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Old 03-21-2004, 03:59 AM
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Lightbulb Order of Zelda Games Theory

I decided to make a thread on this because of a discussion that began in the WW2 news thread. So, without further ado....
Here is my theory on the order of the Zelda Games:

OoT
MM
WW
(^ don't really need to back this up.)
LoZ
AoL
(The landscapes in LoZ seem desolate, like they could have been under the sea for a long time. In AoL, The map is the same, only bigger, perhaps suggesting that the sea had drained more.)
LttP
(Its hard to link the NES games with LttP. But their is no contradictions, and it is logically put here.)
OoS
OoA
LA
(Order of oracles determined by Dr. Zaius' Theory. LA most likely takes place on the way back to Hyrule from the adventures in these lands, but it could be before. We know that these games take place after LttP, because the whole Triforce is complete and in Hyrule.)

The biggest problem is WW, of course. In order for this theory to work, the ocean has to drain. While this would seem like the most logical senerio, its not likely to occur. Miymoto will probably come up with something tottaly different. But for now, this theory works. So, what do you think? Remember, it's just a theory. You don't have to flame me if you don't like it.
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Old 03-21-2004, 05:17 AM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

You know, I haven't seen a theory that put LOZ and AoL before LttP in a LONG time. It is a nice change...erm...

I thought that Hyrule was moved northwards because a disaster of some kind before LoZ and AoL.? I wouldn't be suprised if they will shed that little piece of info on the series so that they have more room to create or something.
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Old 03-21-2004, 05:29 AM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

yes that actually a very good theory but i would like to see a bit more information
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:07 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

I have some problems with this theory. First off, "A Link to the Past" takes place before "The Legend of Zelda". You can get this information by reading the back of the "A Link to the Past" box for Super Nintendo. Also, "A Link to the Past" is followed by "Link's Awakening". "Oracle of Seasons" and "Oracle of Ages" involve a different Link. I know this to be true because when Link meets Zelda in the "Oracle" games, they do not know each other. Also, I know that the Link in "A Link to the Past" and "Link's Awakening" are the same because of the final boss in "Link's Awakening". One of the forms the boss takes is Agahnim, and the boss takes forms of Link's nightmares. Link from "A Link to the Past" is the only Link who fought Agahnim. So, the order of the games is:

"Ocarina of Time"
"Majora's Mask"
"The Wind Waker"
"A Link to the Past"
"Link's Awakening"
"Oracle of Seasons"
"Oracle of Ages"
"The Legend of Zelda"
"The Adventure of Link"
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Old 03-21-2004, 02:40 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

oot
mm
ww
alttp
oos
ooa
la
loz
aol

This is my theory, alttp, oos, ooa, la have the same link. zelda did know link in the oracle games, it said that link was a messanger sent from hyrule, I'm guessing by Zelda, because she trusted him.
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Old 03-21-2004, 04:54 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

I don't accept the back of the box as solid evidence. It was probably written by some dude who knows nothing about it, it was just his job to write a blurb on the back of the box. Its not as if Miyamoto wrote it himself.

In LttP, there seems to be a finnality to it. "You have tottaly destroyed Ganon." or"The Master Sword sleeps again...Forever!" are quotes that indicate to me that LttP was the last game with Ganon in it.
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Old 03-21-2004, 05:58 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

Dont forget that in LoZ there is not a master sword, just a white sword and magical sword. Oh and the wooden one. None of those are the master sword. So that means that LoZ and AoL can be after alttp
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Old 03-21-2004, 06:19 PM
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Your right, but my point is is that those statements make it seem to me like its the last Zelda. And because there are no contraditions, the theory stands. Its debatable whether or not the Magical Sword is the Master Sword. Theories that place LoZ after LttP are dependant on the Magical Sword being different from the Master Sword. My theory stands either way. The Master/Magical Sword is a whole different debate though, probobly best suited for another topic.
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Old 03-21-2004, 06:23 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

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Originally posted by silver arrow
oot
mm
ww
alttp
oos
ooa
la
loz
aol

This is my theory, alttp, oos, ooa, la have the same link. zelda did know link in the oracle games, it said that link was a messanger sent from hyrule, I'm guessing by Zelda, because she trusted him.
You're the first person that I know of to say that Link and Zelda knew each other in the "Oracle" games. Until I hear someone else say so too, I won't believe it.

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I don't accept the back of the box as solid evidence. It was probably written by some dude who knows nothing about it, it was just his job to write a blurb on the back of the box. Its not as if Miyamoto wrote it himself.
No offense, but the back of the box is much more trustworthy on this matter than you are.

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Dont forget that in LoZ there is not a master sword, just a white sword and magical sword. Oh and the wooden one. None of those are the master sword. So that means that LoZ and AoL can be after alttp
That is very true. Also, "The Legend of Zelda" and "The Adventure of Link" take place north of the Hyrule we see in the other games, mainly because of an attack inbetween the time of "A Link to the Past" and "The Legend of Zelda" where Hyrule Castle was destroyed. That's why we have North Castle in the time period of "The Legend of Zelda". The land is barren as a result of Ganon's renewed offensive.

And you're forgetting something else that's very important epyoncstm. In "The Adventure of Link", Link is searching for the Triforce of Courage. However, the Triforce of Courage was broken into eight shards by the King of Hyrule and hidden throughout the world. The only time that the Triforce is within the King of Hyrule's possession is in the time after "A Link to the Past". If the back of the box wasn't enough evidence for you, how does that settle with you?
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Old 03-21-2004, 06:45 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

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No offense, but the back of the box is much more trustworthy on this matter than you are.
What the heck is that supposed to mean? I'm not using my self as a source. I'm using evidence that is in the acctual games.

Quote:
Also, "The Legend of Zelda" and "The Adventure of Link" take place north of the Hyrule we see in the other games, mainly because of an attack inbetween the time of "A Link to the Past" and "The Legend of Zelda" where Hyrule Castle was destroyed. That's why we have North Castle in the time period of "The Legend of Zelda". The land is barren as a result of Ganon's renewed offensive.
Whats that from, the Comics? The 80's TV show? I dont remember anything about that in any of the games. Sounds like you pulled it right out of the ZU timeline.

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And you're forgetting something else that's very important epyoncstm. In "The Adventure of Link", Link is searching for the Triforce of Courage. However, the Triforce of Courage was broken into eight shards by the King of Hyrule and hidden throughout the world. The only time that the Triforce is within the King of Hyrule's possession is in the time after "A Link to the Past". If the back of the box wasn't enough evidence for you, how does that settle with you?
That is not true. The Triforce of Courage could have been in the Kings grasp some time after WW. The Triforce was up for grabs at the end of WW, and we dont know what happened to it afterwards. I haven't played WW2 yet, have you?

I dont accept evidence from comics, TV shows, box backs, mangas, fanfictions, or manuals.

btw, silver arrow, Link was sent on the Oracle journeys by the Triforce.
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Old 03-21-2004, 06:55 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

hey Ogmios22188 you have the exact same timeline as me
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Old 03-21-2004, 08:49 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

I have the exact same timeline as most people.

Anyway, I've seen that information about the war on a few sites, not just on this one, which led to the establishment of the Northern Kingdom. Also, there really is no concrete evidence that points to "A Link to the Past" taking place after "The Legend of Zelda", especially since the very back of a box says the contrary. Many people believe that theory, believe what you want, but I don't think you'll find many people who will agree with you.
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Old 03-21-2004, 09:20 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

Lttp is 100 years before loz acording to something. because it's a link to the PAST
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:12 PM
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I'm not sure just how many years before "The Legend of Zelda" "A Link to the Past" is, but it certainly does take place before it, hence the title. I think it's longer than 100 years though, since the "Oracle" games take place in between them as well. I'd say probably at least 300 years space in between.
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Old 03-24-2004, 01:25 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

I mean no offense to anyone, but I have always disliked the idea that TWW is set after OoT Link's time. I mean, TWW is almost a Zelda version of Noah and the Ark, and that makes a GREAT story to put *at the end*.

For the other lands, they don't *really* need to remain as Hyrule. I mean, come on, it doesn't really make sense to have the stories 300 years apart or something. I mean, when you need something to work you need to change it somehow, as I've learned.
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Old 03-24-2004, 01:35 PM
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Miyamoto and Anouma already said that it takes place directly after OoT. Its not debatable. Plus, if youve played the game, then it would be obvious.
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Old 03-24-2004, 01:50 PM
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Played and beaten: Four times.

No, it just can't make sense to have TWW after. Hey, it could be after Link I time, but, hey, there isn't a law saying that Link I couldn't have been in the rest of the games, save ALttP.
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Old 03-25-2004, 05:19 PM
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Re: Order of Zelda Games Theory

[quote]Originally posted by Ogmios22188
[b]You're the first person that I know of to say that Link and Zelda knew each other in the "Oracle" games. Until I hear someone else say so too, I won't believe it.

I'm not asking you to believe it, it's just a theory.
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:37 AM
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