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Old 11-01-2007, 09:17 AM
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What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

First we have OoT, with Inside Ganon's Castle. Eh. The Ice and Fire rooms are a little hard but otherwise very E-Z and short.

Then comes MM. I haven't played it but I heard the moon dungeon is pathetically easily, and pretty much lasts for 3 minutes if you don't give the masks to the kids and go through the rooms.

And then TWW. Ganon's Tower in TWW is probably the hardest of out of the final 3D dungeons, but it's still pretty easy.

And now TP. Hyrule Castle is great and it's one of my favorite dungeons in the game, but it's so short and easy!

Why is every 3D Zelda cursed to have a short and easy final dungeon?
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

Of the GB zeldas I've played, the final dungeons arenīt difficult either...
Why are you going against 3d zelda only?
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:07 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

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Of the GB zeldas I've played, the final dungeons arenīt difficult either...
Why are you going against 3d zelda only?
Maybe the 2D ones are too difficult

ALttP had a good last dungeon, not easy at all really.
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:03 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

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Of the GB zeldas I've played, the final dungeons arenīt difficult either...
Why are you going against 3d zelda only?
Because I've only beaten 4 Zelda games, 3 of which were 3D
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:03 AM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

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Because I've only beaten 4 Zelda games, 3 of which were 3D
Then you don't have enough information to only judge 3D Zelda games. A few of the 2D ones had a great Final Dungeon, some... not so good. But I agree, it seems they rush the final dungeon.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:16 AM
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Then you don't have enough information to only judge 3D Zelda games. A few of the 2D ones had a great Final Dungeon, some... not so good. But I agree, it seems they rush the final dungeon.
Hey, I've beaten 3 of the 4 3D Zelda games.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:25 AM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

Yeah, the 3D Zelda's did seem to have kinda easy final dungeons. Now LoZ, that had a really difficult final dungeon! It was massive, and it had tons of hard enemies in it! O_o Who knows how many times I died in there.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:53 AM
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Yeah, the 3D Zelda's did seem to have kinda easy final dungeons. Now LoZ, that had a really difficult final dungeon! It was massive, and it had tons of hard enemies in it! O_o Who knows how many times I died in there.

yeah seriously, especially with its maze like qualities - Brutal!
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:33 PM
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Nes games harder

The last dungeon for the zelda Nes games I think were pretty hard (LOZ) and (AOL)
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

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Maybe the 2D ones are too difficult

ALttP had a good last dungeon, not easy at all really.
I agree.
But in the minish cap, when I got to dark hyrule castle I was very dissapointed at how easy it was. I loved Dark Hyrule Castle simply because it reminded me so much of LttP hyrule castle.
Shame it was soooooooo easy.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:13 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

I double agree. The controls are harder with handheld Zelda games.

I think most people agree with that because by the time they get to the boss in the last dungeon. Their hands begin to cramp.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

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Maybe the 2D ones are too difficult

ALttP had a good last dungeon, not easy at all really.
I thought the last dungeon in alttp was very easy. I can beat that in less than 10 minutes.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

In Majoras Mask, is it considered the final dungeon if you play their game? You can beat the game without entering that dungeon at all.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

It's not only zelda games that are getting easier. If you look at older games they were harder because of the limitations of the system they were one. Games got easier as things like 8 way movement was created.

Controls got better and better. They were more responsive, and responded faster.

There was also hit detection that was getting better, and graphics. No longer were you thinking "crap, if I touch that... will I die?" because now you can tell what everthing is.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:07 AM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

Well I'm not really sure you could say that the 3d Zelda games last parts where easy more as short I suppose but then again that's not really true.
One thing though is you really should play Majora's mask before you judge it as easy because it’s a really good game (even though it took me about 3 or 4 years to finally beat it…). But it really depends on whether you go though the whole give kids the masks and play hid and go seek with them because then it can take a little while longer. I’m not going to say that the last dungeons were hard or easy to me they were pretty fun they each had a different way of getting to the end and that's got to be worth something...
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:01 PM
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Re: What's with 3D Zelda games and their last dungeons?

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First we have OoT, with Inside Ganon's Castle. Eh. The Ice and Fire rooms are a little hard but otherwise very E-Z and short.

Then comes MM. I haven't played it but I heard the moon dungeon is pathetically easily, and pretty much lasts for 3 minutes if you don't give the masks to the kids and go through the rooms.

And then TWW. Ganon's Tower in TWW is probably the hardest of out of the final 3D dungeons, but it's still pretty easy.

And now TP. Hyrule Castle is great and it's one of my favorite dungeons in the game, but it's so short and easy!

Why is every 3D Zelda cursed to have a short and easy final dungeon?

I don't agree with many of your posts, but you are 100% correct about this. Anyone who's played and beaten the NES and SNES games knows the last level is always the hardest, and usually a huge pain. The new ones are ridiculously easy. I suppose it's probably because the end fights with Ganon or whoever are much more elaborate now, so playing a hard, long level would be a huge pain to replay, and then still have to face a 30 min or so boss. Still, some of the most enjoyable times in Zelda's have come in Spectacle Rock, the Great Palace(and getting there!), and Ganon's Tower. I'd rather trade 18 stages of easy Ganon for one, maybe 2 harder stages, and an elaborate level leading up to the final battle.
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