT pretty obvious)

Of course, both also know lots of stuff, although tWW one lets you ask questions.

Mr. Groovemeister, yeah it could've been a cock-up. Who cares? The ending of Ocarina of Time was the biggest cock-up ever and still gets talked about.

Of course, you prolly mean what effect or relevance would it have on any other larger theories... I dunno, but its possible. I think one of Anakin's theories are based off the Deku Sprout being the GDT from Wind Waker.

Oh yeah, and birthplace means birthplace... ya know... not the point that a sprout turns into a tree. He was born in Kokiri Forest.

I'm still not saying its not the Deku Sprout... I think that makes it cooler. But its just bringing up something extra that I found that might fit in better with someone's theory or give them new insights... whatever