The Romance Thread IV: The Debate Continues

Originally Posted by Ganonslayer2000

True, but maybe Link wants to give the gift of his virginity to a guy. Fado perhaps??

^ Do we really need that?

For myself, I think Link is a timid person when it comes to sex. Although, he might be hiding it, but from examining his personality and characteristics, he might be the type of guy that wouldn't make the first move.
Even when he gave his hand to Zelda before he slayed Ganondorf, he was probably giving her support, rather than "take my hand Zelda. I love you..."

I think he would have more time than the average man to grow a very deep relationship with a woman. It took him almost three quarters of his adventure to show something towards Midna, but if she wasn't harsh on him in the beginning, he would have gotten used to her more quicklier.

I still belive that the handholding scene means something more.
In every game there is ZeLink hinting. Zelda is the right girl for Link no matter what. I belive that from the deep of my heart. It´s allways been ZeLink and will allways remain so.

Originally Posted by KPGirl

I still belive that the handholding scene means something more.
In every game there is ZeLink hinting. Zelda is the right girl for Link no matter what. I belive that from the deep of my heart. It´s allways been ZeLink and will allways remain so.

^ The ending scene with them in the sky in OoT was probably the closest feeling to romance that Link and Zelda ever got. They were much closer than Link and Zelda in TP. The only thing that we witness is Link giving her his hand and she takes it gracefully. But OoT was much, much more than that. It was like the very atmosphere was breathing love around them. It was beautiful in a way.

I don't know if it is a good idea to have them any closer in the future Zelda games. It might spark so many things up between Nintendo and their fans.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

^ The ending scene with them in the sky in OoT was probably the closest feeling to romance that Link and Zelda ever got. They were much closer than Link and Zelda in TP. The only thing that we witness is Link giving her his hand and she takes it gracefully. But OoT was much, much more than that. It was like the very atmosphere was breathing love around them. It was beautiful in a way.

I don't know if it is a good idea to have them any closer in the future Zelda games. It might spark so many things up between Nintendo and their fans.

i didnt know if i wasnt the only one who thought that or not. zelda and link, to me, seemed like they were closer in oot. just because he met her as a child. in twilight princess they only met like two or three times and none of those times really allowed them to talk to each other and get close. i mean heck. the first time he meets her in tp he's a wolf. how romantic... [cause we all know zelda is a furry...] then theres the run in with zelda when midna is dying. then there's the final battle.

I didnt find any of that really romantic. the relationship they had in ocarina of time was better. it had more of a background. deeper roots.

Personately I think that Nintendo should develop the romance between ZeLink and prove once and for all(Even tough there still are evidence) in future games. More dramatical, bloody,battle and romance game. That would be the perfect Zelda game for me.
Personately I feel that there is just as much romance in TP as in Oot but only in a different. I can point out lots of stuff in TP that proves that.

Originally Posted by KPGirl

I can point out lots of stuff in TP that proves that.

like? not trying to be smart here. im just curious. what romantic ties did you see between zelda and link? i didnt see any myself, but id like to know what you saw.

Originally Posted by Severian

i didnt know if i wasnt the only one who thought that or not. zelda and link, to me, seemed like they were closer in oot. just because he met her as a child. in twilight princess they only met like two or three times and none of those times really allowed them to talk to each other and get close. i mean heck. the first time he meets her in tp he's a wolf. how romantic... [cause we all know zelda is a furry...] then theres the run in with zelda when midna is dying. then there's the final battle.

I didnt find any of that really romantic. the relationship they had in ocarina of time was better. it had more of a background. deeper roots.

^ Yes. As Sheik said, young love becomes deep affection or something like that, although I don't think that Link and Zelda had anything for each other when they were both young. Probably just friends.
But I guess you are right. Since they have remained friends at an early age, they would have gotten closer to each other in a way that is considered 'romantic.' But Link was asleep for seven years. Perhaps it was destiny. Who knows?

But in TP, Link had a closer relationship to Midna than Princess Zelda. Even after Midna said her final farewell and disappeared after the last of the mirror was still intact, Link and Zelda stood next to each other, just staring at the shattered mirror. Nothing significant happened between them after that. Link had more feelings for Midna than Princess Zelda herself.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

^ The ending scene with them in the sky in OoT was probably the closest feeling to romance that Link and Zelda ever got. They were much closer than Link and Zelda in TP. The only thing that we witness is Link giving her his hand and she takes it gracefully. But OoT was much, much more than that. It was like the very atmosphere was breathing love around them. It was beautiful in a way.

I don't know if it is a good idea to have them any closer in the future Zelda games. It might spark so many things up between Nintendo and their fans.

I think the reason it felt romantic was because of the use of cinematics...the music, camera circling around them in the blue sky, I thought it reinforced that feeling of "the only two people in the whole world" that is often used romantically in film. ( See Elizabeth and Mr Darcy's dance in the new Pride and Prejudice for a classic example ) As much as it pains me to say it, the scene where Ilia remembers used the same tactic. Anyways, that wasn't the only scene that I saw romance ( or potential ) in: I loved how he turned to smile at Zelda when she said, " It's over!"..and they had a few seconds there before Navi interrupted, then Ganondorf did. Just little things like that, and even those scenes where Zelda ( Sheik ) just stared at him after a song, and he would attempt to approach. IMO, in TP, the game was entirely devoid of little moments to reinforce a connection unlike in OoT.

Not a good idea? I can't help but think of WW and how prominent the bond was between Link and Zelda/Tetra. Did it hurt the game? I think it majorly added to it.
In terms of the fanbase, I can't help but think that we forum goers are a small minority. I mean, if you went and asked the average person, "Zelda vs Malon?", they'd likely be like, "Who's Malon?" whereas Princess Zelda likely registers on their mind owing to the title and games like Smash Brothers, where she is equated to Peach. In that light, I doubt romance between her and Link would phase any great number of people. It's a hero rescuing a princess, a massive cliche from fairy tales and other games.

Originally Posted by Twilight~09

And this is where the whole theory of "is link gay?" fits in...

Yep...SheikahxLink = GAY

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

^ Do we really need that?

For myself, I think Link is a timid person when it comes to sex. Although, he might be hiding it, but from examining his personality and characteristics, he might be the type of guy that wouldn't make the first move.
Even when he gave his hand to Zelda before he slayed Ganondorf, he was probably giving her support, rather than "take my hand Zelda. I love you..."

I think he would have more time than the average man to grow a very deep relationship with a woman. It took him almost three quarters of his adventure to show something towards Midna, but if she wasn't harsh on him in the beginning, he would have gotten used to her more quicklier.

Not really. I just kidd around too much sometimes. But yeah...I agree with the rest of your post 100%

Originally Posted by KPGirl

I still belive that the handholding scene means something more.
In every game there is ZeLink hinting. Zelda is the right girl for Link no matter what. I belive that from the deep of my heart. It´s allways been ZeLink and will allways remain so.

Maybe but I thought that scene would have been more better fitted in a scenario where they are at a random royal ball or something. But I guess the brief glance they share after Beast Ganon was defeated may suggest a little for LinkxZelda and the final scene of the throne after he rides away from Ordon may or may not suggest he was going to see Zelda who knows. Or Link could be riding to Telmas bar to hook up with Telma and get drunk with her to celebrate his triumph over Ganon once again.

Originally Posted by gliderpilotgirl

In terms of the fanbase, I can't help but think that we forum goers are a small minority. I mean, if you went and asked the average person, "Zelda vs Malon?", they'd likely be like, "Who's Malon?" whereas Princess Zelda likely registers on their mind owing to the title and games like Smash Brothers, where she is equated to Peach. In that light, I doubt romance between her and Link would phase any great number of people. It's a hero rescuing a princess, a massive cliche from fairy tales and other games.

Actually, now that TP is out, it more "Zelda vs Midna vs Malon" just look at the polls. But yes, any non-Zelda fan would likely go "Who's Malon?" or "Midna? Who's that?". And the fairy tale cliche point was my very first....

Originally Posted by Blackfire667

Actually, it more "Zelda vs Midna vs Malon" following TP. And the "hero saves and gets the princess point" was my very first...

Actually, that would be 2 seperate questions. It should be "Zelda vs Malon" and "Zelda vs Midna" depending on the game.

On the topic of cliches, I think Ilia herself is sort of a cliche...she's the "girl back home" who waits patiently waits for her man to return, though he may never do so. That's the impression I got from TPs ending...she loves Link and wants him to stay, but he has greater concerns now and cannot remain with her. His calling is to be a great hero, hers is something more mundane (like becoming a wife and mother).

Link and Zelda did not have any "romance" in TP, but if they did, it would have a firmer foundation than the one he might have with Ilia.

I couldn't have said it better myself and for the record IlliaxFado.

Originally Posted by Månegarm

On the topic of cliches, I think Ilia herself is sort of a cliche...she's the "girl back home" who waits patiently waits for her man to return, though he may never do so. That's the impression I got from TPs ending...she loves Link and wants him to stay, but he has greater concerns now and cannot remain with her. His calling is to be a great hero, hers is something more mundane (like becoming a wife and mother).

Link and Zelda did not have any "romance" in TP, but if they did, it would have a firmer foundation than the one he might have with Ilia.

Maybe that's why everyone seems to be so split on this issue: we essentially have dueling cliches going on with two very different types of women who belong in two different types of story. Depending on how you see Link, it changes everything. There's the knight who fearlessly charges the fortress to rescue the beautiful Princess ( the standard fairy tale ), and the peasant boy who goes off to war leaving a faithful woman waiting behind for him ( most war movies ). I personally think the Zelda series fits the former better, but in TP it seems they tried the latter. I couldn't help but feel it didn't feel right though: to me Link's life is not about what he leaves behind and will return to, but about what he will become.

If Link had a girlfriend, she'd drag him down. If ur a boy superhero and had a girlfriend, you'd have to surrendure if the bad guys found out and held her hostage.

Originally Posted by Tri-Edge

If Link had a girlfriend, she'd drag him down. If ur a boy superhero and had a girlfriend, you'd have to surrendure if the bad guys found out and held her hostage.

^ Zelda is always kept hostage whenever evil takes over her land or ambush happens. Not that she can't do anything about it, but we do know for a fact that she can escape and hide herself in disguise (like Sheik and when she dressed up in the Twilight robes). So she isn't the typical princess that we commonly remember through fairy tales that is always waiting for the hero. We do know that Princess Zelda supports Link whenever he and she meet through crisis times. So she is far more useful than any woman crying out for help, 24/7.
But the thought of Link having a girlfriend in the start of his adventure will certainly drag him down. She would need support and he is always on the move to protect his land whenever possible, so their relationship won't stay as strong as they both could imagine. She would get frustrated and to demand him to stop, but Link can't do anything about it. Afterall, he has been chosen by the goddesses and has been granted the ToP.

This is why I think it really is ZeLink in TP. I´ve written this a thousand of times before so I´ll explan all this with a video a Zelda fan did and it really is true. Some things in the video didn´t even I recognize myself. All Zelda games is hinting ZeLink, get over it MaLink,MidnxLinkers or IliaxLinkers etc!

YouTube - The Return of Link/Zelda

The video contains stuff from more games than TP but TP was the thing in this video that got the footage evidence.
Anyway, I think this fuss is cause that Nintendo is discrete with prooving it all themselves cause they want us to feel like we are Link and choose ourselves. But still they hint ZeLink in every game...

Originally Posted by KPGirl

This is why I think it really is ZeLink in TP. I´ve written this a thousand of times before so I´ll explan all this with a video a Zelda fan did and it really is true. Some things in the video didn´t even I recognize myself. All Zelda games is hinting ZeLink, get over it MaLink,MidnxLinkers or IliaxLinkers etc!

YouTube - The Return of Link/Zelda

The video contains stuff from more games than TP but TP was the thing in this video that got the footage evidence.
Anyway, I think this fuss is cause that Nintendo is discrete with prooving it all themselves cause they want us to feel like we are Link and choose ourselves. But still they hint ZeLink in every game...

Interesting, but I'm certain the Link/Midna and Link/Ilia folk could put together clips that support their preferred pairing just as much as that one did.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

^ She would get frustrated and to demand him to stop, but Link can't do anything about it. Afterall, he has been chosen by the goddesses and has been granted the ToP.

Demand he stop saving the world to spend time with her? What a selfish hypothetical woman that would be!

And I think you mean Triforce of COURAGE not Power.

Originally Posted by Månegarm

Interesting, but I'm certain the Link/Midna and Link/Ilia folk could put together clips that support their preferred pairing just as much as that one did.

Like just as much as some g*ys putting togheter a video stating LinkxGanondorf.