Hyrule connections?

I'm not sure wether this belongs here or not, if no then please move it, but, Hyrule is flooded between a series of great disasters in WW, right? Well, I have a question (no, it's not 42). Is Hyrule linked with the lost city of Atlantis and its big flood? Any comments?

Um...no. The legend of Atlantis doesn't even excist in the world of zelda. They might of gotten the idea of having Hyrule sink and becoming lost, from that legend, but to answer your question, no.

The idea of Hyrule being flooded could have come from the Legend of Atlantis like Odin's flame said but the main differences are Atlantis doesn't exist in Zelda and if we did find Atlantis sunk at the bottom of the sea it would be just ruins, not some world enclosed in a giant magic bubble thing. But your right that hyrule got flooded and maybe so did Atlantis. Interesting question though.

Well, in theory. Atlantis was sunk by some kind of natural disaster. Earthquake is a theory I can remember besides flooding.

According to my little source on the Mythology of Atlantis, here are the only simularities I've found between Atlantis and Hyrule:

-The Atlantians believed that Athena was the protector of the city. Hylians believe that Nayru is their most important Goddess (well she did give the Hylians the ability to hear the goddesses...the only race capable of doing so). Both Athena & Nayru are titled as "Goddesses of Wisdom".

-Poseidon's sons ruled over Atlantis as kings. They "began marrying mortals and started acting like foolish humans. Soon pride overtook the rulers who soon began grasping for greater power." Ganondorf was the king of Gerudos, and ruler of the deserts. His thirst for power (ultimately, the Triforce of Power) became so grand that he ruled over Hyrule.

-"Zues assembled all the gods of Olympus around him and was to pronounce judgment on Atlantis." After hope was lost for the Hero to come, the people prayed to the Goddesses to find a solution for this catestrophic mess that has been lain upon them. According to Greek Mythology, it only took one day for the City of Atlantis to sink into the Atlantic Ocean. According to Hylian Legend, it took years of never-ending rain (that is known as the "Great Flood") for the land to be submerged was is only known as "The Great Sea".

Now, I'm a big fan of Greek Mythology, but there's something that I've noticed throughout the years...that stories/characters seem to have been used over and over again. The Egyptians and the Greeks both hold simular Gods and stories. Now when it comes to the Christian Religeon (I don't want to make this into a serious discussion. I'm just pointing out something)...there can be a slight simularity in the story of Noah's Ark.

To sum up the story in a short paragraph...:

"The world was in turmoil because everyone was sinning. God spoke to Noah (one of the few non-sinners) and told him to build an ark large enough to hold two of every animal because he's going to flood the world and drown all the sinners. Noah did so, and took his family and all the animals into the ark. Fourty days and nights of constant rain have passed. God flooded the world, Noah found land (with the help of a dove), and began life anew."

Now, I'm sure not everyone was stupid, so I'm sure that people survived.

Zelda: Goddesses flooded the land (in what it seemed like it took years) to get rid of the evil controlling the land (Ganon). People fled to the mountaintops to live.

Greek: The Gods sunk Atlantis (in one day) because of the prideful rulers seeking for more power. The survivors of the flood (not all Atlantians were in Atlantis at the time...they were going place to place fighting in wars) have believed to have gone to Egypt.

Bible: God flooded the world (in 40 days & nights) because of all the sinners. Supposibly nobody survived other than Noah and his family (in total: 8 people).

See the simularity? As we've all noticed at least one time or another, The Legend of Zelda takes stories and myths from different places (it was created by Miyamoto, so I'm not surprized if he wanted to incorporate that into the storyline). For example, one of my favorite simularities: Helmaroc = Roc. In tWW The Helmaroc King was a large bird that kidnapped little girls in search for the chosen Princess of Hyrule for his master Ganondorf. In the Arabian 1001 stories, Roc was a very large bird that was believed to have been able to kidnap children, and sometimes even pick up elephants for it to feed off of. Also according to Arabian Legend, the Roc's feather had a mystical power, but I've never read anything specifically of what it could do. In the Legend of Zelda, however, it seems that the Roc's Feather's mystical power ables the user to jump high.

-BGS

That's an interesting thought....but no, I don't think Hyrule is linked to Atlantis.

BGS is right, Atlantis sank into the ocean. it was documented by famous historians/philosophers in ancient greece and rome.

i also think that Hyrule is about the great flood. that was documented by alot of ancient civilizations...not just in the bible.

(BGS, alot of things are similar in Chrisitanity and Greek Legends)

Thats very interseting, BGS. You almost make Zelda sound like a relegion.lol Anyway mayby Miyamoto came up w/ TWW from Atlantis, but I doubt it.

Ok idea but, I think not because Hyrule wasn't an ocean and Atlantis was an island in the ocean and sank (I think).

The sinking of Hyrule was not related to Atlantis because it is a part Greek religion. I doubt that Nintendo would try to bring somthing thats real thoghts into zelda history. They might insult the Greeks in a way. Anyways, Atlantis was in the atlantic ocean, and that ocean is real. Trying to put in Hyrule... not something good to do.

The similarity is there, but it's vague enough for most of us not to notice or care.

I read an article about atlantis in a boys life magasine saying that it could of actually been a volcanic island that blew up in an eruption. (it also said something about a neighboring island that was destroyed by the ash.) The neighbor island is in ruins today, but there is supposedly evidence that it traded with another island, but there was no other island or any volcano to produce the ash that destroyed the island. So it makes sense that the volcanic island was atlantis. (I'm saying this stuff from memory so it may be distorted)

I believe that it is very possible that nintendo got the flooding idea from atlantis or noah, it wouldn't be a surprise.

This is just so stupid! I have heared lots of stupid thinga on ZU: Link is a werewolf in the new geame ( he is a wolf but it is a big different between a wolf and a werewolf ), a goron training Link, Majora gives you the mask because he tink you need it to win and the most stupid of them all: Midna is Tingle. This beat everything exept Midna = Tingle! Hyrule isnt Atlantis for F's sake!

Originally Posted by Mix

This is just so stupid! I have heared lots of stupid thinga on ZU: Link is a werewolf in the new geame ( he is a wolf but it is a big different between a wolf and a werewolf ), a goron training Link, Majora gives you the mask because he tink you need it to win and the most stupid of them all: Midna is Tingle. This beat everything exept Midna = Tingle! Hyrule isnt Atlantis for F's sake!

Wow, you didn't have to be so mean about it.

Originally Posted by Mix

This is just so stupid! I have heared lots of stupid thinga on ZU: Link is a werewolf in the new geame ( he is a wolf but it is a big different between a wolf and a werewolf ), a goron training Link, Majora gives you the mask because he tink you need it to win and the most stupid of them all: Midna is Tingle. This beat everything exept Midna = Tingle! Hyrule isnt Atlantis for F's sake!

that's really uncalled for...try to be a bit more tactful will ya? its just an idea Deku Prince had and wanted to see our thoughts on...not a rant about how stupid some things are on ZU.

Hahah, I do agree that people draw some pretty ridiculous conclusions from things in Zelda (myself included) my personal favorite was Ocra=OoT link. That was just too funny.

Anyway in this case, I don't think this person really meant to say that underwater Hyrule is actually THE atlantis, he just wanted to ask if the stories seemed to have any resemblance. Which I'll admit, there is a similarity there between the two stories. I don't think it was important or intentional though.

Personally I don't think Miyamoto had atlantis in mind when he designed the underwater realm, his original aim was to create a Zelda game based on an ocean, and the most entertaining way to do that and still have Hyrule present was to have it under the sea.

I'm sure you've heard about the philosphy / theory that no idea is truly original. Oftentimes people are ignorant of the fact that their ideas bear resemblances to others. If you really look into it, you can find many things in Zelda that are similar to mythology, the real world and even fiction. For instance, there was a thread comparing Link and the kokiri to Peter Pan and the Lost Boys. And in another, people have wondered if Twilight Princess was based on Ladyhawke. And even then, the similarities are rarely only between two subjects.
Using the resemblance between Zelda's Helmaroc and Sinbad's Roc as an example, both birds could also be compared to the condor or the exinct elephant bird (said by some to be what was mistaken as the roc).
Personally, I think it's just a coincidence that Hyrule is so much like Atlantis, but it is a sharp observation though!

This might be stupid but BGS where did you get the info that hyrule took several years to sink :confused:

Originally Posted by zelda guardian

The sinking of Hyrule was not related to Atlantis because it is a part Greek religion. I doubt that Nintendo would try to bring somthing thats real thoghts into zelda history. They might insult the Greeks in a way. Anyways, Atlantis was in the atlantic ocean, and that ocean is real. Trying to put in Hyrule... not something good to do.

Elabroate. I still don't understand at what you're trying to say. Taking myths won't offend anyone really in my opinion unless they are hardcore zealots.

Originally Posted by ItalianLink

Ok idea but, I think not because Hyrule wasn't an ocean and Atlantis was an island in the ocean and sank (I think).

Some say it was a continent. But regardless, I doubt it has to do with size.

Originally Posted by Poe Black

This might be stupid but BGS where did you get the info that hyrule took several years to sink :confused:

Well to be quite honest, there isn't any proof about how long it took to drown Hyrule...I just guessed. But I'll tell you why I guessed it took several years. Remember, the people prayed to that Goddesses to save them. The Goddesses made it rain. Now, think about it, the people had to flee from their homes to go up to the mountains where they would be safe from the floods. Don't you think that it would take years for rain to fill up everything from the valleys and all the way up to the mountain tops?

-BGS