For those who think ALttP is after WW...(spoilers about WW)

I know a lot of ppl here think ALttP is after WW. But,I know how it's not.

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Remember at the end of WW when you stabbed Ganon in the head,then Hyrule is drowned?

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Well,that was the only Master Sword,am I right? And there is one in ALttP,right? Well,how could someone go down there and get the Master Sword and bring it to the Lost Woods in ALttP? So,this is why i think ALttP is BEFORE tWW. Oh yeah,about that whole,"The Master Sword sleeps forever" at the end of ALttP,Ganon came back,so they would probably have to get it back out of the pedestal.

Please post your comments!

Originally Posted by Majora's Mask

I know a lot of ppl here think ALttP is after WW. But,I know how it's not.

Spoiler (Highlight to read):

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Remember at the end of WW when you stabbed Ganon in the head,then Hyrule is drowned?

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Well,that was the only Master Sword,am I right? And there is one in ALttP,right? Well,how could someone go down there and get the Master Sword and bring it to the Lost Woods in ALttP? So,this is why i think ALttP is BEFORE tWW. Oh yeah,about that whole,"The Master Sword sleeps forever" at the end of ALttP,Ganon came back,so they would probably have to get it back out of the pedestal.

Please post your comments!

You make a very good point. There could be a new Zelda game that explains the whole "Ganon being traped in the water" thing, but so far there isn't! I belive that WW is last in the timeline, so this just proves more of a point too it. I agree with you that ALttP is in fact "before" WW, unless someone can you prove you otherwise.

Now I can't help but think how the Master Sword got from the Temple Of Time,to the Lost Woods,then under the statue. Maybe the temple eroded and trees ended up growing around the area,then someone built another castle over the sword. I don't really know,it just came to me...but maybe it was in the Temple Of Time,then part of it collasped,and someone built a statue over it.

And,didn't Ganondorf die at that part in WW? If that's true,then it further proves my theroy.

You see this is part of why I think it's silly to try and come up with soem Method by which all the Zelda Game Corispond with each other, I prefer to just Veiw them as Remakes, LttP isn't after or Before or inbetween OoT and WW it's simply a completly Seprate story.

Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

You see this is part of why I think it's silly to try and come up with soem Method by which all the Zelda Game Corispond with each other, I prefer to just Veiw them as Remakes, LttP isn't after or Before or inbetween OoT and WW it's simply a completly Seprate story.

I get what you mean,but I'm just interested in figuring the timeline crap out. If the story wasn't all messed up,(like in OoT you start off in Kokiri Forest thinking you're Kokiri,but in ALttP,you start off living with your uncle in Hyrule. Stuff like that) then I wouldn't be interested at all.

I do not think ALTTP is before TWW heres why:

Now, remember Ganondorf mistaking TWW Link for The Hero of Time? If Ganondorf had fought against other Links in the past then he would realise that they were all different and at the end of ALTTP Ganon loses the Triforce of power but in ALTTP he has it.

P.S: Can someone bring LOZ Historian in here please?

Didn't Ganondorf only think WW Link was the hero of time because Link is reincarnated into various new heroes. He just thought WW Link was the new incarnation of the original.

Originally Posted by Tetra`s Tracker

I do not think ALTTP is before TWW heres why:

Now, remember Ganondorf mistaking TWW Link for The Hero of Time? If Ganondorf had fought against other Links in the past then he would realise that they were all different and at the end of ALTTP Ganon loses the Triforce of power but in ALTTP he has it.

P.S: Can someone bring LOZ Historian in here please?

Yes,I remember Ganondorf mistaking,but still,how do you explain the Master Sword in the drown hyrule?

About the Triforce thing,I think it's like "The Master Sword sleeps forever" at the end of ALttP.(check first post) New people got the Triforce of Wisdom and Courage,so why shouldn't someone get the Triforce of Power,also?

I have no clue who LOZ Historian,but that name just sounds like the guy knows a lot about Zelda...somebody bring him in.

I agree with you that ALttP is before TWW.

The "Master Sowrd sleeps forever" line is easily debunked by Kodai no Sekiban - this is a direct sequel to ALttP, with the same Sahasralah and Zelda in, in which the Master Sword is used.

This is what I think happens to the MS throughout the history of Hyrule:

1. The Master Sword is created in response to a message from the gods, as told in ALttP's manual. It is place in the Lost Woods, and its location is forgotten.
2. During the Imprisoning War, the sages seaqrch for the Master Sword but do not find a hero to wield it in time. they manage to seal Ganon anyway. This is also from the ALttP manual.
3. During ALttP, Link takes the MS from the LW and uses it to defeat Ganon. After ALttP he returns it to its pedestal.
4. During Kodai no Sekiban, the visiting hero uses the Master Sword then returns it to its pedestal.
5. After the Oracles games, the people decide they need to protect the triforce better, as Ganon was nearly resurrected and the trifroce is just sitting in the open in a castle. (Entering the realms of made up stuff now, but I think it makes sense The sages of the time place the Trifroce in the SR, and create the Temple of Time to seal the SR. They use the Master Sword as part of this seal.
6. Link uses the Master Sword in OoT, before returning it to its pedestal in the ToT.
7. It is unclear exactly how the MS is moved to Hyrule castle and used as a seal on Ganon. Presumably this happens after Ganon has broken free of the SR, sometime during or shortly before the flood. It hasn't been explained in any game yet, though.
8. TWW Link uses the Master Sword, and leaves it embedded in Ganon's head.

As for Ganon not recognizing Link, it's not necessarily the same Ganon as in ALttP - it could be a reincarnation of him (which is likely, considering Ganon's dead after ALttP). in which case there's no reason for him to recognize Link - after all, Link's reincarnations don;t keep his memories from previous lives.

Originally Posted by Tetra`s Tracker

I do not think ALTTP is before TWW heres why:

Now, remember Ganondorf mistaking TWW Link for The Hero of Time? If Ganondorf had fought against other Links in the past then he would realise that they were all different and at the end of ALTTP Ganon loses the Triforce of power but in ALTTP he has it.

P.S: Can someone bring LOZ Historian in here please?

In ALttP Ganon says "I Never Imagined boy like you could cause me so much trouble" How do you explain that is Ganon already been defeated by atleast 2 Links.

Originally Posted by Majora's Mask

Well,how could someone go down there and get the Master Sword and bring it to the Lost Woods in ALttP?

The same way anyone else would take something from a seabed. It's a simple practice called diving. Remember the Divers in TWW? It could also be hauled up, the same way you get stuff from the seabed yourself in TWW. In the end, it's a game. For all we know, the Master Sword could have made itself appear in the Lost Woods.

Originally Posted by Majora's Mask

And,didn't Ganondorf die at that part in WW?

He's been brought back before, there's no reason he can't be again.

Originally Posted by Drk Link

I belive that WW is last in the timeline,

Miyamoto has said that The Adventure of Link is last in the timeline. I couldn't be screwed finding a source for that, but he's said it.

2. During the Imprisoning War, the sages seaqrch for the Master Sword but do not find a hero to wield it in time. they manage to seal Ganon anyway. This is also from the ALttP manual.

That's a mistranslation. According the Japanese version of the legend they are sealing the 'source of evil', which is the Dark World.

5. After the Oracles games, the people decide they need to protect the triforce better, as Ganon was nearly resurrected and the trifroce is just sitting in the open in a castle. (Entering the realms of made up stuff now, but I think it makes sense The sages of the time place the Trifroce in the SR, and create the Temple of Time to seal the SR. They use the Master Sword as part of this seal.

I like your theory about ALttP being before OoT, but this is where it crumbles. Had the Oracles been sequels to ALttP Link would have been older, the Triforces would have been united, they would have been in Zelda's castle (by the looks of it, the castle in the Oracles is a long abandoned castle), and Link would have known Zelda.

Miyamoto has said that The Adventure of Link is last in the timeline. I couldn't be screwed finding a source for that, but he's said it.

He said that ALttP is after AoL, but that is an outdated interview. And he said it before the release of OoT, years before TWW. Speaking of the timeline, I actually have a theory that might make LoZ take place before OoT...

Originally Posted by e_alert

The same way anyone else would take something from a seabed. It's a simple practice called diving. Remember the Divers in TWW? It could also be hauled up, the same way you get stuff from the seabed yourself in TWW. In the end, it's a game. For all we know, the Master Sword could have made itself appear in the Lost Woods.

He's been brought back before, there's no reason he can't be again.

Sorry.

Ganondorf has never been brought back to live;he just got locked in the Sacred Realm multiple times and got out.

Originally Posted by e_alert

The same way anyone else would take something from a seabed. It's a simple practice called diving. Remember the Divers in TWW? It could also be hauled up, the same way you get stuff from the seabed yourself in TWW. In the end, it's a game. For all we know, the Master Sword could have made itself appear in the Lost Woods.He's been brought back before, there's no reason he can't be again.



Miyamoto has said that The Adventure of Link is last in the timeline. I couldn't be screwed finding a source for that, but he's said it.

Miyamoto's Also Said the OoT is the Imprisonaing War and I absolutly Hate that Theory and Refuse to agree with it.

Nintendo doesn't have any consistant time line, i'm sure they want us to belive they do but they don't.

Besides if he said that Before TWW came out then it has no real relevance to TWW.

I simply prefer to accpt that the Games don't all corrispond, and I feel TWW Should be the last of the Games it does Corrispond with, it had a very cliamtic feeling to it that none of the other games had.

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

That's a mistranslation. According the Japanese version of the legend they are sealing the 'source of evil', which is the Dark World.

Well, yes. The Sgaes seal the entrance to the SR, not technically Ganon, although since Ganon is inside the SR at the time it amounts to the same thing.

I like your theory about ALttP being before OoT, but this is where it crumbles. Had the Oracles been sequels to ALttP Link would have been older, the Triforces would have been united, they would have been in Zelda's castle (by the looks of it, the castle in the Oracles is a long abandoned castle), and Link would have known Zelda.

It's a new Link, of course. I actually place the Oracles a long time after Adventure of Link, which is itself after LoZ and a very long time after ALttP - my timeline at that point goes IW, ALttP, SZ story one or two generations after ALttP (with the Zelda in the story named after the Zelda in ALttP who is possibly her mother or grandmother), then a very very long gap (in which I put TMC, FS, FSA), then LoZ (assuming Ganon somehow escapes the Four Sword), then AoL, then finally Oracles, with a new Link. The triforce was united after AoL, as it is at the start of Oracles. After AoL, with Ganon's threat finally laid to rest, the triforce is presumably placed in a castle, then after another extensive period of time in which the triforce becomes unguarded and possibly almost forgotten Oracles happen.

I believe that there would not be enough time betwwen OoT and WW for ALttP to happen. In the intro of WW, the evil that was sealed away by the Hero of Time had crept back into Hyrule. The people waited for the Hero of Time to return, but according to the WW intro, a hero never came after Ganon's return. The next thing that happened was the flooding of Hyrule. If ALttp happened between Oot and WW, then Ganon would have been defeated by a different Link (not the Hero of Time), and then return again before the flood. Also, why would the people of Hyrule pray for the Hero of Time if a different, more recent, hero had just defeated him?