The Romance Thread IV: The Debate Continues

Thats cool. I think Jawohl means yes right? Anyway I would like to learn French and Italian one day. Just to let you know Mexico Spanish and Spain Spanish is the same but different at the same time. I don't care much about learning Japanese or Korean and Chinese for that matter, but I think their historical past is interesting. But I don't care about keeping up with their current pop culture fads or stuff like that.

Back on Topic: GO LINKXMALON!!

LinkxMalon is boring. =X

Originally Posted by The Goron Moron

LinkxMalon is boring. =X

Yeppers.

True..but I like it anyway.

By the way, what the heck is "SC Link"?

Uh.... any good fanfiction lately?.....

I think Jawohl means yes right? Anyway I would like to learn French and Italian one day.

Yep. And French is really hard to learn, at least for me. I'm not that fond of it, but that might be because of one of my former french teachers - most horrible teacher I've met yet.
And as a Anime and Manga fan Japanese could be really convenient - besides, I think it's a pretty cool language.

And I still don't think LinkxMalon fits.

SC Link is Soul Coul Calibur Link I suppose.
And I haven't seen any good fanfiction. But I haven't really searched, I'm reading a Manga.

Well good luck on learning your languages. As for LinkxMalon, I just like the whole normal simplicity of Link raising a family in the countryside. Plus...he can still ride out with Epona if a problematic danger came up. In a LinkxZelda, Link will be nothing much more than a wind up doll/pet ornament for Zelda. IMO Link doesn't fit living in the castle as Zelda's trophy ornament. On the other hand living at the ranch with Malon better suits his humble and unassuming personality.

Why do you always think he'd just be a trophy in a ZeLink relationship? He can very well be her equal. Really, I don't see why Zelda would dominate him more than Malon would. And for a hero who thinks about the safety of a whole country or even the world, wouldn't Malon be a bit too humble? I just don't see her understanding Link in the way Zelda can understand him.

As I said before, LinkxMalon is a lifestyle similar to realistic feudal knight/vassals of the historical past. In a LinkxZelda, Link would have to be tied down to the castle adjusting to a more awkward royal lifestyle. I doubt he is going to have time riding off with Epona and ignoring his royal duties. And it doesn't make sense for Link to be interracting more with Malon and even Nabooru than his own wife left behind in the Castle. Anyway...Malon + Epona + Ranch actually fits in a LinkxMalon. Zelda + Epona + Castle does not fit a LinkxZelda at all. So other than being a good advisor to Zelda, Link will be nothing much more than a royal sex slave/trophy pet which I guess isn't really a bad thing. But he is not going to be riding around with Epona dealing with problematic dangers when necessary as he would in a LinkxMalon.

Only if he were a "generic" king. I think, if Link were to become king, he wouldn't just abide by the rules and formalities, but still do what he thinks is right. And if he wants to ride around on Epona, he'd do just that. Besides, living on a ranch would also tie him dwn, since it's pretty hard work and I don't think Malon would accept him to just ride around and do stuff, when he's got work to do - and it's not like he's got no freetime at all when living the castle, especially since it would be a time of peace.

But since Link is proven to lift boulders anyway I doubt something as petty as simple manual labor would prevent him from riding out and dealing with a problem. And this whole Malon will be a bi*ch and will not allow him to protect her as well as the people of Hyrule when necessary makes no sense, and there is no proof that she would do such a thing. And Link doesn't possess any leadership skills that would make me believe he could actually be a King anyway. I doubt Link would pursue being a King in the first place.

I don't think Malon would be a bi*ch, just that she wouldn't be happy with Link riding around when there's tons of work to do. I doubt that she'd go "Yes, darling, just go, ride around on Epona, while I do all the work <3". And there's a difference between lifting a rock and farmwork - when Link lifts a rock he throws it away seconds after, while doing farmwork would be lifting the rock over and over again.
As for pursueing being a king - if he'd choose Zelda, he'd have to do that automatically. And especially after TP... I doubt that he'd be that bad of a leader. Not one the typical ones that you like to mention, but to me, it seems like he draws people to him and they seem to trust him unnaturally fast. I.e Sharp in MM... Instead of saying "Well, you freed my soul by playing my brother's song, but since you're a little kid I doubt that you're able to lift the curse on Ikana altogether" he says "I send you to the king." Such a person may not be the classical leader, but by having the people trust him, he could be a better ruler than one of those manly, assertive ones you like to mention.
And then, we don't even know what the normal king in Hyrule is like. In TMC, for example, the king is befriended to the Smith, a commoner, and no one seems to have a problem with Link being so casual with the Princess, so, again, I kinda doubt Link wouldn't be ale to go out and ride through the field if he wishes to do so.

Eh..I still say the "too much manual labor" arguement is definitely weak and petty. Since by your own admission Hyrule should be in relative peace, therefore Link would have more than enough free time anyway to saddle up Epona and deal with a problematic danger whenever necessary. More than likely the ranch will never be in a bind if Link leaves to maintain frontier defenses once in awhile. And I still don't think Link pursuing to be King is realistic. Ornamental trophy maybe but not a King.

This isn't a case of the world needing saving. Farming is a lot of hard work.

And games such as Harvest Moon are a perfect example of this. >_>

Yeah. I know people who have horses and cows and they have to do hard work all the time. So I don't think he'd have more freetime when working on the ranch than living in the castle. And while he may not want to pursue kingship, if he really desires to be with Zelda, having to become king (or at least some sort of prince...) won't stop him from pursueing Zelda, just like it wouldn't stop him from pursueing Ruto or like the farmwork wouldn't stop him from pursueing Malon. In the end, it depends on which woman he chooses.

Well, apparently, it would be a time of peace, so there wouldn't be much call for Link to ride out and save the day, so that pretty much throws that whole argument out the window. I'm quite certain Link would eventually become bored just returning to everyday life, and he isn't exactly fit for diplomacy, so the castle won't be too compelling, and the hard work could take his mind off his boredom, so he may opt to go back to the ranch, at least for the sake of having a place to stay and work. At this point, he is free to develop a relationship with Malon quite easily, should he so choose.

I have done farming myself and though it is hard, it isn't nearly as hard as any of you are making it out to be. I can't even lift boulders so for someone like Link something as petty as manual labor is irrelevant. Again its stupid to believe that Malon will not allow Link to ride out and deal with baddies once in awhile because he forgot to milk a stupid cow. It doesn't make sense that she would do such a thing. Whenever I rode in Lon Lon ranch in the game I never got the impression that there was always a lot of work to do. It seemed more of a place of leisure more than anything. Again...this whole unproven speculation of "too much manual labor at the ranch" is as ridiculous as me saying Zelda will be a bi*ch and not allow Link to use the bathroom until all the royal meetings have been concluded. If there is a lifestyle Link will be tied down to its most definitely the castle not the ranch.

But manual labor is more time consuming than lifting thibgs and throw them away. And Malon (and especially Talon) may not do that much work, but Ingo's working all the time.
And I didn't even say she wouldn't let him get rid of monsters... I wanted to say that your argument "If he's living in the castle, he won't have enough freetime to just ride around the fields if he wants to.", since he'd have much work to do on the farm. Sure, living in the castle would also be time consuming, but he'd still have some freetime to just ride around and visit friends... And only an idiot would be stupid enough to say that the chosen hero can't go out and fight some monsters, so I doubt anyone would try to forbid him helping Hyrule by fighting.

Now I understand what you are saying. All I was saying since the difficulty of farmwork in a REALISTIC sense is dependent on the physical ability and time management efficiency of the farmer/rancher and his family, its easier to believe that in a LinkxMalon relationship its an irrelevant non issue. Mainly because the "too much manual labor" theory is based on Link, Malon, Talon, and Ingo being too stupid and lazy. Its pointless to debate against a theory thats based on character bashing in the first place.

To me the LinkxMalon lifestyle would be more similar to a feudal knight/vassal of REALISTIC historical times. Its not nearly as complicated as some stubbornly ditzy & airheaded Zelink fangirls make it out to be with laughably unrealistic vast amounts of manual labor at the ranch. I think in a LinkxZelda in a REALISTIC sense, Link would be a great advisor to Zelda on military matters and knowledge on the common people/diverse races of Hyrule. But I think his riding around with Epona time would be limited due to a royal lifestyle in needing to help Zelda co rule in the castle.

He probably realistically wouldn't even be too good at military matters since he's so used to just run in swinging his sword at monsters (exaggerated, but not too inaccurate).