What ever happened to Ikana?

In Majora's Mask there is a land called Ikana Valley to the East. A dark place of mystery and death. The whole valley consists of the un-dead but there is reminence of a vast society and kingdom so what happened to it? There is a few things we do know about it:

1. Ikana obviously had a great and large army and the Skull Keeta must've been their general.
2. Ikana was built around Stone Tower which was built by the gods, not the people of Ikana.
3. Flat and Sharp were the Royal Composers and Sharp betrayed his brother, Flat.
4. There was an opposing nation that sent the Garo, ninjas, to go spy on Ikana.
5. It had to be a green, lush place because of the river flowing through it.
6. There was a grand palace where the king, Igos du Ikana, made his throne.

So what happened? Did the kingdom become so corrupt that the gods decided to curse all of them? And what happened to all the people living there? Did they go into the well and get turned into Gibdos? How did Ikana, which is obviously such a beautiful place, become so dead?

Perhaps when Skull Kid got the mask he attacked or something. Probably defending it they lost and someone or something attacked and killed everyone making them Gibdos and Garus. You know since Twinmold was in the temple theres a chance he ripped through it and could've destroyed everything and then the girl and father moved in but Majora made him a Gibdo. Thats what I always thought.

Originally Posted by Ghost of Shadow

Perhaps when Skull Kid got the mask he attacked or something. Probably defending it they lost and someone or something attacked and killed everyone making them Gibdos and Garus. You know since Twinmold was in the temple theres a chance he ripped through it and could've destroyed everything and then the girl and father moved in but Majora made him a Gibdo. Thats what I always thought.

I have a feeling this one didn't have anything to do with Majora's Mask. Ikana Valley had been desolate for a long time before Link or Majora ever got there. It's pretty obvious. There's more to it, I believe. I might not be right, but it seems pretty logical. Sharp did sell his soul to Majora but that was after both Sharp and Flat were dead, I think. The details are pretty vague in MM.

Well do we have any clue on when Twinmold was created or how he was created? Also wasn't Majora a demon or something from a very long time before Link entered Termina? Perhaps that is where the ancient tribe lived but when it got out of control it destroyed everthing in the valley.

Originally Posted by Ghost of Shadow

Well do we have any clue on when Twinmold was created or how he was created? Also wasn't Majora a demon or something from a very long time before Link entered Termina? Perhaps that is where the ancient tribe lived but when it got out of control it destroyed everthing in the valley.

Might be. I'm pretty sure it was Garo, who was another race to the west who have disapeared by MM, that destroyed them or maybe the Garo and the Ikana were both destroyed because of something that happened. Anyway, Majora has been locked up in a mask for a while and I think he's probably been dormant for a few hundred maybe thousand years.

Well like you said in the opening post its pretty unlikely one day the river stopped and everyone died. It did look like a pretty nice village if it had more life. I still think that Twinmold may have done something to affect it. Like
Odolwa=posion water
Ghot=Long winter
Gyorg= Great Bay temple disturbince and I think water problems
Twinmold=apparently nothing
Maybe Twinmold one day was released into the village where the army with Skull Keeta as the general tried to stop it and failed. To prevent it from destroying all Termina they made a deal with the gods that if they sealed Twinmold in the Stone Tower, they would be forced into Gibdos and soldiers to Stalchilds. It does seem that Majora didn't affect it but the fact the 1st 3 are causing a problem and Twinmold isn't is weird. Other than that its probably just some natural thing.

Well I had always suspected that the entire thing was because of the Garo's. If the whole "Race in the West" thing is true, maybe the Garo's had set a curse upon the area? I had once thought that the Gibdo's (So to say myself ) were important people of the Kings army or perhaps his servants, and by serving the Western Race's enemy, the Garo's decided they should share a fate similar to the king. So at this point they turned them all into undead creatures, the King and his knights more so than the servants.

The Garo's then may have used their magic (And i got this whole magic thing from when they surround you in fire when they attack) to destroy the area and leave it in a state of destruction. Then the Gibdo's had put the Mirror sheild at the bottum of the well, and gaurded it in hopes that a hero would come to retrieve it, using his logic to solve riddles. Doing this would prove that he would be smart enough to use the shield to his advantage and be able to use it to set their beloved king free of the curse, and onto a happier afterlife.

This may sound like a fan ficiton, but it's what I always believed.
Also, not to rent a mod or anything, but doesn't this belong in the N64 Forum? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by Ghost of Shadow

Well like you said in the opening post its pretty unlikely one day the river stopped and everyone died. It did look like a pretty nice village if it had more life. I still think that Twinmold may have done something to affect it. Like
Odolwa=posion water
Ghot=Long winter
Gyorg= Great Bay temple disturbince and I think water problems
Twinmold=apparently nothing
Maybe Twinmold one day was released into the village where the army with Skull Keeta as the general tried to stop it and failed. To prevent it from destroying all Termina they made a deal with the gods that if they sealed Twinmold in the Stone Tower, they would be forced into Gibdos and soldiers to Stalchilds. It does seem that Majora didn't affect it but the fact the 1st 3 are causing a problem and Twinmold isn't is weird. Other than that its probably just some natural thing.

Gyorg didn't do anything actually. Same with Twinmold. They were just holding the Giants. Anyway, why would the gods force the people to turn into Gibdos and Stalchilds? They would've had to do something wrong for that to happen. Twinmold was only put there as a stopper for the giant because the Skull Child was angry and MM just made it worse. And, the water cleared when you turned on a machine and the long winter did seem to have something to do with Ghot but I think Ghot was messing something up in the weather system some how. I don't know, again, it's very vague.

Originally Posted by Great Gibdo

Well I had always suspected that the entire thing was because of the Garo's. If the whole "Race in the West" thing is true, maybe the Garo's had set a curse upon the area? I had once thought that the Gibdo's (So to say myself ) were important people of the Kings army or perhaps his servants, and by serving the Western Race's enemy, the Garo's decided they should share a fate similar to the king. So at this point they turned them all into undead creatures, the King and his knights more so than the servants.

The Garo's then may have used their magic (And i got this whole magic thing from when they surround you in fire when they attack) to destroy the area and leave it in a state of destruction. Then the Gibdo's had put the Mirror sheild at the bottum of the well, and gaurded it in hopes that a hero would come to retrieve it, using his logic to solve riddles. Doing this would prove that he would be smart enough to use the shield to his advantage and be able to use it to set their beloved king free of the curse, and onto a happier afterlife.

This may sound like a fan ficiton, but it's what I always believed.
Also, not to rent a mod or anything, but doesn't this belong in the N64 Forum? Just wondering.

Well, it's pretty clearly stated that the Garo's were spies. I think... might have to look it up but I really don't see much wrong there. That is a possibility.

Its just another of those things you gotta search the web and look all over for. But remember that machine was for the temple soley but killing Odolwa fixed it. Ghot did do something cause it thawed after he died. He probably lowered the sun's power to do that and yeah Gyorg just made some clouds over the temple. And why would the gods want to flood Hyrule instead of just sealing away Ganon or killing him? Like you said they give hardly any information on this. But it could just be some natural cause like I said.

Originally Posted by Ghost of Shadow

Its just another of those things you gotta search the web and look all over for. But remember that machine was for the temple soley but killing Odolwa fixed it. Ghot did do something cause it thawed after he died. He probably lowered the sun's power to do that and yeah Gyorg just made some clouds over the temple. And why would the gods want to flood Hyrule instead of just sealing away Ganon or killing him? Like you said they give hardly any information on this. But it could just be some natural cause like I said.

Would be. The owl always said the people were "desined" for something unless you fixed it. So maybe these things happened becuase the Hero of (Time?) wasn't there to save them. Maybe all these things were meant to happen. I don't know, now I'm not making sense to myself.

I just remembered something to support my theory, although you all may not agree.
In the Castle if you remember, wearing the Gibdo's mask in front of Redeads would for some reason make them dance. Could it be that these redeads were servants of the king used for artistic purposes? And why is it that they only dance to the Gibdo's mask? Could ti be that Gibdo's were higher ranking people that could command the redeads to dance as well? So maybe the thing about the gibdo's being servants or maybe even Dukes or lords or whahtever they are called. Maybe it was Nobles? Anyway this can further my point.

Originally Posted by Ghost of Shadow

And why would the gods want to flood Hyrule instead of just sealing away Ganon or killing him?

I always believed that since Ganon has a peice of the triforce inside of him, in other words a fragment of the gods Power, He could be immune to death, but could be sealed away in another realm. But even in another Realm he still had that peice of triforce, and was perhaps able to use his limited god like Powers, to escape countless times.

Very good point but if you use a fire arrow on a Gibdo it becomes a Redead. Its just a Redead in a mummy suit.

Still, that does not mean it's class as a living being before then was of a lesser one then the redeads. So the way I see it, Redeads are jesters and things like that, and Gibdo's are Nobles. They were put into a Gibdo form before the fire arrow to show they are of a higher class then regular redeads.
Also I take that last sentence Offensivly .

ahhh...Ikana. Such fond memories. Anyways I would assume it was because of the skullkid and the mask. From what we knew before it was a much peaceful place.

Originally Posted by Leminnes

Flat and Sharp were the Royal Composers and Sharp betrayed his brother, Flat.

?!?!? I don't recall this for some reason. I must been sometime since I played this game. I can you refresh my memory on this topic someone?

I'm pretty sure that it had a tiny bit to do with Skull Kid. Not much, but a little. Personally, I am looking forward to a game that has the story of Ikana in it.