'The Legend of Zelda' - movie.

quite amazing i hope everything goes well for you

i would like to see a majora's mask kinda dark part in the movie like an ikana canyon scene or somthing that would be quite cool

Originally Posted by Raian

I always wondered what it would be like to make a Resident Evil movie based on its film noir storyline. I know it wouldn't get the same audience, which is the main reason why we'll never see it, but still...

Back from the world of dreams, I think the main issue that we have to overcome is how to bring out the charm of the Zelda universe. Having a large kingdom where the heroes walk across it has already been done in Lord of the Rings. If you try to do that again, then people will be quick to label it as a LotR imitator. Yet the Kingdom of Hyrule is, for the most part, exactly like the LotR kingdom, albeit more circular than linear. I, in all honesty, don't find the land of Hyrule charming in comparison with LotR.

And this is why I feel apprehensive about a "medieval fantasy epic". It's been done. A "Zelda fantasy epic" hasn't been done though... Maybe we should start looking at that.

No quite so actually!
Star Trek - Star wars, both similar concepts, but very different. sure there was some contraversy but in the end no one minded.

Lord of the rings - Narnia, Pretty much the same. I think any fantasy is intitled into what ever it wants really. ( of course, something original too )

Either way, it doesn't matter, the themes and such would all be very different from Lord of the rings anyway. No one would be able to think too similar anyways by itself. I hear a lot of "A Zelda film should be like Lord of the Rings!" etc etc, but thats something i really want to tear away from.

But more to the point, Zelda has been about to some extend travelling, no?
I'm having trouble with this, in terms of map plotting geographically, but i want Link to have to go through these different locations, and some, just accidently. Unlike the games, i don't want Hyrule castle with in a few moments travelling, Hyrule castle should be, and expressed as the furthest location from home ( yet? )

By the end of the film(s) i want to achieve sumblinally that Link has went to many familiar locations, rounding up the 'zelda' theme. Of course, i definatly don't want him going from one to one, premeditated like the games, trying to find something, no no. It's the terrains that either help him, or stop him from getting where he wants. Traveling i doubt will cause too much 'THIS IS LORD OF THE RINGS', but cause it was never aimed that way. They will have much as a point of traveling being a theme in lord of the rings, than swords being in zelda - it doesn't matter.

Star Wars and both share a single common theme; that they exist in space. Just about everything else in the universes are different from each other. Narnia and Lord of the Rings are both based on Western medieval fantasy; yet just about everything else in the universes are different from each other.

The Legend of Zelda is partly based on Western medieval fantasy, but owes a lot of its influences to various different cultures. For example, Gerudo clothing and symbology reflects an Arabian heritage, yet the all-female warrior society is a carbon-copy of the mythical Amazons, down to their taking boyfriends from other lands. Zelda is unique because it doesn't base itself solely on one cultural standard, as people seem to assume. To make a Zelda film, we should identify what you would see in a Zelda game that you would never see in LotR or Narnia, and build on that to further establish on Zelda's charm.


About travelling, now I actually understand what you're trying to achieve, and I understand how you intend to build a trilogy using the structure. I'll go with this, but I want to make one simple point as well. If Link visibly learns a moral lesson in every new chapter/location, it will look artificial. Make sure that whatever evil Link faces continues to build the overall storyline until the climax is reached. Also, I recommend that you tell part of the story from another perspective, since that better creates the feeling of an epic story. I'll discuss some details with you when I can get some time on MSN.

Originally Posted by Raian

You can sell films on the title alone. Was there any reason to remake the Omen? No, but it made money all the same. In the case of Tomb Raider, Lara Croft's breasts sold the games and the films.

Originally Posted by Janus

Raian beat me to it about Tomb Raider.
Resident Evil makes films because it can offer nonstop violence.

That is for the most part true about those movies, but what about those abismal Mortal Kombat movies? Violence again I suppose, but the point I am trying to make is that they make movies about these games, so getting someone to fund a Zelda movie does not seem quite so bleak.

Why don't you just make up your own fantasy instead of a Zelda movie?

Look at George Lucas, he wanted to make a "Flash Gordon" film, but couldn't get the rights to it, so he made his own Sci-fi adventure, and look what that turned out to be.

Originally Posted by Johnny K.

Why don't you just make up your own fantasy instead of a Zelda movie?

Look at George Lucas, he wanted to make a "Flash Gordon" film, but couldn't get the rights to it, so he made his own Sci-fi adventure, and look what that turned out to be.

Because i feel I'm the one to take on this project, and i fear anyone else might do a shameful job! I couldn't let my favorite game be turned into something terrible.

Originally Posted by super-fergus

Because i feel I'm the one to take on this project, and i fear anyone else might do a shameful job! I couldn't let my favorite game be turned into something terrible.

That's pretty selfish, I'm sure there are many other people out there that can make a Zelda film as good as you can.

And what will you do if you can't get the rights, despite all your hard work? If you have written a huge script, and don't get rights, where will all that hard work go? You need to walk before you run, baby.

Originally Posted by Smeezette

And what will you do if you can't get the rights, despite all your hard work? If you have written a huge script, and don't get rights, where will all that hard work go? You need to walk before you run, baby.

... you seriously think I didn't think about the rights?
Besides that, Nintendo themselves wants to produce any of their franchises of films, so If they are the ones producing it... I mightn't need to worry about rights. If I do need to get them either way, I'll sure as hell get them.

This life isn't just some world with a happy ending. Countless fans must've asked for the rights to make a Zelda film, and they were turned down. You most likely will get the same result if you don't take part in some major films. Let's see here...to get the rights, you'd need

• A Master's degree in whatever field you wish to take part in
• A ton of expieriance(sp?) (I'm estimating 7-20 years)
• A worthy plot

So you see, you can't just pop out of school expecting a "yes" from Nintendo. You'd need to wait a looong time. Then you MIGHT get a yes.

Also, I really want to know what you're going to do with that script of yours if you can't get the rights.

Originally Posted by Smeezette

[list][*] A Master's degree in whatever field you wish to take part in

Actually, you don't need film school to direct films.

Again, I do studies in film - I know this already, and have said this to you and many others.

Of course I'll need a good few successful movies on my belt before i can.
I want to be a film director regardless of a zelda film. But doesn't work as how you put it.

It's a rare case to see anyone with a masters degree in film, and if they was, they wouldn't be doing a Zelda film. I'm going to be attending a few film schools, but thats far from the point, it just helps.

Success in film is how resourceful and how talented you are, not about qualifications. I've seen people that have gone to the highest forms of film education and still have nothing, where some have not attended any film education at all and done brilliantly , eg. Peter Jackson.

It's harsh, if start with something simple and good, you'll go up, with more money to use, and so on. Even at the top, and you make a failure, you'll never work with a movie again, rarely a second chance.

As I said before, I have already a few scripts I'd like to do.
I don't expect to make this film any time soon, I'm not a fool.
I wouldn't not attempt until i could have it produced in all it's full glory.

And you would be wrong there - Nintendo are actually very willing to proceed with a film for some of their franchise. Where as Hideo Kojima is strickly uptight about it, and has had many offers. He is also producing the metal gear solid film.

Nintendo just have to be careful who they let do it. lets pray it's not Uwe Bol.

If I don't get the rights and such, I'll keep working my way up until they will!
I've dreamt of this since i ever laid my hands on Zelda.

Originally Posted by Johnny K.

Actually, you don't need film school to direct films.

True, and a valid point to the likes of many successful directors, But it is a fact that with some sort of qualification you will be trusted by producers a lot more.

Those successful directors that didn't attend any film school worked intensely hard to get there. Which is a pity to the lazy ones that think they'll follow the same path.

Originally Posted by super-fergus

True, and a valid point to the likes of many successful directors, But it is a fact that with some sort of qualification you will be trusted by producers a lot more.

Eh, not always.

If two directors pitch two different ideas to a producer, one has a film degree, the other one doesn't. The producer would most likely go with the one that has the better idea.

Originally Posted by super-fergus

Those successful directors that didn't attend any film school worked intensely hard to get there. Which is a pity to the lazy ones that think they'll follow the same path.

You're going to have to work hard no matter what path you take.



Anyway, now that I think about it: Zelda should just stay a game series, not a movie series. The fun of Zelda is gameplay and exploring, not really the story. A movie is about the story, rather the other way around. Miyamoto always said story came last when they made Zelda.

Originally Posted by Johnny K.

Miyamoto always said story came last when they made Zelda.

No, he said the storyline was important to establishing the nature of the adventure. What he doesn't care about is the timeline; big difference.

You sure? I remember someone saying they work on the story last in Zelda games. I definitely remember them saying story, not timeline.

Originally Posted by Johnny K.

You sure? I remember someone saying they work on the story last in Zelda games. I definitely remember them saying story, not timeline.

The storyline is not fundamental to the game development; it changes as the game develops. You can argue that the storyline is not important in contrast with the importance placed on storyline in other games, but not that it is considered unimportant, full stop.

Originally Posted by Raian

The storyline is not fundamental to the game development; it changes as the game develops. You can argue that the storyline is not important in contrast with the importance placed on storyline in other games, but not that it is considered unimportant, full stop.

Of course, I never said the story was not important, I just said they're not as focused about it as they are gameplay. For this movie of his, we're going to see Link travel through Hyrule and go though Temple's for 3 movies?

There should be a "hook" other than saying it's an adaption of the Zelda video games. While there are Zelda fans, what's going to attract non-Zelda fans? It would take a lot of money to make a Zelda movie, and it's gotta make all that money back to consider other movies.

So, please, tell us the idea of the trilogy. I want to hear it.

Originally Posted by Johnny K.

There should be a "hook" other than saying it's an adaption of the Zelda video games. While there are Zelda fans, what's going to attract non-Zelda fans? It would take a lot of money to make a Zelda movie, and it's gotta make all that money back to consider other movies.

I have asked similar questions myself. Because super-fergus doesn't want people "stealing" his ideas, he's not going to say them publically. But I'll be discussing these ideas on MSN to make a generally appealing film for non-Zelda fans as well.

Originally Posted by Raian

I have asked similar questions myself. Because super-fergus doesn't want people "stealing" his ideas, he's not going to say them publically. But I'll be discussing these ideas on MSN to make a generally appealing film for non-Zelda fans as well.

Then what's the point of this thread? To boast at how he's going to make a Zelda film that only he knows? That's pretty pointless if you ask me, it's all right for him to take our ideas, but we can't see his.

In all honesty, who's so high up that they'll take his idea and then go and make a Zelda movie? There are hundreds of Zelda fanfics that would make pretty good movies, but people don't seem to mind them. Why would we care?

I'm willing to share some ideas, and get feedback and see what others would like to see in a zelda film, after all, this film isn't just for me.

There's plenty things I'm not going to mention though.
Not exactly because I think people will steal them, but
what is there to look forward to if you knew it?


Hahaha, trust me... we won't be seeing Link travel through temple after temple, hahaha.