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Old 04-30-2005, 07:46 AM
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Effects of the Triforce

I just had a thought. Does the Triforce actually DO anything? We know that the ToP makes Ganon/dorf much stronger, but we've never seen the ToC/W do anything. They just appear in Zelda or Link, or Link finds it, but he doesn't become braver or wiser. So do these two Triforce pieces do anything? Or are they just like a heavenly award for possessing great courage or wisdom?
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:11 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

The Triforce of Power is much more, um... powerful than the other two pieces of the gods' relic. Maybe it only takes a physical effect on Ganon(dorf) because it is literally stronger than Wisdom and Courage. An example that shows it is more powerful is that with the exception of Zelda 1, Link and Zelda must work together to destroy Ganon, because by themselves, they are too weak. Also, ToW and ToC could enhance the amount of bravery Link has, or the knowledge that Zelda bestows; they take an effect, its just not as dramatic.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:12 AM
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Well the ToC gives Link the courage to stand up to anything. Not really, you make him do that but the principle is there.
The ToW I don't know about. Zelda isn't exactly wise is she now?
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:21 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

Link doesn't seem any braver once he has the ToC, though. He doesn't do anything more daring.

And Zelda was never wise. She has never done anything smart. Examples:

"Tee hee! There's an all-powerful warlord trying to take over the world! I know! I'll deal with him myself and cast the entire world into eternal darkness! Yay!"-OoT

"I'll help you, Link! Just stand still while I shoot you with Light Arrows! What's that? Just shoot at Ganon? Don't be silly! That would never work!"-WW

"I know! Instead of hiding the Triforce of Wisdom into a difficult-to-find place, I'll just throw it in a dungeon that Ganon could raze in an instant!"-LoZ

"Link! We must defeat Ganon! I'll run around in circles and ready a spell, while you protect me and shoot the spell for me! What's that? Go somewhere where he can't get me and shoot the spell myself? What are you talking about?"-FSA

"OMG! Fair! Fair! I wanna buy this! Ooh, look at that! Yay! I'm a stupid, hyperactive bimbo! WOOO! Ooh, pretty lights! Tee hee! I love drugs!"-MC

Note: Some of the above quotes were slightly paraphrased.

It seems that the only thing the ToW does is bring Zelda's IQ to a positive number.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:53 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

Zelda is smart, and typically has good ideas, she is just not as effective as she could be in carrying them out. She lacks the courage and power to follow through with her plans in the way she would like, but in actually she is much wiser than other characters in the series. She is very familiar with Hylian lore and religion, explaining alot about the Triforce and the goddesses. She senses Ganondorf's plan to overthrow the King (OoT), she has telepathic ability (ALttP), she creates a complex alter ego to assist Link in his quest and hide from the evil that pursued her (OoT). While believing herself to be Tetra in the Wind Waker, she continually exhibited her ability to reason in the most difficult times by coming up with plans that ensured Link would go on to find his sister. The point is this: despite the fact that Zelda is prone to getting in trouble (being captured), getting scared at stressful points of the adventure (such as the collaspe of Ganon's Tower in OoT, or the fight between Link and Ganondorf in WW) does not make her less intellegent or inferior to other main characters.
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:06 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

Powers of the triforce:

1.) If combined alows owner a single wish
2.) alows transformation into a stronger form (Ganondorf = Ganon, Zelda = Shiek)
3.) Alows increase in the status pertaining to their triforce.

PS- We have not seen Link use his peice to transform yet. I hope to see that in LoZ 05'.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:06 AM
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PS- We have not seen Link use his peice to transform yet. I hope to see that in LoZ 05'.
That would be extremely nice to see.
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I could deal with Zelda's annoyance, she is pretty cute.. And I guess I have the triforce of courage seeing as I'd be willing to thwart that washed up hag Gannon and opress Hyrule and everybody else for that matter.

Wonder if there's a triforce of darkness.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:20 PM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

I don't think the ToW made Zelda transform. She just used her own magic powers.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:33 PM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

Zelda in Oot had powers in seeing the future but without the Tow she could only see future in her dreams and the dreams wern't clear
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:47 PM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

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I just had a thought. Does the Triforce actually DO anything? We know that the ToP makes Ganon/dorf much stronger, but we've never seen the ToC/W do anything. They just appear in Zelda or Link, or Link finds it, but he doesn't become braver or wiser. So do these two Triforce pieces do anything? Or are they just like a heavenly award for possessing great courage or wisdom?

Not exactly. ToC gives Link the courage to continue his journey and be successful. ToW gives zelda the wisdom to guide Link and tell him whats best to do.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:38 PM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

Some people said they would like to see Link use the ToC for once. It can't be done people. If you control Link that you give him the courage. Otherwise, why the heck would he jump off of a cliff or fight something significantly larger than himself? Its hard to explain but the ToC does something.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:42 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

I thought of this for a while and here's what I can come up with:

Triforce of Power:Taken by Ganondorf and gave him all those powerful attacks in Oot,Wrong! Recall him blasting link when Zelda and Impa were escaping.Ganondorf odviously had lots of power to begin with.The triforce of power is only a symbol if you think of it that way.What the triforce people think it gave him the power to,corupt the forest, revive volvagia,freeze zora's domain,and free bongo bongo.I'm guessing Ganondorf could have done all of that without the triforce.The only thing I really see the triforce work is when he transforms into ganon.You can odviously see his hand glow when that happens.Of course some will disagree(even I have my doubts)but this is logical unless the triforce increased the power of his magic tenfold(still meaning he could do it without the triforce just needs some training)it makes sense.

Triforce of Wisdom:Let's see this is Zelda's piece of the triforce correct.From the only instance it is used is on Zelda's transformation into and from Shiek.From what I see Zelda has a strong magical prowless whether it's from being a sage or the triforce is debatable.There's also the thought that see was taught by impa and various other varibles so this needs more data to tell.

Triforce of Courage:The piece that belongs to the boy garbed in green Link.From what I can see Link didn't get any of his power from the triforce of courage.Before he got it he journeyed inside of a cursed tree,traveled a world unknown to him,took down a dodongo,went inside a giant fish and stood up to Ganondorf.Yeah Link doesn't need the triforce of courage to be well couragous or it could be Link never used because a lack of how.Anyway as the facts state it's been of no use to Link in any game for that manner.

I only referenced to Oot(except with Link)because that is the game which really show the triforced being used but as the facts state the Triforce is just a symbol of what they already possess and when called for can have some benificial value(Ganon's tower).I could reference other games if anyone ask.
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Old 05-03-2005, 05:42 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

^ Link showed great courage so that is why it was given to him.
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:46 AM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

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It seems that the only thing the ToW does is bring Zelda's IQ to a positive number.
Wisdom: The ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight.
Intelligence: The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.

IQ and wisdom are different things. You don't have to be smart to be wise. In RPGs (which Zelda games have never actually been true RPGs), intelligence is usually associated with technical ability, and wisdom more so a mystical/magical ability.

In OoT Zelda definitely fit the bill very well for wisdom. She knew that Ganondorf's intentions were not good when he was supposedly pledging his allegiance to the king – here she’s a mere child and is wiser than an experienced king. Then there’s her magical ability. The Shiek side to Zelda was not magical or a result of the Triforce, it was merely because Impa taught Zelda the ways of the Shiekah, which was more of a physical conditioning to better survive in the coming days of dark.


Now as far as whether the individual pieces have any significant power to them, you’d assume so. In OoT, Ganondorf uses the ToP to become Ganon after being defeated by Link and then collapsing into rubble of his tower. He then rises from defeat to show off the ToP imbedded in his hand. Now glowing, the power is abused and his body warps into the monstrous pig-like beast that is Ganon.

Who knows, maybe Link and/or Zelda would have had to be nearly killed in order to activate their power, perhaps Ganondorf was abusing his power and thus Link and/or Zelda would have had to abuse theirs which might mean they’d become evil if they did so, more monster than man. Heck, it could also very well be fact that Ganondorf was really the only one of the 3 that knew how to use the power, he had a plan to obtain the power and therefore he probably knew how to use the power. Link and Zelda were children when he stole the power, it would make sense for them not to know how to use their power.
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

This is what I think:

Triforce of Power can turn Ganondorf into a more powerful beast (I'm sure everyone can agree with this one) named Ganon.

Triforce of Courage can make Link have all the courage he needs to withstand any obstacle. Link has no fear (so it seems). If I was in Hyrule, I'd be extremely scared if I saw arrows wizzing by my head. I don't want to get shot.

Triforce of Wisdom...probably doesn't actually give her unlimitless knowledge, but knowledge of another sence. Haven't you ever wondered why all the Zeldas have "Mystical Powers"? Take a look at this:

Telepathy: ALttP and FSA
Break Magical Barriers: ALttP, OoT, and FSA
Making Bridges/Barriers: OoT, FSA, and tMC
Psychic: OoT (she foresaw Link's arival, didn't she )

Now I don't know if that's caused by magic, or because she's Hylian. I don't know. Sure in ALttP they explained the myth about "Hylians have pointy ears so they could possibly listen to the Goddesses speak", but it never said anything about telepathy. All of those powers could have been coming from the Triforce of Wisdom or the Light Force explained in tMC.

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Old 05-03-2005, 03:50 PM
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Link doesn't seem any braver once he has the ToC, though. He doesn't do anything more daring.

And Zelda was never wise. She has never done anything smart. Examples:

"Tee hee! There's an all-powerful warlord trying to take over the world! I know! I'll deal with him myself and cast the entire world into eternal darkness! Yay!"-OoT
She never tried to do it herself, she entrusted link to do it, but didn't expect him to be sealed for 7 years.

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"I'll help you, Link! Just stand still while I shoot you with Light Arrows! What's that? Just shoot at Ganon? Don't be silly! That would never work!"-WW
Exactly, it would never work. Ganon was completely on guard, and the only way to catch him off guard was to do something like reflect the arrow off your shield.

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"I know! Instead of hiding the Triforce of Wisdom into a difficult-to-find place, I'll just throw it in a dungeon that Ganon could raze in an instant!"-LoZ
She split it into many pieces, and had them guarded by monsters in different dungeons. At the time she had no idea link would come and Ganon would have found the triforce nomatter where she hid it.

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"Link! We must defeat Ganon! I'll run around in circles and ready a spell, while you protect me and shoot the spell for me! What's that? Go somewhere where he can't get me and shoot the spell myself? What are you talking about?"-FSA
There was nowhere for her to hide in that room and she couldnt read the spell and shoot an arrow at the same time. link had the bow, what would be the point?

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"OMG! Fair! Fair! I wanna buy this! Ooh, look at that! Yay! I'm a stupid, hyperactive bimbo! WOOO! Ooh, pretty lights! Tee hee! I love drugs!"-MC
Well, she was a child and she had no idea there was danger near so she was just enjoying the fair. Besides, she didn't even have ToW in that game.

Pretty much all that happened was *Ganon touched triforce, triforce split, ganon got power. wisdom and courage went to the two people most suited for the titles.
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Old 05-03-2005, 05:37 PM
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Basically, The Tri of Power gives Ganondorf's ability to become Ganon (obviously), Tri of Wisdom gives Zelda the power and wisdom of magic to help Link out like BGS said, and Tri of Courage gives Link the courage to face up to anything. They just don't seem to take a big effect. That's my thoughts.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: Effects of the Triforce

It looks like the Triforce of Courage doesn't do anything special.... but maybe Link gets it because he's the only one who is courageous enough to protect it from anyone a lot more powerful. (If he thinks that this "anyone"(=Ganondorf) should not get all the triforce pieces to make a wish...)
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:45 PM
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Who says each piece has to do anything. When the triforce is touched by a corrupted hand with an unbalanced heart the pieces have to seperate and go SOMEWHERE. They just find a person that fills the role and latches onto them accordingly until they can all be put back together(which is the ultimate purpose). I think they just magnify the abilities that the receiver already possesses. In Ganon's case, he may or may not have received a substanial power boost, or he just relied on it to strike fear into people, but it probably did assist in his transformation. Link gets ToC because he's already couragous, it doesn't give him any courage, it just BELONGS with him until it can be put with the others again, maybe he's just the right vessel for it. Maybe that goes for the others too. I might be repeating stuff already said, but just throwing in my two cents! if I'm wrong..uh, feel free to flame this!
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