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Old 11-19-2005, 09:29 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

I don't think that Link is a dirty fighter, that's like saying that Ganon is the good guy. Anyway, the new fighting moves he has gained in previous games are showing that he has more skill and agility, not fighting dirty. If your enemy had you on the ground and defenseless, he wouldn't be merciful to you and would most likely kill you.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:32 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

No not at all
You don't know anything about what you are talking about.
The #1 thing that you learn wene you are being talt how to fight is to U's your enemy's weapon agenst
them. that's Y Link will grab the enemy's weapon.

The #2 thing is that you nevr let your enemy liv. that is way in TP he will kill them when thay are down.
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:01 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

Link is fighting for freedom... he is fighting for a good cause.
But he does not fight with honor... As this thread is trying to point too...

But hey.. Link IS you. So you only make Link a dirty fighter... in TP if you don't want to use that finishing move then don't... Let them get back up. Wastes more of your time though =P
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:43 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

hmmm link, as dirty fighter? heck no!!!! he's a very smart fighter but not dirty!

now............ if you want a dirty fighter go talk to the prince of persia!!!!
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:48 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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Knightly Virtues (or the Virtues of a Knight) were part of a mediaeval chivalric code of honour. There is no definitive list of virtues, but among the most important(and most frequently mentioned) are:

* courage
* justice
* mercy
* generosity
* faith
* nobility
* hope
I think you bring up vauge, sometimes irrelevant points. Link's methods of combat are not polar opposites of chivalry and nor is he a dirty fighter. Its not as if Link is calculating, brutal murderer. No quarter, certainly but as people have brought up, its demons that he is dealing with who you might as well put on par with the bane of humanoid existence, right? And what defines noble and chilvarous combat is kind of sketchy as it is anyway. There's no definite establishment to the code to it and I think Link adheres to most of the standards, but I think Link fights honorable enough. Its not as if he uses every move to inflict inhumane pain.
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:59 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

if you wear the garo, gibdo or captain's hat in the ikana castle with the redeads, the redeads start dancing and continue dancing while you hurt them, if hitting someone while they are dancing isn't cowardy i don't know what is

p.s. if you haven't seen it, you should, the redeads do ballet and if you hit them, they shake it off and continue, you also get 15-25 ruppees each.

p.p.s in windwaker, link uses the grappling hook to rip out their hearts (if you're lucky)

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No not at all
The #2 thing is that you nevr let your enemy liv. that is way in TP he will kill them when thay are down.
technically in world war 1 and 2 they taught the exact opposite of what you just claim. It is much more expensive to treat a horribly injured person then it is to replace them. It was a strategy in the war to use gas attacks that put troops in hostpitals and force the government to reroute their funds to treat them. It would be kind of funny to see Ganondorf acting as a field medic whenever you leave a screen treating those that you didn't quite kill.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:19 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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technically in world war 1 and 2 they taught the exact opposite of what you just claim. It is much more expensive to treat a horribly injured person then it is to replace them. It was a strategy in the war to use gas attacks that put troops in hostpitals and force the government to reroute their funds to treat them. It would be kind of funny to see Ganondorf acting as a field medic whenever you leave a screen treating those that you didn't quite kill.
Well, yes, chivalry was an extinct concept by those times(they corresponded to the middle ages, naturally). Machiavellin policies proved quite popular for political motives and moves, naturally by discarding those moral and just attributes. Ganondorf would be one that would seem to adhere to those kind of standards though, what with his super evil image.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:55 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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if you wear the garo, gibdo or captain's hat in the ikana castle with the redeads, the redeads start dancing and continue dancing while you hurt them, if hitting someone while they are dancing isn't cowardy i don't know what is

p.s. if you haven't seen it, you should, the redeads do ballet and if you hit them, they shake it off and continue, you also get 15-25 ruppees each.

p.p.s in windwaker, link uses the grappling hook to rip out their hearts (if you're lucky)
Hmm than, why don't you not put on the mask, and fight the gibdos honerably! As V99 stated, you are controling link, he may have those "cheap" moves, but it your personaly choice to use them. Lets see, have 16 gibdos start/ suck the life out of you... or you can make them dance and get tons of rupees... the choice is yours.

I like the idea of a finishing move, although when I saw the trailor, the move lookled kinda time consuming. I think it is well balenced, and looses its effectivness in fights against more than one baddy. While link is recovering, the bad guys can attack him from behind. As for the parry attack, it may be cheap, but you have to give nintendo some credit, I mean this game was designed for all ages, which means that a 6 yea old with barely any hand-eye cordination must be able to hit the A button perfectly in the .25 second window of opertunity. That's my two-cents
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Old 11-20-2005, 12:09 AM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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I know this by actually READING books, not just litarature, HISTORY books.

Also, they GET BACK UP. If something couldn't get back up, sure I'd kill it to put it out of it's misery. But Link isn't killing something that's already dying, it would GET BACK UP.

And I don't know what you mean by "WW Link is 12. Nuff said."
You really aren't getting it, are you?

The game makes it so that they can get back up, but in real life, they wouldn't be able to move, due to being slashed so many times. Seriously, THINK for a second:

You are walking through a dungeon. A huge spider attacks you. What are you gonna do when you make it vulnerable?

A. Sit there and wait for it to have another shot at killing you

OR

B. Kill it wiht a finisher move that will not only kill it instantly, but make sure it won't attack you again.

When you are in mortal combat, you don't care about fighting fair, you do what you need to do, so that you stay alive. And there is nothing dirty about that.
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:35 AM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

while links moves have gotten darker, his moves are certainly not "dirty". he fights for the freedom of hyrule. if you were facing say a bokoblin or a slew of miniblins. would you let them kill you? if you were suicidal yeah, but in normal circumstances no. you would kill them all but not just to defend yourself, but the future of your people. that is fighting honorably, not "dirty".
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:49 AM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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Link is the desendant of Knights (sorry to get into ALttP, but it has to be done) Knights are chivalrus, and don't "finish off" enemys while the're lying on the ground defensless!
AlttP bombed,thats why they made oot,and thats why they were so simaliuer.Cause whenever you haer the name link you think oot,not alttp....

Link is not becomoning a diry fighter,just more stratagised.....
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:01 AM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

Link is not a dirty fighter. If you ever get in a situation where a massive great knight with a huge sword is charging at you, and the room is sealed, would you fight it from the front and probably kill yourself? Or would you do what Link does, and jump round the back to slash the chords of their armour off, so you can kill them.

I'm going with Link any day
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Old 11-20-2005, 04:24 AM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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Link is the desendant of Knights (sorry to get into ALttP, but it has to be done) Knights are chivalrus, and don't "finish off" enemys while the're lying on the ground defensless!
Well, if you think link is becoming a dirty fighter, do you like hitting magic balls back to Ganondorf? Do you think that's a sword fight? For example if there isn't a finisher in TP, then the enemie could stand up and if you do something wrong He could attack you untill your dead. So the extra so called dirty moves sometimes become in handy.
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Old 11-20-2005, 04:40 AM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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AlttP bombed,thats why they made oot,and thats why they were so simaliuer.Cause whenever you haer the name link you think oot,not alttp....
Are you aware that Alttp was one of SNES's best selling games? And don't forget that there was an 8 year gap between Alttp and OoT, so even if ALttp bombed, nintendo would be dead if they though OoT was a way to get out of the hole. OoT and ALttp are not similar AT ALL.
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

Dirty tricks would be something like kicking under enemy's belt or something, I think.
On the other hand, if we think Link's using more dirty tricks, it would be logical. In TP he turns to a wolf, so wouldn't thet suggest he's turning a bit more wicked or something?
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:22 PM
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Ok, that's it. I'm telling all of you, for the last time, that Link should NOT kill defensless enemies. Oh, and Janus, about the comic. Yes, I would like Link to act like that. Fine, flame me, call me stupid BUT at least I have the gratification of knowing that I am an honorable fighter. The End.
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:26 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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Yes, I would like Link to act like that. Fine, flame me, call me stupid BUT at least I have the gratification of knowing that I am an honorable fighter. The End.
Maybe if his foe was an honorable knight, or a rival fine, but remember these are monsters trying to destroy Hyrule. If you fight "honorably" they're going to take advantage of it. Link is just getting smarter.
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:30 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

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AlttP bombed,thats why they made oot,and thats why they were so simaliuer.
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The game is hailed by many (especially of its generation) as one of the greatest video games of all time, and it is noted for its exceptionally long life in Nintendo Power's top games list. When the SNES list was finally retired, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past had more than five consecutive years in the number one spot. Because of its astounding success, it was re-released in 2002 on the Game Boy Advance.
Yeah. It sure bombed.

I think dirty is too much of an extremity, its not as if Link uses ruthless and malevolent methods. His technique is honorable enough, I don't see much wrong with it. And killing those who are already on the ground? Eh. You really think that constitutes as dirty? Maybe and with the disarming, but he's just becoming more tactful. What about those knights in A Link to the Past? How do you suppose you beat them? Not head on, but you had to swing your sword at a certain angle to go beyond their defenses. Lots of enimies in Zelda require tricks to beat, if you haven't already noticed. Perhaps he isn't completely chivalrous, but he's not dirty.
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:43 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

You are the one controling link first of all. Secondly, its war. You do what it takes to stay alive. And as it was mentioned earlier, it fun to sneak up from behind enemies to attack them.
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:44 PM
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Re: Is Link a dirty fighter?

No, hes dirty.there just tring to put all his moves in.the finsish offf is from SSBM
the doging is from WW.The sping is from oot.....hes not a dirty fighter....
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