Was Ganondorf always evil?

I know that Ganon was the main boss in the first Zelda game (and every other game) but what about Ganondorf? Was he just born evil or was it that since he got the triforce of power, he just became corrupted. I guss it's kind of stupid of me to question it now after all the Zelda games there are butI was curious.

I had acctually had the idea that Ganon (pig-beast) was an evil spirit that posses Ganondorf and takes over his body. Then when that Ganondorf dies, Ganon takes the ToP and posses another geruedo and posses him aswell and he becomes the new Ganondorf.

I am under the impression and that no human (or animal) are born evil. But humans can unfortunatly be corruped and even is some cases possesed.

Short Answer: Yes. Except maybe when he was a baby.

The original Ganondorf was seen in Ocarina of time. At that time it can be guessed that he was anywhere from 35-60. Now, previous to the events in Ocarina of Time, he was living in the Gerudo Desert, and as can be told by Wind Waker, he envied and hated those in other lands that where not tortured by the winds.

Now every Ganon in the other games is the same Ganon, save FSA, where a Gerudo took the Trident of Power, and was filled with the spirit of the original Ganon, and also the Oracle Games, where Twinrova unleashed a shell of Ganon, with no influence from Ganon's spirit.

Originally Posted by THE4DARKHEROS55

I had acctually had the idea that Ganon (pig-beast) was an evil spirit that posses Ganondorf and takes over his body. Then when that Ganondorf dies, Ganon takes the ToP and posses another geruedo and posses him aswell and he becomes the new Ganondorf.

Incorrect, that is only the case in FSA, every other game features the original Ganon, as evidenced in TP, tWW, and arguably aLttP.

Originally Posted by humulos

Short Answer: Yes. Except maybe when he was a baby.

The original Ganondorf was seen in Ocarina of time. At that time it can be guessed that he was anywhere from 35-60. Now, previous to the events in Ocarina of Time, he was living in the Gerudo Desert, and as can be told by Wind Waker, he envied and hated those in other lands that where not tortured by the winds.

Now every Ganon in the other games is the same Ganon, save FSA, where a Gerudo took the Trident of Power, and was filled with the spirit of the original Ganon, and also the Oracle Games, where Twinrova unleashed a shell of Ganon, with no influence from Ganon's spirit.


Incorrect, that is only the case in FSA, every other game features the original Ganon, as evidenced in TP, tWW, and arguably aLttP.

I've always assumed there were infact two Ganon(dorf)'s.

One of them being the OoT Ganondorf, who appeared in OoT, TWW & TP and is killed off in both TWW & TP.

Then another Ganondorf appears in FSA, and that's the second Ganondorf that is in the rest of the games.

Originally Posted by NintendoTogepi

I've always assumed there were infact two Ganon(dorf)'s.

One of them being the OoT Ganondorf, who appeared in OoT, TWW & TP and is killed off in both TWW & TP.

Then another Ganondorf appears in FSA, and that's the second Ganondorf that is in the rest of the games.

It is technically the same Ganondorf because the FSA Ganondorf is just a new body, filled with the spirit of the original. Though you would be correct in that this Ganondorf is the one that appears in all games after FSA. Wot those games are differ depending on your version of the timeline.

First of all, Ganon is Ganon. The idea that there are two of him makes no sense. Second, TRIDENT of power? Isn't that some kind of gum? Anyway, evr since Ganondorf was old enough to have a sense of good and evil, he's been evil. He started out leading a band of thieves, which is pretty bad to start. Then he tried to turn Hyrule into a "World of Monsters" in OoT, and that was only his first attempt at world domination. After that, he's had many failed attempts to take over Hyrule. He's pretty much been evil all the way through. However, I do think the triforce of power possessed him and turned him into evil embodied in OoT. OoT was the only game where he really had a choice in the matter.

Originally Posted by Jac06

I know that Ganon was the main boss in the first Zelda game (and every other game) but what about Ganondorf? Was he just born evil or was it that since he got the triforce of power, he just became corrupted. I guss it's kind of stupid of me to question it now after all the Zelda games there are but I was curious.

I don't think he was really evil to start with. Though his caretakers Kotate and Koume were corrupted, and his goals likely became twisted when he got the ToP and found he could do whatever he wanted. It's not like he was born without a soul or something.

I see, I was just wondering about it since (just from what I knew) I never really seen it mentioned what Ganonorf was like before wanting world domination or whatever. I know that no one can exactly be born evil, I just wasn't sure if for Ganondorf he became corrupt or if it was more like "The Omen" kind of thing.

Something of no importance: I forgot about him, on an online game I used to play there's a High Priest named Ganon.

Originally Posted by Jac06

I see, I was just wondering about it since (just from what I knew) I never really seen it mentioned what Ganonorf was like before wanting world domination or whatever. I know that no one can exactly be born evil, I just wasn't sure if for Ganondorf he became corrupt or if it was more like "The Omen" kind of thing.

Something of no importance: I forgot about him, on an online game I used to play there's a High Priest named Ganon.

I've never seen The Omen. I would feel uneasy around NPCs of other games that had names like Ganon or some other main villian of another game.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

I've never seen The Omen. I would feel uneasy around NPCs of other games that had names like Ganon or some other main villian of another game.

No kidding, as a strange coincidence you can find the High Priest in the main city in the desert area of the game.

Originally Posted by Jac06

No kidding, as a strange coincidence you can find the High Priest in the main city in the desert area of the game.

What are you talking about? Is this ALttP?

being the first gerudo-male to be born in 100 years, he was just bound to be an outcast, spoiled by his tutors and filled with hate towards the normal people.
Being a genuis at almost everything, he read about the triforce. He want wanted the triforce, but to gather more information, he had to pledge allegiance to the king and the royal family (this is where link meets zelda in OoT, in the garden). The rest is Oot history.

at the beggining of OoT, Ganondorf didn't had the Triforce of Power, so it is not because of that, and even if he did had it, how he could be possesed by a part of the purest thing on the universe created by the goddessess themselves? Do you think the Triforce of Power has some kind of evil in it? the Triforce is pure, and won't corrupt anybody.

Originally Posted by Khao

at the beggining of OoT, Ganondorf didn't had the Triforce of Power, so it is not because of that, and even if he did had it, how he could be possesed by a part of the purest thing on the universe created by the goddessess themselves? Do you think the Triforce of Power has some kind of evil in it? the Triforce is pure, and won't corrupt anybody.

he never had the triforce. when the triforce is touched by a person filled with evil, it will split in three. The evil person gets the part that fits best to his personality.
ganondorf had it (after that link opened that portal).

Originally Posted by Majoraman

First of all, Ganon is Ganon. The idea that there are two of him makes no sense. Second, TRIDENT of power? Isn't that some kind of gum? Anyway, evr since Ganondorf was old enough to have a sense of good and evil, he's been evil. He started out leading a band of thieves, which is pretty bad to start. Then he tried to turn Hyrule into a "World of Monsters" in OoT, and that was only his first attempt at world domination. After that, he's had many failed attempts to take over Hyrule. He's pretty much been evil all the way through. However, I do think the triforce of power possessed him and turned him into evil embodied in OoT. OoT was the only game where he really had a choice in the matter.

You know, I hate it when I forget where I posted in this forum.

Now, as for your argument, please play EVERY Zelda game before making accusations. If you where to play Four Sword Adventures, you would learn that there was a Gerudo who drew the Trident of Power, and became infused with an Evil Spirit, whom many believe is the Original Ganon.

Yes, Ganon has always been evil, but the Triforce of Power had absolutely NO say in the matter. The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil and can only be used as a tool. It has no will of its own.

Also, Trident is indeed gum, but long before that brand existed, it was a weapon, a three-pronged spear, and we have seen Ganon use it in aLttP and FSA.

Originally Posted by Junkie88

he never had the triforce. when the triforce is touched by a person filled with evil, it will split in three. The evil person gets the part that fits best to his personality.
ganondorf had it (after that link opened that portal).

Incorrect sir, the Triforce can be touched by anyone and still give the entire power to that person, as evidenced by Ganon's attainment of it in aLttP. The Triforce only splits when a person with an unbalanced heart touches it. Ganon was focusing on Power when he first touched it, and that caused a split. By the time aLttP rolled around, he had balanced himself between Courage Power and Wisdom, and was able to conquer the Golden Realm.

the person who touch the Triforce will get the part that most represent him, and the other 2 parts will get to whoever the Triforce thinks if fit the most.

oh, and Junkie88, I said Ganondorf got the Triforce of Power, not the Triforce.

Originally Posted by Keaton-King

What are you talking about? Is this ALttP?

No, I was talking about an online game I used to play, an NPC had the name Ganon who was a High Priest.

Also, I wgot stuck on a part in FSA (for the GC) so I didn't get far enough to see that Ganon or whoever he was.

Ganondorf has always struck me as a complex and rather tragic character. Oh, how I love it. I think he originally started off with good intentions- wanting a better home for his people, but along the way, he fell prey to his own ambition.

Originally Posted by Eralk Fang

Ganondorf has always struck me as a complex and rather tragic character. Oh, how I love it. I think he originally started off with good intentions- wanting a better home for his people, but along the way, he fell prey to his own ambition.

Yes, combine that with having witches for parents and you have a formula for making evil people. Or maybe the dark magic he learned from his foster parents twisted his judgement as well?

Play the Wind Waker. Ganon's monologue at the end of the game clearly exposes a side of him that is not evil at all.

As revealed in the Wind Waker, Ganondorf's actions in OoT are born out of nothing more than jealousy. Growing up in a harsh desert wasteland where they had to fight to survive, while the Hylians lived in a soft and easy land, explains both the Gerudo's thieving tendency and Ganondorf turning to hatred and jealousy.

During OoT, he is quite clearly corrupted by his power, but he's still not evil.

In The Wind Waker, he is not acting out of evil, either; his goals are to restore Hyrule and fulfill the obsession that began when he was growing up in the desert.

The only games that actually portray him as pure evil are...:

Legend of Zelda
Adventure of Link
A Link to the Past
Four Swords Adventures
Twilight Princess

Admittedly, that's most of the games featuring Ganon, but it's very clear that, earlierin his life, he was NOT evil - he was a more human, fleshed out, 3-dimensional character.