Multiple ganons

in WW, link stabs ganon in the head right, then he turns to stone. But the zelda timeline said that the last game was AOL. But the reason he was "dead" was because link from ALTTP killed him with silver arrows. so what happened to the ganon in WW? And why did he become a moblin-like creature?

Originally Posted by zeldamaster2008

in WW, link stabs ganon in the head right, then he turns to stone. But the zelda timeline said that the last game was AOL. But the reason he was "dead" was because link from ALTTP killed him with silver arrows. so what happened to the ganon in WW? And why did he become a moblin-like creature?

First off, Gannon isnt in TWW. Its only Gannondorf. And, they are all different stories that are told of how Gannon was destoryed. And at the end of OOT, Gannondorf swears that he will 'get' link and zeldas anscestors, and he does just that in the wind waker. Finaly, he isnt moblin-like in WW, Its just the cell-shading. It kinda screws up the resolution

I don't think that Ganon was killed at all, just sealed away in the Evil Realm. And he keeps escaping every so often and trying to get revenge on Link. And he wasn't exactly "killed" in ALTTP either.

You know I heard some where that a holder of a triforce piece can never be killed for real. So it's possible that he never did die at all.

Originally Posted by dark-isaac

I don't think that Ganon was killed at all, just sealed away in the Evil Realm. And he keeps escaping every so often and trying to get revenge on Link. And he wasn't exactly "killed" in ALTTP either.

Yep...I agree. You never see Ganon really die...and if you pay close attention during all those important plot-revealing scenes they always just sorta tell you that Ganon or Ganondorf (depending on the game) had been sealed away/sent away and is now somehow back...I feel as tho they have been very shady in the games when it comes to this topic...but I guess that its easier to be vague because that allows them creative room for writing storylines to new games.

[quote=SageSaria]Yep...I agree. You never see Ganon really die...and if you pay close attention during all those important plot-revealing scenes they always just sorta tell you that Ganon or Ganondorf (depending on the game) had been sealed away/sent away and is now somehow back...QUOTE]
Yeah, that or turned to ashes (LoZ) so he could be revived.

Originally Posted by rockman64

First off, Gannon isnt in TWW. Its only Gannondorf.

LttP's (Japanese) manual says "The man's name was Ganondorf, and his common name was Ganon of the race of evil thieves." So it's fine to call him Ganon even when he's non-piggy. Everyone calls him Ganon in WW, and Phantom Ganon was created before Ganon turned piggy.

And, they are all different stories that are told of how Gannon was destoryed. And at the end of OOT, Gannondorf swears that he will 'get' link and zeldas anscestors, and he does just that in the wind waker.

He travels back in time? =P You mean "descendants", not "ancestors".

It's yet to be revealed how Ganon came back from the end of Wind Waker (it may be revealed in the upcoming game). However take into account that he may not actually be dead, just turned to stone like Zelda was in The Minish Cap. And even if he is dead we know from Adventure of Link and the Oracle games that it is possible to bring Ganon back to life.

There have been numerous explanations for how Ganon took on a piggy form. In the original NES games, set in the normal world, we never knew that he ever had a non-piggy form. In Link to the Past Ganon is trapped inside the Dark World, we're told that in the Dark World you take on a form of what is inside your heart. In Ocarina of Time Ganon transforms into a piggy in the normal world with his own power (probably because of the Triforce of Power in his possession). In Four Swords Adventures (which I haven't played yet) I've heard that it is suggested that the power of the Trident helped Ganon transform into a piggy again.

So it seems that Ganon can take on his piggy form in numerous ways, and that it is the image he holds inside his wicked heart that he just needs the power to unleash.

And he wasn't exactly "killed" in ALTTP either.

Actually, you're right. He wasn't killed. He was DESTROYED.

EDIT: Oh, and he WAS killed in LoZ.

Yes, at the end of the original game, A Link to the Past and Wind Waker, Ganon bites the big one. So naturally, they can't all be the same Ganon.

I believe there is only one Ganon. Do any of you remember how Ganon could come back alive in Adventure of Link? If Link's blood were spilled upon Ganon's ashes, he would return. At the end of ALttP, he may be destroyed, but no doubt Link shed some blood in the battle, and some of the blood was used to revive Ganon. In OoT, it's evident that he is not killed, but imprisoned, so no argue there.

alright, first he isnt a moblin he is an evil creature created by gannondorf unintentionaly when he got the tri force of power. i think that he stood the like a stone untill somehow the master sword was removed and was placed somewhere.

Originally Posted by Grey

Yes, at the end of the original game, A Link to the Past and Wind Waker, Ganon bites the big one. So naturally, they can't all be the same Ganon.

Ahh, but Ganon can be brought back to life. In Adventure of Link there is a plot to bring Ganon back to life with Link's blood and at the end of the Oracle games Ganon is brought back to life (although Link screwed the ritual up and only a mindless raging Ganon was revived and Link managed to take him down surely enough).

Originally Posted by Crazy Penguin

Ahh, but Ganon can be brought back to life. In Adventure of Link there is a plot to bring Ganon back to life with Link's blood and at the end of the Oracle games Ganon is brought back to life (although Link screwed the ritual up and only a mindless raging Ganon was revived and Link managed to take him down surely enough).

But I see no evidence that leads me to believe this is the case. In the original and ALttP, it seems as if Ganon just pops out of the woodwork, making me think they're all different, instead of the same one revived by crazy cultists (like Dracula) .

Originally Posted by Grey

But I see no evidence that leads me to believe this is the case. In the original and ALttP, it seems as if Ganon just pops out of the woodwork, making me think they're all different, instead of the same one revived by crazy cultists (like Dracula) .

They don't necessarily have to have been revived just before the games started, many centuries separate a lot of the games. People who have translated the Japanese LttP manual say that the origin of Ganon is worded in such a way that suggests the reader should already be familiar with him - that would be Ganon from the NES games. This suggests that Ganon in LttP and the NES games are the same person.

Why would we be told that Ganon can be brought back to life in one game, and SHOWN that Ganon can be brought back to life in another if that was not intended to be the case with all of Ganon's post-death appearances?

ganon must have someone reviving him everytime without us knowing who it is

But we do know who it is most of the time. It was Twinrova in the Oracle games etc.

The only times we knew it was a recurring Ganon was in Wind Waker when the N64 Ganon returned, and in the Oracle games when the ALttP Ganon was resurrected. That's it.

Yeh howver i'm 99% sure That they all are the same Ganon. Multiple ganons would kind of defeat the object of not killing him complately in any game.