Kakariko in TWW

Originally Posted by DaBomb96

And I think I'll just add that if you're going to try and defy the evidence in Dragon Roost, at least use good reasoning, before saying "i gave a logical explanation to, which obvisuly means it cant be true. Therefore it cancels it out."

Dont you understand or somthing? What i said is good reasoning infact probally great reasoning because people agreed with me on my facts about why Drag Roost couldnt be Death Mountain, im still waiting for you to say something about why Dragon Roost is Death Mountain. Not something Reign and Kisiro said which might i add i proved to be not true. Oh and yea, thats all i have because thats all they really give. . .So i guess theres nothing else to turn to but to give reasoning why Drag Roost couldnt be Death Mountain. But what i did say about the tiles do you honestly think they dont look anything like the ones in Fire Temple. . . ?

Originally Posted by DaBomb96

Once again... I think I'll copy something I had in my last post...

The different look of Death Mountain isn't explained by erosion. It's explained by a different art style, by a want for change from the creators of the game.

Seriosly. Next time, try reading my post before claiming I didn't read yours.

That's obviously true, but nobody ever claimed either of these things. At least I don't remember it. If somebody did then...oops...

Not reading my posts eh? Well if you did read my posts you would of seen where i said that. oh and also about Fire Gohmas room looking "very similar" to King Dodongos. Well might i point out (again) that King Dondongos room is on the base of the mountain not at the top, so thats one thing. And also his room is square, not round. . .Doesnt have wooden ledges sticking out of the oh, tall funnel shape. Now about the art styles, of course they may of wanted a change but hang on. Not to much that things are unreconisble. Take Link and Hyrule castle for example. Similar but not exact, see where im coming from ?

Originally Posted by DaBomb96

If scientific logic is involved in these games, how come the size of Hyrule increased? How come Link looks cartoonish? How come every square mile another peak pokes out of the water, but there were never that many mountains in Ocarina of Time's overworld? Can this be explained by erosion? By science? Don't think so.

My theory is that since TWW comes after TP, and TP has larger overworld (because it has land outside of Hyrule) than the Great Sea most likely covers land outside of Hyrule. Why does no one see that in this thread or did I just miss someone? Why is people matching TWW map with OoT? It won't work, it's just plain stupid. Once TP comes out hopefully people we see my point.

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

My theory is that since TWW comes after TP, and TP has larger overworld (because it has land outside of Hyrule) than the Great Sea most likely covers land outside of Hyrule. Why does no one see that in this thread or did I just miss someone? Why is people matching TWW map with OoT? It won't work, it's just plain stupid. Once TP comes out hopefully people we see my point.

Yea but you got to remember that they have knew places in TP like the Village Link starts of in. Ive only breifly read about it, cus i dont want to spoil the game for myself.

Originally Posted by x link x

Yea but you got to remember that they have knew places in TP like the Village Link starts of in. Ive only breifly read about it, cus i dont want to spoil the game for myself.

Actually I believe he starts outside of Hyrule. I'll check to verify.

Originally Posted by x link x

Dont you understand or somthing? What i said is good reasoning infact probally great reasoning because people agreed with me on my facts about why Drag Roost couldnt be Death Mountain, im still waiting for you to say something about why Dragon Roost is Death Mountain. Not something Reign and Kisiro said which might i add i proved to be not true. Oh and yea, thats all i have because thats all they really give. . .So i guess theres nothing else to turn to but to give reasoning why Drag Roost couldnt be Death Mountain. But what i did say about the tiles do you honestly think they dont look anything like the ones in Fire Temple. . . ?

You didn't prove anything wrong. Everything Reign and Kisiro said, which is pretty much all there is, wasn't proven wrong at all. You gave stupid random comments. You even said the dragon symbol was more likely to represent Valoo than Volvagia!

The similar tiles don't mean squat. That can be blamed on coincidence. Many textures look similar to things in other games.

Not reading my posts eh? Well if you did read my posts you would of seen where i said that. oh and also about Fire Gohmas room looking "very similar" to King Dodongos. Well might i point out (again) that King Dondongos room is on the base of the mountain not at the top, so thats one thing. And also his room is square, not round. . .Doesnt have wooden ledges sticking out of the oh, tall funnel shape. Now about the art styles, of course they may of wanted a change but hang on. Not to much that things are unreconisble. Take Link and Hyrule castle for example. Similar but not exact, see where im coming from ?

Nobody ever even said that Gohma and King Dodongo's rooms were the same. We're just saying they look similar, too much to be just a coincidence. And to be honest, not saying they are, they could be the same room. It's fairly possible. You said erosion exists, didn't you? Why is it impossible for the rock to slide along the sides of the mountain, making it thinner, and sliding the sides of the mountain down so that the room was closer to the top?
Again, I don't even support that theory, but it is valid considering you specifically said erosion exists. And come on. You're saying the rooms weren't deliberately made similar just because it has wooden ledges and because it's round? The ledges are made of wooden tabs which means they were put there by somebody after OoT. Ad does the roundness even matter? It's a room with a pit of lava in the center that's in a volcano. And once again, if it were the same room, which I'm not sure about, and if erosion existed, which I doubt, why is it impossible for the room to have changed from squared to round?

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

Actually I believe he starts outside of Hyrule. I'll check to verify.

Yes, the village where he starts (tentatively named Toaru Village) is on the outskirts of Hyrule.

Originally Posted by DaBomb96

You didn't prove anything wrong. Everything Reign and Kisiro said, which is pretty much all there is, wasn't proven wrong at all. You gave stupid random comments. You even said the dragon symbol was more likely to represent Valoo than Volvagia!

The similar tiles don't mean squat. That can be blamed on coincidence. Many textures look similar to things in other games.


Nobody ever even said that Gohma and King Dodongo's rooms were the same. We're just saying they look similar, too much to be just a coincidence. And to be honest, not saying they are, they could be the same room. It's fairly possible. You said erosion exists, didn't you? Why is it impossible for the rock to slide along the sides of the mountain, making it thinner, and sliding the sides of the mountain down so that the room was closer to the top?
Again, I don't even support that theory, but it is valid considering you specifically said erosion exists. And come on. You're saying the rooms weren't deliberately made similar just because it has wooden ledges and because it's round? The ledges are made of wooden tabs which means they were put there by somebody after OoT. Ad does the roundness even matter? It's a room with a pit of lava in the center that's in a volcano. And once again, if it were the same room, which I'm not sure about, and if erosion existed, which I doubt, why is it impossible for the room to have changed from squared to round?


Yes, the village where he starts (tentatively named Toaru Village) is on the outskirts of Hyrule.

Serisouly go back and read what i said about Reign and Kisiro things. They all got proven other wise, and it wasnt stupid random comments. It was truth. . . Even he/she admits it because they didnt reply. And the tiles, you say many textures look similar to things in other games, name 5. Oh and the dragon pictures i think you dont understand my point. There resembling the word Dragon, not Valoo. Its very possible to be a warning for adventures to watch out for Dragons.

Oh and about King Dodongos Room looking "similar, too much to be just a coincidence."
Alright let me just clear this up, because you obvisuly again!, havent read my posts. So ill capitilize the differences. Firstly Ghomas room is ROUND, King Dodongos is SQUARE. Secondly Ghomas room is much TALLER than King Dodongos. Thridly there are WOODEN LEDGES/TABS (what eva floats ya boat) coming out from the side which might i mention wasnt built after OOT, it would of deffinatly been built by the Rito because of the simple fact they visit Valoo quite often. Fouthly if Dragon Roost mountain is ment to be Death Mountain. . .what is King Dodongos room then doing on the SUMMIT?! So tell me now you honestly think that King Dodongos room is "similar, too much to be just a coincidence." And you seriosuly have no idea of erosion do you. And havent quite understood what ive said about it. Oh before we go on might i just say King Dodongos room is on the base of Death Mountain. How could erosion some how push it up to the top? i mean come on. Alright now you beleive that the erosion theory is false. Then if erosion didnt exist why has the suposed Death Mountain changed so much, to much exact to be in the shape of Drag Roost

Originally Posted by x link x

Serisouly go back and read what i said about Reign and Kisiro things. They all got proven other wise, and it wasnt stupid random comments. It was truth. . . Even he/she admits it because they didnt reply. And the tiles, you say many textures look similar to things in other games, name 5. Oh and the dragon pictures i think you dont understand my point. There resembling the word Dragon, not Valoo. Its very possible to be a warning for adventures to watch out for Dragons.

Oh and about King Dodongos Room looking "similar, too much to be just a coincidence."
Alright let me just clear this up, because you obvisuly again!, havent read my posts. So ill capitilize the differences. Firstly Ghomas room is ROUND, King Dodongos is SQUARE. Secondly Ghomas room is much TALLER than King Dodongos. Thridly there are WOODEN LEDGES/TABS (what eva floats ya boat) coming out from the side which might i mention wasnt built after OOT, it would of deffinatly been built by the Rito because of the simple fact they visit Valoo quite often. Fouthly if Dragon Roost mountain is ment to be Death Mountain. . .what is King Dodongos room then doing on the SUMMIT?! So tell me now you honestly think that King Dodongos room is "similar, too much to be just a coincidence." And you seriosuly have no idea of erosion do you. And havent quite understood what ive said about it. Oh before we go on might i just say King Dodongos room is on the base of Death Mountain. How could erosion some how push it up to the top? i mean come on. Alright now you beleive that the erosion theory is false. Then if erosion didnt exist why has the suposed Death Mountain changed so much, to much exact to be in the shape of Drag Roost

Once again, you didn't prove anything wrong. Reign and Kisiro didn't admit anything by not responding. Maybe having you blindly repeat yourself without properly reading people's posts was enough for him to start ignoring you. I'm pretty close to doing the same.

Seriously. What are you ranting about? Did you really just repeat those dumb reasons why Gohma and Dodongo's rooms aren't similar? And did you really just tell me that they're not the same? I never claimed they were. Please go back and read my post while actually paying ATTENTION to my words. Maybe you'll get a clearer understanding of what I meant.

Bwha ha ha, you know whats funny. . . Firstly my reasons arn't dumb. There true, Secondly might i mention what was dumb, Was you saying how Dodongos Cavern could somehow be at the top of Death Mountain, so Im seriously woundering if you have even played OOT. Oh yea i liked it when you suposbly never said that Ghomas room and King Dodongos room were the same. Hang on i remember reading your post where you said they were "similar, too much to be just a coincidence." But hang on, doesnt that mean that i do read your posts, and maybe your the one that should go back and read not only mine but your own while actually paying ATTENTION to my words.

So see, heres your problem, maybe you dont understand what im trying to say or somthing but theres no need to repeat anything because youve already been and o hate saying it, proven wrong. Look Reign and Kisiro's things, he/she gave his points and opinions. And when i mentioned why i see i cant be true he/she didnt repeat himself and said i was wrong but only went on to find some other reasons. Which possibly means without saying, that i had a good point so it rules what ever he said out.

Firstly, I'm a guy, x link x. Secondly, I never replied because I very rarely come to the Zelda sections. I'm a Spriter.

I still stand by my theories, no matter what you say. However, no matter what is said, the original thread point is disproven. kakariko is not Windfall, as even if it is Death Mountain that is Fire Mountain, Kakariko is just too far west. Nonetheless, you just make random decisions without any backup. Such as, you believe that I didn't reply because I was disproven. Eh, wrong. You use barely any backup in your theories, Zelda or not.

Originally Posted by Reign and Kisiro

Firstly, I'm a guy, x link x. Secondly, I never replied because I very rarely come to the Zelda sections. I'm a Spriter.

I still stand by my theories, no matter what you say. However, no matter what is said, the original thread point is disproven. kakariko is not Windfall, as even if it is Death Mountain that is Fire Mountain, Kakariko is just too far west. Nonetheless, you just make random decisions without any backup. Such as, you believe that I didn't reply because I was disproven. Eh, wrong. You use barely any backup in your theories, Zelda or not.

Yea kk thx didnt want to be sexest or anything. Anyway. . .

Ok well yea i agree that Windfall isnt Kakariko. I guess Kakariko was just flooded and people have to face that. And i dont make random comments, it would be nice if you could give an example of my 'random coments' oh and i never said that it was a fact you didnt reply because you were disproven. But if you read, i said it was possible, not certin. I never knew you were a spriter. . . And didnt you read any of the other posts? I mean Zoras Domain or somthing just rose out of the water And you say my coments are just pulled from no where, come on.

Yeah, that was a little over-the-top comment on my last post.

Anyway, we all agree that the thread point was dissproven long ago. Since there's no more to it, this thread can be locked, agreed? A new thread on whether Fire Mountain or Death Mountain is Dragon Roost should be started to continue this theory.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I sorta agree. Kakoroki is smaller though. But wait! the graveyard from Oot os sorta like the forest in WW. I could see that.

Originally Posted by x link x

Bwha ha ha, you know whats funny. . . Firstly my reasons arn't dumb. There true, Secondly might i mention what was dumb, Was you saying how Dodongos Cavern could somehow be at the top of Death Mountain, so Im seriously woundering if you have even played OOT. Oh yea i liked it when you suposbly never said that Ghomas room and King Dodongos room were the same. Hang on i remember reading your post where you said they were "similar, too much to be just a coincidence." But hang on, doesnt that mean that i do read your posts, and maybe your the one that should go back and read not only mine but your own while actually paying ATTENTION to my words.

So see, heres your problem, maybe you dont understand what im trying to say or somthing but theres no need to repeat anything because youve already been and o hate saying it, proven wrong. Look Reign and Kisiro's things, he/she gave his points and opinions. And when i mentioned why i see i cant be true he/she didnt repeat himself and said i was wrong but only went on to find some other reasons. Which possibly means without saying, that i had a good point so it rules what ever he said out.

My, oh my. This post just happens to be identical to your last.

It's you thinking your retaliations against Dragon Roost being Death Mountain have any reason or value. It's you claiming ridiculous things without evidence.

If you're not going to stop repearintg yourself, get to the point and tell me why Death Mountain is Fire Isle, just shut up.

I still stand by my theories, no matter what you say. However, no matter what is said, the original thread point is disproven. kakariko is not Windfall, as even if it is Death Mountain that is Fire Mountain, Kakariko is just too far west. Nonetheless, you just make random decisions without any backup. Such as, you believe that I didn't reply because I was disproven. Eh, wrong. You use barely any backup in your theories, Zelda or not.

Of course Kakariko is Windfall! Windfall is right next to Dragon Roost as Kakariko was next to Death Mountain. Since Dragon Roost is Death Mountain, the residents ran up along the mountainside during the flood, hence, Windfall is right next to Dragon Roost. Don't know if it's been mentioned before, but have you noticed the theme of Windfall resembles the one to Kakariko?

You said you stand by your theories, so I don't know why I'm trying, but hey.

Originally Posted by x link x

Soz about the late reply, i forgot to do it. Now, firstly you say that all i said is rubbish, but really? I mean your Gerudo theory on outset island. . .Come on. Now what i say is from logical evidence and what you say is from your own stupid theorys.

And what do you mean you can walk to Ganons tower faster than you can sail? When could you ever sail to Ganons tower? Link was never trapped in Termania and never died there either [*spoiler]you clearly see him leaving there after the game[*spoiler]

Now about Windfall secretly being Kakariko well cant we all face Kakariko is gone, Windfall might have some people that origentated from Kakariko, id say Windfall was just built by the survivors. Jabu Jabu didt turn the zoras into rito, i mean think about as if he would. I actually think the Ritos and Zora thing was a bad idea. But anyway. . . Oh and the kokiri were changed into the koroks because of the flood, why would the Deku tree, which might i mention is dead decide to do it? The Gorons would never of left Dragon Roost because of Valoo, concidering Dragon Roost isnt Death Mountain anyway, and the majoraity of there race died. There is still some seen around but farely rarely.

The kokiri changed themselves into the koroks because of the absence of thier god, their father, the Great Deku Tree. and when the Deku Tree sprout was planted after the original died.

Now about Windfall secretly being Kakariko well cant we all face Kakariko is gone, Windfall might have some people that origentated from Kakariko, id say Windfall was just built by the survivors.

That's exactly it. Windfall is Kakariko. Not literally, but it was obviously built by the same people who pushed their civilization up along Death Mountain. Again, I guess the only evidence is the music resemblance, but isn't that enough?

Originally Posted by DaBomb96

My, oh my. This post just happens to be identical to your last.

It's you thinking your retaliations against Dragon Roost being Death Mountain have any reason or value. It's you claiming ridiculous things without evidence.

If you're not going to stop repearintg yourself, get to the point and tell me why Death Mountain is Fire Isle, just shut up.



Of course Kakariko is Windfall! Windfall is right next to Dragon Roost as Kakariko was next to Death Mountain. Since Dragon Roost is Death Mountain, the residents ran up along the mountainside during the flood, hence, Windfall is right next to Dragon Roost. Don't know if it's been mentioned before, but have you noticed the theme of Windfall resembles the one to Kakariko?

You said you stand by your theories, so I don't know why I'm trying, but hey.

No my last post exculding this one was not identical to the one you quoted, the last post i did was no. 91 maybe should you read ALL the posts before posting yourself. And even if it was maybe similar to another i did. I just have to repeat myself because you dont understand what im saying. And im not claiming ridiculas thing without evidence. Ive alread told you to do and ill do it again, tell me what im saying without any evidence which is so 'ridiculas'. And i already told you that i havent got alot for fire mountain being Death Mountain. But i at least have enough on Dragon Roost to say that it isnt Death Mountain. I wont you to tell me why you think Fire Mountain isnt Death Mountain. And if Kakariko moved, witch im not saying they didnt. Why wouldnt they be on Dragon Roost island isntead of someother mountain top. And also the theme of Windfall does resemble the one to Kakriko but that only means that there is a good chance that Kakriko are the ancestors or whateva to Windfall. Not that Kakariko live on Death Mountain.

And no i dont stand by my theorys, if someone said something which was logical and could make sense. I would agree with them, because theres no point beleiving in whats not true. Thats defeating the purpose of discussing these things.

Originally Posted by HurricaneSpin23

The kokiri changed themselves into the koroks because of the absence of thier god, their father, the Great Deku Tree. and when the Deku Tree sprout was planted after the original died.

Well the only thing i can say about this, why wouldnt of they have done, If they could, after the tree died and not seven years later. The other thing why wouldnt they wont to keep there new Deku Tree Sprout? I would kill myself if my dad died. Oh and i dont think the Deku Tree is the Kokiris farther but there protector. Anyway I was thinking it happend because they left the forest, because of the flood. But there not exactly out of the forest there just in the same atmosphere (above it) The other thing it doesnt mention how they die, If they just fall over or what? or if it was just like a myth the Deku tree told them so they wouldnt fall into the violence of the real world. But what could happen is that they turn into a tree. I say this because of the butlers brother or whoever it is at the start of MM. You know the dead deku.

And if Kakariko moved, witch im not saying they didnt. Why wouldnt they be on Dragon Roost island isntead of someother mountain top. And also the theme of Windfall does resemble the one to Kakriko but that only means that there is a good chance that Kakriko are the ancestors or whateva to Windfall. Not that Kakariko live on Death Mountain.

I'm not even completely sure of what you're trying to say, but I think you're getting me wrong. The people at Kakariko didn't even necessarily go up along Death Mountain itself. If they did they'd be living at Dragon Roost (or Fire Isle, whatever you believe is Death Mountain). Maybe they went up some different peak in the Mountain Range surrounding Death Mountain. That would be why Death Mountain and Windfall would be separate islands.

Originally Posted by HurricaneSpin23

i strongly beleive that Windfall Island in TWW is really Kakariko from Oot.
Both Kakariko and Windfall have a windmill. And both towns seem oddly alike with their many stairs and that peaceful, happy feeling that both towns give you. also Windfall is right near Dragon Roost Island which is obviously Death Mountain. and also remember that Kakariko is quite high above the ground, high enough that if, say, a massive flood occured the town could become and island.

Kakiriko Village and Death Mountain are under the sea, so how can that be?

You think too much.

Originally Posted by kman

You think too much.

If you ask me... you all are over theorising and thinking TOO damn much!

"Ahemn!" Now here me out:

The King of Hyrule told the Hero of Winds in the Chamber of the Master Sword that there ancestors were the chosen people from Hyrule to settle on the mountaintops. Thus the gods sealed Hyrule away and then flooded around there world. Now thinking back to what HeroOfTime5 said, we may be dealing with the Great Sea being over another area of Hyrule that we did not visit in OoT. A mountainous region of Hyrule's country that we may yet see on TP's overworld Atlas. Kind of like Hyrule had to areas of inhbitance in the LoZ and AoL. The Hylian Atlas of AoL that featured the lands north of the Death Mountain range featured massively covered mountain ranges where people could have fled to during the Great Flood. So the area we see the Great Sea cover in WW may be over this new area of Hyrule we don't visit in OoT. So now Kakiriko cannot possible be located on this mountainous region where you have been stating Dragon Roost Island and Windfall Island lay on the Great Sea. Kakiroko was located on the base region of Death Mountain, therefore it is most likely that it was sealed and/or flooded over by water, thus does not hint any existance in the region of Hyrule under the Great Sea in WW.

Why ANY of you would theorise this is beyound common sense reasoning that most of you have been directing yourselves away from and going to the point of critizising each others grammar. But believe what you want to believe. I just waisted my time reader this thread.

In this thread I notice people are trying to prove things that can't possibly be proven at this given time. How come no one sees this? I'm sure some of you lik LOZH see though. BTW how come this thread isn't even in the timeline section?