Ganon and Ganondorf

So I was showing my father a few Zelda endings the of TWW, his favorite next to OoT, he asked why Ganondorf didn't become Ganon, or why didn't he use his fammiller 'pig-face' form, I thought about this and i think it's because in TWW Ganondorf no longer had tthe Triforce of Power, and he needs that in order to change forms, we see at the end of OoT he flies from the rubble holds his handd up showing he has the Triforce and become Ganon. But at the end of TWW we see the Triforce come together and then split apart and fly in different directions.

Any thoughts?

Actually no, if you look closely during tht end battle sequence, Ganondorf still has the triforce of power on his hands, which means that the King was not pure of heart.

There was no need for Ganondorf to transform simply because ne never reached "death".

Nintendo was too lazy to have Ganondorf transform, I believe.

Ever thought that it could be because he used all his Ganon transformations before you reach the top of the tower? You know puppet ganon and stuff.

Originally Posted by vacumgod

Actually no, if you look closely during tht end battle sequence, Ganondorf still has the triforce of power on his hands, which means that the King was not pure of heart.

There was no need for Ganondorf to transform simply because ne never reached "death".

I definetly agree with you. Gannondorf did not got kill, he was turn into stone and he always transform into Gannon after his kill, death.

Nintendo didn't think of that, they just made the game to get money.

The answer is: Because Nintendo didn't have time, room och just didn't wanna do it.

Amon_Knives said it. Nintendo chose to have Ganondorf transform into different Ganon forms at the beginning of the battle. Then in the last part, they used the human Ganondorf for variety. He wouldn't seem as human when he was talking about Gerudo Valley and all if he were a giant pig, and if he turned into Ganon again right before you fought, where would the variety be? TWW wasn't exactly similar to OOT, so there was no need to make it the same. I like variety.

The obvious answer: Stroywise, Ganondorf didn't have the Triforce of Power anymore since the Triforce had been combined already. End of story, good-bye, the end. (Also said by Mad-Eye Moody)

I believe that the wind waker is the last in the zelda timeline, so it's also the one where Ganondorf/Ganon got sealed away for good, with no chance of returning. Before Ganondorf had the chance to transform into Ganon, The Master Sword was impaled into his head. Now I don't care what anyone says, that's gotta hurt! And it would certainly kill him as it obviously went right through the centre of his brain.

The master sword had just had it's power to repel evil refreshed, so it was at it's strongest, so when it went into his head, the power of the sword finally overcame Ganondorfs power, and destroyed him for good. And when to god,s had sealed away Hyrule (again) for good by flooding it, there was effectively, twice as much power sealing Ganondorf away, both the Master Sword in his skull, and the seal of the gods.

That's what i think anyways.

Nay, I just think Ganondorf was to busy thinking about his transformation, or he just didn´regain enough energy since he fled from the sacred realm.
The "Ganons" before were just a puppet controlled by Ganondorf, so we never saw any incarnation of him but the "human" form.

yeah, ganondorf never really fought you until the final he just got his copies to do it for him, chicken! My favourite of Ganondorf's copies was phantom ganon, he looked much cooler than he did in OoT.

I'm thinking that ganondorf maby...maby he thought for the current battle that ganon would be a bad idea. Maby he realizeed the ganon form was a bad idea entirly. Like maby he thought it would be too slow for such a speedy link. The other thing was that such a large form was too big for the small area there was to fight. Maby he wuld just break the platform and kill mimself. Whatever the reason it probobly doesn't have to do with ganondorf's power. Regardless I liked fighting ganondorf what are you all smoking on? One for the greatest sowrds fights to me. Easy but great.

I don't think it was because the arena was too small, I mean, if you zoom the camera out, the arena is pretty large, about the same size as the one you fought ganon on in OoT. I don't know why he didn't transform into Ganon, but i guess Ninty didn't want him to for a change.

A final battle with the monster Ganon wouldn't have fit the story well. The game wasn't about stopping Ganondorf's mad craving for power like in OoT; TWW was about the two former Kings of Hyrule who were too obsessed with the past to do anything about the future. Daphnes was eventually able to overcome his fixation on the past, and so he was able to scatter the seeds of a properous future. Ganondorf, on the other hand, was never able to give up Hyrule, and so he drowned with the kingdom and accomplished nothing in the end. The parallel between the two men worked better with Ganondorf remaining in human form, and to compensate for that, we were given the Puppet Ganon battle.

If that isn't reason enough for you, take into consideration what Ganondorf said as he prepared to kill Link and Zelda: "See how much your precious Triforce is worth!" Daphnes had wished on the Triforce for the children to have a future. Ganondorf intended to murder the children and rob the world of its chance for a future, and in doing so he was challenging the power of the Triforce. To prove that he could overcome the Triforce he had to fight its power on his own, without using it.

Originally Posted by vacumgod

Actually no, if you look closely during tht end battle sequence, Ganondorf still has the triforce of power on his hands, which means that the King was not pure of heart.

That had to have been an oversight, like Ganondorf's pointed Hylian ears, and the Triforce of Power being on the wrong hand when he brought the pieces together.
Plus, there was absolutely nothing in TWW to imply that the King was unworthy of the Triforce. For that aspect of the Triforce's behavior to factor into the plot, it would need to be reestablished earlier in the game. It's like the previouslies that show before each episode of many TV shows: if something that happened in a previous episode is going to be an important part of the new episode, it'll usually be recapped to remind the audience of it. If an element of OoT's story were to come into play in TWW, we would be reminded of it beforehand.

Actually, in ALttP he wields his trident with his left hand and in OoT he throws those magic bolts at you with his left hand. It's not an oversight. He's ambidextrous.

Ganondorf's ambidextrous? cool, i read somewhere that someone said that link was ambidextrous, but i think he's left handed, as he holds his sword in that hand. WHOAH! I've gone off topic, sorry.

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

Actually, in ALttP he wields his trident with his left hand and in OoT he throws those magic bolts at you with his left hand. It's not an oversight. He's ambidextrous.

What I meant was, throughout the game, the Triforce of Power Crest is on the back of Ganondorf's right hand, but when the Triforce pieces are broght together, the Triforce of Power emerges from the back of his left hand.
Also, while I don't consider the Ganon of ALttP to be the same as the Ganondorf of OoT and TWW, he still seems to be ambidextrous, considering how he fought with two swords in TWW.

Is everyone looking forward to Ganondorf in TP? I hope he looks awesome and muscular like in Ocarina of Time...