Behind the Rupees- He's a Rebel

I'd like to thank Tigerboi's quote in his sig for inspiring me to write this article

It's about me and why I want to play Twilight Princess Wii and not Twilight Princess GC. Not much more than that

He's a Rebel

As a reply to your "Behind the Rupees" post, I think I totally agree with you, it looks so interesting how things might feel with the wii-mote, I think it'll be a new and interesting way of feeling Zelda.

But as Oppose to you statement, I've never doubt of Nintendo's capacity to do something great, to return from it's ashes as the Phoenix, because a company with so many great creative and innovative minds leading it, that's the only thing they can do, come again and bring us something great for us to enjoy, as I hope the Wii will be. But besides all that, I totally agree with you.

I doubt I'll be able to snag a Wii when it comes out (I had a hard enough time convincing my mom to get the Gamecube...), so its GC version for me! I do agree with you wholeheartedly though, If I had my way, I would certainly get a Wii and TP.

Oh, and Congradulations for writing a BtR that was actually read by me.

Another excellent article Mirren. I agree I think if I get TP for Gamecube the controls would be all to familiar to me. I'd want a good challenge with the Wii-mote to play it. It looks cool. I've seen a trailer of a guy using it like a bow to shoot. I'm not gonna worry about the GC version at all and go for the Wii even if I gotta camp outside Toys-Rus and use that girrafe to wake me up. Or I just go to Wallmart. Point is Wii rules and so does that article.

Nice article Mirren.

I to am excited to play TP on the Wii because like you said it opens new doors to unique experiences like new puzzles that have been lacking in the previous 3D installments. However I disagree that the Wii-mote will bring a more difficult experience as a whole rather than a unique experience. The only way the new Wii-mote controls can make TP harder is if the controls themselves are difficult to use and even then it'd make TP more frustrating rather than hard.

I now know why- it’s because I had basically mastered the controls after playing the Master Quest. The Wind Waker’s controls were so similar, and I was already great with them going into the game, but then I as progressed through the adventure on the Great Sea, I became more and more confident with them, to the point where I knew them so well that I couldn’t get much of challenge from anything.

Much like the N64 controls most people will get used to the Wii controls about a week after they start playing so there's nothing really to master. Also like I said before any game that receives it's difficulty from the controls isn't difficult it's frustrating. I'd rather get the difficulty from hard enemies and puzzles.

As for TP's graphics being unimpressive for a Wii game you have to remember that TP is basically a Gamecube game remade for the Wii, what did you expect.

Originally Posted by Mirren -- "He's a Rebel"

The Wii is not looking to make its games photo realistic, either (thank God), it’s just looking to enhance them in terms of color, lighting, polygon count, frame rate etc. Twilight Princess isn’t going to look like Call of Duty 2 or Heavy Rain; it’s going for its own art style instead of trying to make everything look like real life. It’s creating graphics with the basics of video-game imagery; and that’s exactly what the Wii is improving on. I don’t see why people are complaining about the graphics when what’s being boosted is what matters to Twilight Princess’s visuals.

Definitely the best point you made concerning the Wii. Quite frankly, stunning realism really doesn't count for much in my book as far as graphics are concerned. As long as the graphic style that is being utilized is utilized to the fullest, the visuals will be just as stunning, the gameplay will be just as seamless, and the experience will be just as fulfilling.

As for the "familiarity" of the Gamecube control style--I must say that the point was really driven home to me today while I was replaying Wind Waker and sparring with Orca seemed so easy that I could practically do it in my sleep. Hack, hack, slash, hack, hack, slash, parry, perhaps raise my shield every once in awhile. That's it. Three basic skills that really only require the ability to press a button. The Wii style has always intrigued me, particularly for Twilight Princess, and I think the challenge that'll come with embracing what should be the most difficult 3D Zelda title yet along with a whole new control scheme will make the game experience all the more rewarding.

*throws Mirren a high-five*

Originally posted by rvdvrvd2003
I to am excited to play TP on the Wii because like you said it opens new doors to unique experiences like new puzzles that have been lacking in the previous 3D installments. However I disagree that the Wii-mote will bring a more difficult experience as a whole rather than a unique experience. The only way the new Wii-mote controls can make TP harder is if the controls themselves are difficult to use and even then it'd make TP more frustrating rather than hard.

In my eyes, it's not so much that the Wiimote will make it harder (because, personally, I think the controls will be fine), but that any new control system will up the challenge. After five years with the Gamecube controller, and two Zelda games with it that played so similarly, the GC controller is just too easy for us. We're all too used it. I doubt we'll master the Wiimote as well as did the GC controller in short time period.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the Wiimote itself isn't what will make the game harder, but that a new control scheme will, because everyone knows the Gamecube controller like the back of their hand.

EDIT-

*high fives Lionharted back*

Thanks everyone for looking at it

Originally Posted by Mirren

because everyone knows the Gamecube controller like the back of their hand.

Yeah that is true. I've mastered N64 controllers and the GC but the Wii-mote looks like it'll be a challenge for you must hold 2 things. It'll surely take some time for even the best gamers to get used to it.

Good article, Mirren.
I've been a bit hesitant about choosing between the two versions. The GCN HUD looks much better than the Wii one, IMO. I hate when the HUD takes up too much of the screen (as with Majora's Mask), and in the GCN version the sword and action buttons fit in that small space in the corner, while on Wii they take up half the right side of the screen (and I don't have a Widescreen TV). I know it's not a big deal, but I definetly prefer the GCN HUD.
I'm also worried about the fairy getting distracted, especially since it's apparently just the cursor, not an actual character within the game, like Navi or Tatl. I know I'll frequently be pushing the fairy off into a corner of the screen, as I'm doing with the arrow cursor right now. And then there are the chimes you hear when you move the fairy, which could potentially be annoying.
And then there's the camera. I don't really have a problem with the OoT/MM camera, but TWW has spoiled me. When playing TWW, I think I leave the camera in the set position maybe 10% of the time. I really like TWW's camera controls.

Yeah, those are all just nitpicks, and by now I'm fairly certain I'll be getting the Wii version. I agree with your argument that the fresh controls will enhance the experience, as opposed to having the same old controls that we've had for the last decade or so, that we've all mastered.

I'm gonna stick with the gamecube version of TP. I ain't exactly looking for a challenge and I ain't looking for something new in the controls. I myself wan't to play zelda the way I've played my whole life. For me thats what will the most enjoyable. Nice article by the way.

I'm gonna buy both. Why not? It'll be worth it to see the difference between versions, even if slight.

Just so there's no misunderstandings:

My gripes with the way the game look on the Wii has nothing to do with the visuals. The game just doesn't look that fun when played with the wiimote. It's looks clunky, unresponsive, inaccurate and slow. When the company exec playing the game has trouble with the controls, you know something is up.

I plan on buying the GCN version because it's version I can count on controlling properly.

It's just my opinon, but I think most people are bad mouthing the Wii version because it's just something to get used to. Everyone here is used to the GCN controller and arn't that willing to give it up just yet.
Admit it. Your afraid of change. Follow the examples of the ZU'ers that take this fear and spit in it's eye.

Hell no, I'm not afraid of change. Alot of franchises have to grow and change in order to stay afloat.

I'm actually quite interested in the Wii and it's my most wanted of all the nex-gen consoles right now.

It's just that....TP Wii just does not look very good to me. I'm still at least going to try it, but I can count on the GCN version to play correctly.

EDIT: Ok, alot of people here need to open thier minds to a certain possibility.

The wii could be the best console ever made...

....but it also has the potential to be the worst.

^ I think that's in the back of everyones' minds, it's just that no one feels the need to state it

I mean, after all, every system has the potential to succeed or flop.

That's extremly true. But in rare cases do I see it being so becuase of the controller design choice of all things.

I don't have anything to worry about from the PS3 and 360 controllers, because we're already quite familiar with the concept used for them. And we know it works well.

I'm certain I'll be fine with the PS3 controller. But I can't say that for the Wii controller. I can't expect anything from it. Will it change the way we play games or will it be ten times worse than the way we already do?

This is just me, but I feel everyone needs to have some sort of skeptism about this.

As for TP, I plan on buying the one I can rely on to control well and test the waters of the Wii version. Rather than just diving into the waters only to find that they're extremly cold.

Get what I mean?

Well, I'd rather dive into the water and get frozen, I'm not afraid to experience new things, I mean, What if it is a drag playing the wii version? I don't care. A true Zelda fan would just go on playing the game, Even if it is more difficult.

You never know, You might be lucky to have a try! I t might be the best thing that has ever happened to you. I think so, But I just want the game ,is all.

But for now, I'm already going to get the Wii console, and it is going to be worth a shot,

I Truely believe holding that controller will be better, because you can swing it and swing the sword. that Is fun and reliable.

But from your saying, It might be worse, Just hope it's not.