The Romance Thread IV: The Debate Continues

Originally Posted by Talon

When you grow up, why don't you
come to work here, on this
ranch? That's a standing offer!
I'll be waiting for you.

Only real hint in the game as to OoT Link's potential career prospects. Remarkably consistent with his presumed descendant's career choice in TP.

Hm, I wonder...

Originally Posted by Daphnes

I would very likely feel as you do, if I had played ALttP and OoT without ever playing LA. However, LA was my second game after LoZ. None of the characters were developed in that game, but LA was ten times better than LoZ in every way. So we see where each other is coming from, right? I see with your eyes now.

And I can see with yours. I'm sure I will very much like Marin when I play the game.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

You asked me via PM what OoT Link probably did post MM, judging from TP. Well, I see a decendant of Link living at a ranch, owning a horse and working as a ranch hand. If OoT Link married Zelda, then TP Link would possibly live in the city, and could have a background of being trained at an academy of some kind.

Though it's a long held tradidtion that the heros come from humble birth. Whether living in the woods, or in a rural area outside of the major town like ALttP and TMC.

But I think you maent the Hero Shade instead of TP Link. You believe, as many do, that the spirit that teaches sword techniques if the spirit of OoT Link. One who took on the mantle of Hero, and seems to have been a renowned knight.

I figured we could bring our stuff out into this thread, if you want to.

I do agree that seems to be a dead-on hint about what happened to him...but given the "Hero's Journey", Link's apparent feelings for Zelda in OoT/MM and just a feeling in the heart..I feel him ending up with Malon did not happen.

There's the thing, as you said. Even if Link was a direct descendant of the King and Queen..hundreds of years later, he wouldn't be allowed to have that life, as he has to start from nowhere. If I recall correctly, wasn't LoZ Link said to be a descendant of ALTTP Link, who could well be the great Triforce holding King, of AoL's backstory ? ( Feel free to zap me on timeline stuff, as it's not my best subject )
TP Link could well be the descendant of Link and Zelda..but distanced by time and such. Remember I was hinting about the Magic Armor? The only reasonable explanation I can come up with is it was OoT Link's...possibly worn during his reign..I think he may have been more than just a knight.
Compare below to Zelda's garb:



There's nothing about the Hero's Spirit that contradicts this either..."the life of the hero" can mean many things.

Looking at TP Link himself...genetics/geographics says his parents came from Castletown direction..as that's where all the Hylians come from. He is the only Hylian in Ordon...making him unrelated to the villagers. He either came with his parents or was possibly brought as an orphan to Ordon, and raised by the villagers as a rancher. ( I also believe the Spirit of the Beast enables to him to have special ability in dealing with animals, explaining his skill )

Lex: He didn't marry Ruto...and that was "set in stone". When he DID become an adult in game..he didn't work on the ranch..he went his own way.
Nor did he appear to stay with Romani, who wanted him to live with them.

It's a great mystery, and there seems to be evidence pointing in both directions. Maybe the devs planned on that, to appeal to the fans of Malon and Zelda.

And yes, the box cover of ALttP says they are the ancestors of LoZ Link and Zelda. It's also said somewhere that Link in LoZ is a wandering swordsman, but that may just be the noncanonical magna. It's also said LoZ Link hails from Calatia, which is a land only mentioned of in the magna.

I'm going with Zelda. No matter what game, Link always seems to have a vibe with her, eventhough he seems to like some girls more then her.

I think Mida goes best with Link

I still think this poll can't ever really reflect "the truth".

How can anyone say who's best for Link?

Which Link? They're all different people.

OoT? I prefer the Link/Malon pairing (and I prefer to think of Link and Zelda in this game as separated siblings). Though the Manga was all about Link/Zelda, TP Link really strikes me as a scion of the Link/Malon line.

TWW? I like both Link/Medli and Link/Tetra - though the latter just a little bit more.

TP? Link/Midna by a mile. Failing that, Link/Hena.

And that's just the 3D games. In most of the 2D games, I'd say I was a supporter of the Link/Zelda pairing... but still, "who's best for Link" depends on which Link we're talking about.

Normally, I used to go with the Talon's girl, Malon. She was a very nice person towards Link in general, very friendly. Even though they didn't really have any sort of special relationship, I would definitely consider them as the most fitting couple in the Zelda series. At least, my feeling says so.

But, even when Malon is a friendly girl who tends do "like" Link, in some sort of way, there are still other girls whom had weak relationships with Link as well. For instance, Ruto, Nabooru, et cetera.

Now, why Ruto nor Nabooru essentially aren't possible for Link, is generally because Ruto is of the Zora tribe, even if she were able to marry Link, they would be able to produce children, I'd rather assume. That leaves Ruto out of question. This also counts for Midna, whom is from the Twili race. As I mentioned, Nabooru isn't possible either. Mainly because she only appears in front of Link before he enters the Spirit Temple and before she gets captured by Koume and Kotake (Twinrova). That leaves her out as well.

Now taking Saria and Ilia into advance, these two are actually perfectly possible, from my point of view. You see, Saria did have an excellent relationship with Link, during those years he lived in Kokiri Forest, they spent a lot of time. Of course, this pre-event hasn't been told forth in Ocarina Of Time, sadly enough. But I'd assume there is a possibility. Ilia, on the other hand, is basically the exact same story as Saria's in Ocarina Of Time, I believe Ilia's and Link's relationship would probably even be better, since they're mainly older and yet both interested in each other. They had their bad times as well, when Link unintentionally hurt Epona, an event which happens initially in Twilight Princess.

Seeing the remaining option, Zelda, well I don't see some sort of farmer/kokiri marrying the princess of Hyrule. Now would we?

Ulicus reminds me, if you beat all eight stages of roll goal in TP (beat 8-8), then you supposedly get a date with Hena. That counts as something.

Midna leaves in TP, but if she didn't I wouldn't put her in the same group as Ruto in OoT. I view Twili as basically nocturnal Hylians. There's this big debate about who the interlopers really were, and I believe it could have been outcasts from different races. So Midna could have Hylian blood in her.

I hope and believe that the Twili may return. The people as a whole just need more development. I do love the Twili world, and am SO glad Ninty switched it from black and white.

Yes, it does depend on the Link. The makers like giving more options in the 3D games.

OoT: Zelda or Malon. There's evidence that he assocciates with both in MM.
MM: Romani if Link stayed in Termina.
TWW: Tetra. I don't really see Medli, though I do like her.
TP: Ilia or Hena if Midna doesn't show back up in Link's lifetime.

Well, I chose zelda because she seems to be the most obvious and judicious choice. In a lot of games, it's seems obvious that the creators of Zelda show an obvious and true relationship between them. Link spends his time fighting for zelda,he saves his princess of ganondorf and he is always uneasy for her. Zelda is a interesting character, she is strong and kind women, i love so much this character and i think princess zelda and link makes a great couple in each games.

Princess zelda is the Best female for link because she often helps him, she guides link during his adventure. They have the same destiny and are very close and she is really very beautiful, elegant and courageous.

I can't deny that there appears to be some chemistry between Link and Zelda between some of the games, but not all. It all depends on which Zelda game we're talking about to which girl Link could/would eventually end up with.
In TP, Midna is ruled out because she makes a choice to leave Hyrule behind her. Zelda is a possibility, but not much of a relationship has been established between the two. Link grew up and spend all of his life with Ilia, there's no other woman in this game for him.

In OoT Link is given and hand full of women to choose from, each with there own unique qualities and flaws. Link and Saria appear to have a strong connection from the start, but since she has a duty as a Sage, it seems they never could be. The next girl in question is Malon. She seems like an all around girl for Link, posessing many great qualities. She has always been my personal favourite in Oot. Link is jokingly given her hand in marriage by her father Talon, but could this actually possible. They appear to both have a passion for horses and music, and seem to get along great. Princess Ruto... hmmm, seems like a nice girl, but a bit too bossy and demanding at times. Link has a so called "engagment" to her, but since she as well becomes a Sage, this also is not possible.

The only girl that seems apparent for Link in WW is Zelda/Tetra. No other girl in the game is presented with a possible romantic aspect to her. We are given other girls, but none that don't already have there hearts set on someone else, or not been given enough character detail.

My conclusion for most other Zelda games would have to be Zelda, with the exception of LA which would have to be Marin.

Originally Posted by Courage*

In OoT Link is given and hand full of women to choose from, each with there own unique qualities and flaws. Link and Saria appear to have a strong connection from the start, but since she has a duty as a Sage, it seems they never could be. The next girl in question is Malon. She seems like an all around girl for Link, posessing many great qualities. She has always been my personal favourite in Oot. Link is jokingly given her hand in marriage by her father Talon, but could this actually possible. They appear to both have a passion for horses and music, and seem to get along great. Princess Ruto... hmmm, seems like a nice girl, but a bit too bossy and demanding at times. Link has a so called "engagment" to her, but since she as well becomes a Sage, this also is not possible.

The only girl that seems apparent for Link in WW is Zelda/Tetra. No other girl in the game is presented with a possible romantic aspect to her. We are given other girls, but none that don't already have there hearts set on someone else, or not been given enough character detail.

What about Zelda in OoT/MM? Unlike Ruto and Saria..she is not concretely vetoed. In MM, despite the sad "farewell"...we still have hope. "I believe in my heart that a day will come when I shall meet you again...Until then take this" ( hands him the Ocarina ) And he returned to her at the end of OoT..and that was our last scene in a heavily emotional ending. That can't be ignored.

What about Medli? I agree that Tetra is the winner in this case, but Medli seemed to like Link. She was pretty friendly with him, opening up to him quite easily. And she didn't seem to want Komali to like her romantically...even falling into Link's arms conveniently in time for Komali to see it. Her sage thing was not a problem in the end too, as she is seen with Makar on the pirate ship. ( And Hyrule and the Master Sword no longer need her, as they no longer need Link and Zelda )

I used to think that Link and Zelda were not a good match but a few weeks ago I defeated Ganon on OoT and and just before they realise that Ganon isn't quite dead they both look at each other and I saw such good chemistry between them just at that scene in the game. Other than Zelda I think Malon is a great match for Link I really don't know why but she's always been my favorite love intrest for Link theres just something really likable about her and I think she's more suitable for Link than Zelda is I think maybe because Zelda is a princess and all I see her as a less likely love intrest for Link.

The one person that I can seriously never see Link with is Midna she just seems a little too old for link and I don't think they would be good together at all.

I voted malon for the poll. She's the perfect choice once Link no longer has to save the world.
In Windwaker the perfect choice in Talon until she finds a kingdom and rules over it. If Link's child becomes royal though it might be impossible for him to venture out and save the world.

Originally Posted by KingOfHeart

I voted malon for the poll. She's the perfect choice once Link no longer has to save the world.
In Windwaker the perfect choice in Talon until she finds a kingdom and rules over it. If Link's child becomes royal though it might be impossible for him to venture out and save the world.

The same could be said for Ilia..perfect choice when Link no longer has to save the world. But does his duty and calling end after his mission is complete? I don't think so. Look at the Hero's Spirit..he "accepted the life of the hero" and he's even after death continuing it. TP Link rides away from Ilia and Ordon at the end, and WW Link sails off with Tetra. ( I think "Talon" was supposed to be Tetra in yours ) OoT Link returns to Zelda, and goes onto to furthur heroics in Termina.
The idea behind Malon, Ilia and their type is for Link to settle down into a quiet non-heroic life right? That's how I see it..and that strikes me as inconsistent with the whole point of the Zelda games..to grow away from that life.
Link and Zelda also have that important element ( as VoiceofNoOne said ) chemistry. While everyone will see a different picture in that regard..this player most definately sees it, in pretty much every game BUT TP. ( The moment that VoNO pointed out in OoT? I thought they were going to kiss. )
But to each his own.

I still think it's Link/Zelda the best couple.
I always noticed great alchemy between them. It is obvious that Link and Zelda feel a very strong attraction for each other but they seem to refuse to interact
a true romantic relationship between them beyond of their friendship because of their respective duties although they are truly in love.

I always think that Link and Malon isn't a good match because there are very few interactions between them in games. They seem just friends.

I just can't see Link with Midna because they are different species and midna seems very old for him. I see more link and midna as good companions of adventure.

To finish Link and Ilia appears a very bad choice because Ilia is too young for link and she is immature.

Originally Posted by gliderpilotgirl

What about Zelda in OoT/MM? Unlike Ruto and Saria..she is not concretely vetoed. In MM, despite the sad "farewell"...we still have hope. "I believe in my heart that a day will come when I shall meet you again...Until then take this" ( hands him the Ocarina ) And he returned to her at the end of OoT..and that was our last scene in a heavily emotional ending. That can't be ignored.

What about Medli? I agree that Tetra is the winner in this case, but Medli seemed to like Link. She was pretty friendly with him, opening up to him quite easily. And she didn't seem to want Komali to like her romantically...even falling into Link's arms conveniently in time for Komali to see it. Her sage thing was not a problem in the end too, as she is seen with Makar on the pirate ship. ( And Hyrule and the Master Sword no longer need her, as they no longer need Link and Zelda )

I never really considered Medli because I just figured she would have also been interested in the Prince. But there is a chance she wouldn't want anything to do with him and be all head over heels in love with Link if given the chance.

Originally Posted by lloydsymphonia

I still think it's Link/Zelda the best couple.
I always noticed great alchemy between them. It is obvious that Link and Zelda feel a very strong attraction for each other but they seem to refuse to interact
a true romantic relationship between them beyond of their friendship because of their respective duties although they are truly in love.

I always think that Link and Malon isn't a good match because there are very few interactions between them in games. They seem just friends.

I just can't see Link with Midna because they are different species and midna seems very old for him. I see more link and midna as good companions of adventure.

To finish Link and Ilia appears a very bad choice because Ilia is too young for link and she is immature.

Ilia and Link are the same age though, or pretty damn close, they grew up together. And when did she seem immature?

Ilia has got a immature behavior because she has got the role of sappy, little innocent naive girl during the game. she cruelly lacks of personality. She waits for link at her home
without around. She strictlydidn't anything in the game. She is just good to give to link a musical instrument to call epona.She is useless in game and although link and ilia grew up together, they aren't in love.They seem more to be childhoods friends. Link wants to protect ilia as his small sister but it is all.

Originally Posted by lloydsymphonia

Ilia has got a immature behavior because she has got the role of sappy, little innocent naive girl during the game. she cruelly lacks of personality. She waits for link at her home
without around. She strictlydidn't anything in the game. She is just good to give to link a musical instrument to call epona.She is useless in game and although link and ilia grew up together, they aren't in love.They seem more to be childhoods friends. Link wants to protect ilia as his small sister but it is all.

Alright, well... you are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine. But in my opinion, there is more there then just friendship.

I previously said malon In III, but I change my mind, I believe Zelda is the girl for link...