Darknuts and Iron Knuckles

I was wondering, is there really a difference between these two creatures because to tell you the true I just classify them as the same thing. I have not to this day seen a game with both Darknuts and Iron Knuckles in it. Why the two different creatures? and are the ones in TP Darknuts or Iron Knuckles?

The ones in TP are Darknuts. Darknuts are soldiers that definitely have a kind of human like creature in them.
Iron Knuckles use an axe and are cursed suits of armor with nothing inside. But I still don't know why they are never in the same game.

Iron Knuckles are animated suits of armor- they have no flesh or body.
Darknuts have a body. I don't know why they don't appear in the same game. Maybe to avoid confusion between the two.

itd be cool to have em both in the next Zelda...with some obvious differences besides appearance...

maybe the Iron Knuckles have the highest hitpoints in the game...but kinda take the hit and walk slowly to you and their axe cannot be blocked and it takes away like 5 or 6 hearts....

while Darknuts can just be enhanced versions of their TP and tWW counterparts...

I think the reason why they added only Darknuts in TP was because if they put Iron Kunckles, they would be easier than Keese after u have the Ball and Chain....

Yea, I think they should use them both some time.

I read somewhere about Darknuts having bulldog-like faces, Wikipedia maybe? Is this true?

They do have faces resembling dogs, in WW.

I wouldn't say bulldog though.

Once its helmet is removed, the Darknut's face is shown to resemble that of a Doberman, Bull Terrier, or possibly a stylized jackal.

Originally Posted by ShadowVaati

I wouldn't say bulldog though.

Ah yes, I knew it was something of that realm.

The ones in TP are Darknuts. Darknuts are soldiers that definitely have a kind of human like creature in them.
Iron Knuckles use an axe and are cursed suits of armor with nothing inside.

Thats odd, if an Iron Knuckle has nothing inside of it how come in OoT the spirit temple sage (possessed) is the one controling the armor, thats what confused me. I think the reason they don't put them in the same game is because they are basically the same monster with slight differences, I mean the same kind of stragety is needed to kill both enemies.

I don't know. I got what I said about "animated suits of armor" from Wikipedia. (I know you didn't quote me, but I said the same thing)

I can't argue with the idea that Iron Knuckles are animated suits of armour (with the exception of Nabooru in OOT), but as for Darknuts, let's review.

"Darknut" appears to be a mistranslation, and sadly, one that has remained ever since LOZ. The Romaji (i.e. Japanese spelled out in our alphabet) of the Japanese name for Darknut translates roughly as "dakku-natto". This, to me, seems to be an attempt at "Dark Knight", which ultimately sounds better than "Darknut" ("-nut"? Come on). I could of course be wrong, but gameplay elements seem to agree. In most recent installments such as TWW, the Darknuts wear Hyrulian Knights' Crests on their belts, and know secret Knight techniques (Spin Attack and Hurricane Spin) which they perform whenever Link tries to use those moves against them. This causes me to believe that they are literally "Dark" Knights of Hyrule. As such, they would be beings of flesh. Why they appear as dog-like beasts is beyond me, however.

Originally Posted by MDK

I can't argue with the idea that Iron Knuckles are animated suits of armour (with the exception of Nabooru in OOT), but as for Darknuts, let's review.

"Darknut" appears to be a mistranslation, and sadly, one that has remained ever since LOZ. The Romaji (i.e. Japanese spelled out in our alphabet) of the Japanese name for Darknut translates roughly as "dakku-natto". This, to me, seems to be an attempt at "Dark Knight", which ultimately sounds better than "Darknut" ("-nut"? Come on). I could of course be wrong, but gameplay elements seem to agree. In most recent installments such as TWW, the Darknuts wear Hyrulian Knights' Crests on their belts, and know secret Knight techniques (Spin Attack and Hurricane Spin) which they perform whenever Link tries to use those moves against them. This causes me to believe that they are literally "Dark" Knights of Hyrule. As such, they would be beings of flesh. Why they appear as dog-like beasts is beyond me, however.

Yea, well, that's just how it works. If it is a mistranslation, then probably by the time they knew that, it was too late, so they kept it.

I think it was just to avoid confusion. In TP Darknuts are exactly the same as the Iron Knuckles in OoT, they're too alike so I guess that's why they didn't put them both in the same game.

Originally Posted by Tides

I have dark nuts and iron knuckles

...*ahem* >_> <_<

Haha... Now if you actually have something to say about this topic please do. I know you're a newb but you should post something relevant to the topic.

Originally Posted by Noxus

Haha... Now if you actually have something to say about this topic please do. I know you're a newb but you should post something relevant to the topic.

Hehe, I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

To be honest I'm not sure how much of a difference there is between the two.

Darknuts are my favorite enemies in the whole game. Especially in TP since they lose their armor and they are faster (they lose strenght though).

I enjoy fighting them too. Unlike most enemies, they're actually challenging (at first) and take more then three hits to kill. And the fact that they wear armor too.

"Darknut" appears to be a mistranslation, and sadly, one that has remained ever since LOZ. The Romaji (i.e. Japanese spelled out in our alphabet) of the Japanese name for Darknut translates roughly as "dakku-natto". This, to me, seems to be an attempt at "Dark Knight", which ultimately sounds better than "Darknut" ("-nut"? Come on). I could of course be wrong, but gameplay elements seem to agree. In most recent installments such as TWW, the Darknuts wear Hyrulian Knights' Crests on their belts, and know secret Knight techniques (Spin Attack and Hurricane Spin) which they perform whenever Link tries to use those moves against them. This causes me to believe that they are literally "Dark" Knights of Hyrule. As such, they would be beings of flesh. Why they appear as dog-like beasts is beyond me, however.

I like the name darknut much better then Dark Knight, I mean come on who wants to go around saying Dark Knight it sounds way to average and would look crummy compaired to names like Keese or Deku Baba, Moblins, Chuchus, Staflos, Armos. After saying all those names the player is going to be saying, "you look its a Dark Knight, thats an orginal name (and don't bother pointing out the fact that Chuchu is not an orginal name, I know) my point is the name Darknut really leaves an impact more then just plain old Dark Knight so I say keep it!

Yea, Dark Knight is rather...cliché isn't it?

Maybe the ball and chain guy from the ice temple was a Iron Knuckle? He was using a flail after all...I remember Iron knuckles using flails. I wish they would've brought back the moblins too...I mean I guess the guy on horseback is a Moblin....but come on...they were a normal enemie in WW.

Maybe the ball and chain guy from the ice temple was a Iron Knuckle? He was using a flail after all...I remember Iron knuckles using flails. I wish they would've brought back the moblins too...I mean I guess the guy on horseback is a Moblin....but come on...they were a normal enemie in WW.

I think the ball and chain guy was the guys from aLttP that you fight in the first hyrule catle I can't rememebr their name right now...