'The Legend of Zelda' - movie.

You realize a talking protagonist would piss off the fans .

And Link being a "foolish kid, with a heart of gold" is a cliché. Why isn't he a dark bad@$$, like Sasuke Uchiha, or Vegeta? This is a huge flaw in the plot. You need to break from the norm, and make something that the fans wouldn't see comin'.

Oh, and the love idea is a "no-no".

Originally Posted by Smeezette

You realize a talking protagonist would piss off the fans .

And Link being a "foolish kid, with a heart of gold" is a cliché. Why isn't he a dark bad@$$, like Sasuke Uchiha, or Vegeta? This is a huge flaw in the plot. You need to break from the norm, and make something that the fans wouldn't see comin'.

Oh, and the love idea is a "no-no".

Because none of that is 'zelda' and is in context.
You might as well ask for Link to weild a gun for that matter.
Link is not a bad ass.
Link is a hero.
Any other would drive away from what zelda truley is.
You can't rip away from character like that.
I have a lot of surprises that 'the fans wouldn't see coming'
But all are in context.

Super-fergus, I've linked you to the Four Swords Plus manga in a PM. If anything is a good basis for a film, it is the manga.

Link has a canon (Wind Waker) , not a gun, silly Fergus.

Originally Posted by Smeezette

Link has a canon (Wind Waker) , not a gun, silly Fergus.

No, i didn't mean that.
I meant in context of that the previous statement didn't stick to the context of zelda. Thus an example would be to give Link a gun, which would also be out of context.

I wasn't referring to any particular gun or canon, that's beside the point your missing.

About the whole "romance" issue, I have some thoughts.

Hardcore Zelda fans (those who study the timeline, study which event took place when, etc.) are in the minority of those who are just fans of Zelda. And plain vanilla fans are arguably in the minority of video game players. And video game players are also arguably in the minority of the US population, let alone the world population.

Super-Fergus, when you say that your movie needs to appeal to a wide audience, I absolutely applaud that. You're right on track! There were only a few people who had read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but when the movies came out, they saw a tremendous growth in book sales, not to mention the sheer amount of people who rushed to the box office to see these movies. The LOTR trilogy appealed to a very wide audience, but in the process, sacrifices to the storyline had to be made. There were several deviations from the book in the movie, but in my personal opinion, these things just made LOTR better. One deviation would be that of the relationship between Aragorn and Arwen. Arwen did NOT appear that many times in the book! And yet, Arwen was much of the driving force behind Aragorn's actions. Yes, Aragorn fought to free his country from the oppresion of Sauron, but Arwen was still in his thoughts, even when he tried to leave her (in the movie, not the book!).

Back to the issue of "romance" in Zelda. If a Zelda movie were to appeal to a wide audience, would it be in the best interests of the audience to question whether Link had a relationship with anyone? This idea appeals only to a few people in the Zelda fan world; all you need to do is to head over to the Romance Thread to see that.

In Pirates of the Caribbean, Elizabeth and Will were very obviously, completely and head over heels in love with each other. But there were always the slightest hints that Elizabeth could have been in love with Jack, or could have been in love with Norrington. But you always had Elizabeth and Will's love to come back to base on. To me, this was an extremely satisfying point to the movie, and the possibility of other romances was delightfully tittilating. Yet this romance (and possible romances) did nothing to detract from the action/adventure parts of PotC. In fact, the part in World's End where Will and Elizabeth are shouting their wedding vows and fighting a battle was one of the most touching parts of the film.

It seems to me that movie-going people don't particularly enjoy "maybe they were in love, maybe they weren't, it's up to you to decide." People go to the movies to escape from life for an hour or two, and many like to be told what to think. Take for instance, the film Blade Runner. When this one was released, it was considered extremely avant garde for it's time. Why? Because it tried to make the audience draw their own conclusions. Now, it's a multi-million dollar moneymaker with three studios fighting over the rights for it, but back in 1982, it was shot down like nothing else. Life is in the air for all of us at one time or another, most especially our relationships. A movie needs to be grounded in something like romance for it to appeal to wider audiences.

I think it is possible for Link and Zelda to fall in love, and still keep the action hot. If it the balance between Link's love for Zelda and his love for Hyrule is kept, then there shouldn't be a problem. And it doesn't even have to necessarily be Zelda that Link loves. Part of maturing is learning to care for someone more deeply than one cares for himself/herself, and I believe that a love for Link would reflect his growth in a very good way if it were portrayed correctly. IMO, my concern would be that Link would actually come across as selfish if all he did was fight Ganon's forces and never actually commit to anyone. It might show that all Link cared about was action and Hyrule, and that might come across negatively to many people.

I hope that I have not showed myself to be a know-it-all, because I am not. When I wrote this, I was not trying to be arrogant or push my view on anyone, especially not you, Super-Fergus. I just had some thoughts that needed to be voiced.

I wish you the very best of luck, Super-Fergus. I understand that films can be difficult to make, but when they are through, they can be very rewarding. A quick question though: were you plannning to release this in independent theatres first and then move it to commercial theatres, or just release it into commercial?

Good luck in your endeavors!

Umm...Official Zelda Movie Thread.
I'm not sure now whether this new thread needs a lock or not.

^SD, this thread is about a specific (and possible at most) project, albeit one in the future. It's kind of a gray area, but I prefer to keep this one open.

Love_of_Zelda certainly put things better than I ever could have.

Fergus, how old is Link going to be? I was imagining him about 17 or older, so I assumed he'd have an interest in girls.
Heck, his age would affect the appeal to audiences. I wouldn't be surprised if it were considered a kid's movie if Link is a child. Peter Pan gets away with it simply because it's a widely known classic (yet Hook was better than the recent film, in my opinion).

this thread is about super-fergus movie idea he has.
so it should stay.
to deal with a love story, you would have to have adult link. You don't nessesealy have to be Zelda and Link, as various people around the zelda universe have shown attraction to link.

Originally Posted by super-fergus

Link is not a bad ass.
Link is a hero.

This is true. All of these quests and adventures are supposed to be dropped in Link's lap. I have seen nothing in his character to make him venture out into the world, and raid temples and dungeons. However Link is also supposed to be completely willing to take up these tasks, even though it puts him in danger.

As far as a love interest goes....Link should not be a pimp or anything. Having a few girls in his village express interest in him, while he is very casual about everything sounds like it would fit Link well.

Love_of_zelda - Thank you very much! I enjoyed reading your lengthy paragraphs on your thoughts and views, and it's no doubt that you have some insight to this matter.

While i was writing it, i was slightly narrow about the idea for a while.
I hear so many threads and posts about the love issue between the two.
Things like, they are 'suicidal' for each other , real hard core material, Which put me off quite a bit!

Then i started thinking that considering all those posts, there IS a majority that like to believe there is a love story behind the two, so i couldn't help but appeal to that.

Trying not to spoil, my intention would be that they really do find each other attractive, but their personalities cloud each other from seeing this. Zelda, a princess who has always kept strong and independent, being a member of the royal family tries to believe that such a scruffy boy is the least likely prince.
And visa versa for Link, he doesn't intend to start anything with girls. Especially a 'stuck up, big headed know it all' - as Link might say!

This would what would portray from the start, but would evolve. It becomes inevitable that Link's resourcefulness, wit and courage influcence zelda, in which she begins to let go of the concept that 'all scruffy boys are trouble' and is yet some what attracted to this wild, adventurous boy. Not because of his looks, but it's what she really dreams of, being confined to the castle walls, being guarded closely every day. She wants to taste the freedom that Link gets everyday. A prince and the pauper scenario slightly!

Link gets some what hostile when it seems Zelda can piece a puzzle faster than Link can, something that Link over looks and begins to see in zelda.

Their relationship really builds on them trying to get along in order to save hyrule, rather than them wanting to be together.

Love_of_hyrule , if you wish to talk about the story more in detail, be sure to PM me!

Originally Posted by Janus

Fergus, how old is Link going to be? I was imagining him about 17 or older, so I assumed he'd have an interest in girls.
Heck, his age would affect the appeal to audiences. I wouldn't be surprised if it were considered a kid's movie if Link is a child. Peter Pan gets away with it simply because it's a widely known classic (yet Hook was better than the recent film, in my opinion).

He would start the first film as 12/13 , then pacing on to 14/15 in the next, until finally 16/17 in the last.

As the story evolves, Link Matures not only in form, but by mind too.

Originally Posted by super-fergus

Thank you very much Mrs.Ganondorf!
I always considered Link was far too much of a tomboy to worry about girls,
He just wants to live a life of adventure!! Never has Link 'fallen in love' with zelda in the games, and nor is it intended.

Even if Zelda was throwing herself to Link, He'd rather be climbing trees, fighting moblins and exploring than get involved with "a smelly girly girl" Haha.

Try to imagine the zelda movie as:
The Goonies
Spider-man
Willow
Starwars

all rolled into one Medieval/fantasy adventure!!
For any of you that haven't seen willow i suggest you watch it!

Haha, ah yes! 'Norn Iron' is a nice place, but i don't see my career towering here. It is a great place to grow up though

That's sounds excellent, super-fergus. I'm glad you feel the same way. If your film is going to be like the ones you've mentioned, I can't wait to watch it! Haven't seen Willow and never heard of it. Should check that out.

Now of course, I don't want you to do it the way I would have made a Zelda film. I find all other posters' ideas here very compelling too. Tell, me super-fergus, have you begun the manuscript? Is Ganondorf there too?

As for Norn Iron, I don't see it being a big place for film-makers, but where you're going sounds ambitious and promising. I wish you the best of luck!!

Originally Posted by Mrs Ganondorf

That's sounds excellent, super-fergus. I'm glad you feel the same way. If your film is going to be like the ones you've mentioned, I can't wait to watch it! Haven't seen Willow and never heard of it. Should check that out.

Now of course, I don't want you to do it the way I would have made a Zelda film. I find all other posters' ideas here very compelling too. Tell, me super-fergus, have you begun the manuscript? Is Ganondorf there too?

As for Norn Iron, I don't see it being a big place for film-makers, but where you're going sounds ambitious and promising. I wish you the best of luck!!

A Zelda film wouldn't be Zelda with out Ganondorf!
At the moment, im making pieces up, but not in a pesific order, so not much is concrete yet. This allows me to change the plot and be flexible with it. i won't start fitting the pieces until I'm certain it's right, down to the last detail!

Tom Hanks is shooting a film here soon! So who knows!
Thanks for your views and support!

You might have to have a couple of credible movies under your belt before you can go and get the rights for a Zelda movie... All I have to say is that a love interest is almost mandatory nowadays; it's annoying. If the main character and the love interest have no chemistry, it can really muck things up. You have to be really careful when handling that sort of thing. I usually prefer there not to be an extensive romantic subplot, but when you're catering to the general public, who knows?

Link always came off to me as a dutiful person; and if handled correctly, characters like that can be really compelling. He always seemed to be someone with a strong drive to set things right, even after he screws up. I always see him having a vulnerable, or naive side as well. I'd like to see Link portrayed this way, but of course, there are a lot of different interpretations out there for Link and you can't please everyone.

Don't you need nintendos permission to make a zelda movie........-.-

Of course you do!
Well you need to buy the rights off them anyway.

After the PM discussion, I wish you good luck on your film. There is one last burning question though; How emotionally complex are the characters going to be, and how are you intending to depict this on screen?

Some more than others.
The audience relate to Link through the films.
Link will go through many scenarios expressing this.

I haven't written it all, so i can hardly say.

ps. I noticed people are in clans, how is this? along with other titles?

Originally Posted by super-fergus

The audience relate to Link through the films.

You're making more than one film?

Yes! Well if they'd let me.
The Vastness of Hyrule is to big to fit into 1 film.