There is no real Zelda timeline...

Like the title says. BTW, before i start posting my part of the argument, hello, i am Squiggy, i'm new here. some of yo may have seen my post in the comment boxes before they were diabled.

anyway... on to the point.

There is no real Zelda timeline. the reason people are confused with how to link the different games together, like with what games go in what order, is because they aren't supposed to be all connected like a history book.

Yes, some games are directly linked to others, like how Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to A Link to the Past, and how Majora's Mask is a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time.

If there were supposed to be a full timeline, then the Oracle games wouldn't have been interchangeable. yeah, when you link them with a password or whatever, they both end up with the same destiny, where Link defeats Ganon and whatnot, but people would be arguing in what order the other events come in, whether it be OoS-OoA, or vice-versa. Nintendo tried to pull off a stupid stunt in trying to make a timeline by making Wind Waker take place some long time after OoT (but 100 years is physically impossible for an ocean to form... that can be a different rant). true, Wind Waker was a great game, with a great story, but they shouldn't try to make any more timeline stuff. sure, the occasional sequel to the vastly successful games, but not making an entire timeline and linking all of the games together by putting all the events in differnt orders.

and regarding timeline still, this new game is not going to be a Wind Waker 2. i know this for a fact, because first off, the style is different. every time the art style changes, so does Link, so does Zelda, so does Hyrule. And no, this is not the OoT art style. much too realistic for OoT's style. but just because they make a new link, in a new age, doesn't men they have to make it a whole new age of Hyrule that's linked to the other Zelda games. if they want to do a Ages of Hyrule concept, why not just borrow the whole Linking Book idea from Cyan's Myst games? (though a Zelda with Mystesque puzzles WOULD be awesome).

so Zelda is not supposed to have any real timeline, and Zelda 05 is not going to be Wind Waker 2. besides, if it was, then that would mean that Link and Tetra/Zelda leave the Great Sea and find some big land with a great monarchal civilization and Tetra suddenly becomes princess of this new land which is coincidentally called Hyrule. it wouldn't make any sense, and would lead up to s a stupid plot device.

so anyway, if you have anything, ANYTHING at all to say proving against what i said here go ahead and post. i know i sound like i have a bit of an ego, but bear with me here, i'm just some new guy who makes fan submissions for Planet Zebeth and Zelda Comic, but i do have forum-sense, as i mainly go to Project Jenova, Planet Zebeth's official forum.

OO OO Let me try the quote game:

Originally Posted by Squiggy

There is no real Zelda timeline. the reason people are confused with how to link the different games together, like with what games go in what order, is because they aren't supposed to be all connected like a history book.

How do you explain the comments made by Shigeru. That the Wind Waker placed after OoT and before ALttP. I can't remember the link, but I remember reading that here.

Yes, some games are directly linked to others, like how Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to A Link to the Past, and how Majora's Mask is a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time.

You also forgot the reference to the Hero of Time in Wind Waker. That's a link.

and regarding timeline still, this new game is not going to be a Wind Waker 2.

There was never ANY confirmation that the new game coming out would be named that. That's speculation. They might make a new one named WW2.

so Zelda is not supposed to have any real timeline, and Zelda 05 is not going to be Wind Waker 2. besides, if it was, then that would mean that Link and Tetra/Zelda leave the Great Sea and find some big land with a great monarchal civilization and Tetra suddenly becomes princess of this new land which is coincidentally called Hyrule. it wouldn't make any sense, and would lead up to s a stupid plot device.

Once again, speculation that the new game is called WW2. Don't talk about what you can't prove/

so anyway, if you have anything, ANYTHING at all to say proving against what i said here go ahead and post. i know i sound like i have a bit of an ego, but bear with me here, i'm just some new guy who makes fan submissions for Planet Zebeth and Zelda Comic, but i do have forum-sense, as i mainly go to Project Jenova, Planet Zebeth's official forum.

...For someone who visits Zebeth (Which I HOPE is a Metroid Forum), did you ever try to disprove the Metroid Timeline. Because, my friend, there is also a timeline for that series as well...

Nintendo has a huge document explaining how each game is tied to another. Umm.....

What everyone else said. There's a timeline for the series, and they interact and tie to one another. So I don't know where the 'there is no real Zelda' idea comes from...=o.O=

Originally Posted by New_Atrocity

Nintendo has a huge document explaining how each game is tied to another. Umm.....

do you have a link? you gonna give us a link to a Fan's Timeline? :razz:

ahh crap.

and technically, i did prove that the new zelda for gc can't be wind waker 2, because if it was, nothing in it would really make sense. i never said that there wasn't going to be one, however.

anyway, i guess i can just keep thinking what ireally want to think. i should've had Lord Zogbog from the Project Jen forums write the rant. i suck at rants.

and to Lozzie, yes, Planet Zebeth is a Metroid sprite comic. it's official forum is Project Jenova. and no, i didn't make any rants about Metroid not having areal timeline, because it's kind of obvious that the Metroid games have a timeline because it's the same Samus over again. Metroid, Zero Mission, Prime, Prime 2, Metroid 2, Super Metroid, and Metroid fusion. that's the order of events.

but...

again, i really suck at rants. i guess imight as wel just give in and go back to thinking for the timeline for Zelda... damn, isuck at rants. every time i've tried to rant, i always get flamed, or pseudo-flamed.

anyway, you can just ignore this thread now. just nevermind. i should've trusted my instincts and just not made this topic. just.. forget this thread.

While of course there is meant to be a degree of connectivity between the games, as with OoT-TWW-ALttP, and LoZ-AoL... of COURSE there is no FULL timeline that incorporates all of the games, otherwise the authors of the game would have released one.

There are too many contardictions between games for a view by the authors to actually be HELD. Of course we can make our own that will try and fit them all together, but the sad truth is that if they were all meant to flow in a line it would at least be somewhat clearer. As it is, they can be slotted into our own artificial timelines, which works for me and makes me happy, but don't expect the next Zelda game to not introduce even more inconsistencies...

for those who want a timeline, just say chronoligical order, apart from OoT and MM coming before everything else. simple.

The Hyrule Ocean was a result of the Gods, so you would expect the place to flood quite quickly.

There is no full, workable timeline that takes all the games into account. There are simply too many of them, with too many inconsistencies.

However, some of you have probably noticed that, since Aonuma took charge of the series, Nintendo has been making a clear effort to link the games together more clearly.


This new game IS the Wind Waker 2. This is a fact, an indisputable fact.

Before E3, everyone knew that "tWW2" was in development. It was mentioned in interviews, etc., etc. After E3, in an interveiw with Miyamoto and Aonuma, they said, straight out, that "tWW2" that they had been referring to was Z'05. Does that mean that it's the same Link, or set directly afterwords in the timeline? No, of course not.

Originally Posted by http://cube.ign.com/articles/517/517033p1.html

At the Game Developers Conference in March, Nintendo producer Eiji Aonuma met with select members of the press to talk about the next console installment in the Zelda franchise. At the time, the title now known simply as Legend of Zelda was still being referred to as "Wind Waker 2" and very few details about the adventure had been released.

Originally Posted by http://cube.ign.com/articles/517/517033p1.html

Eiji Aonuma: Of course, at E3 our big focus will be on the "Wind Waker 2", which is under development as we speak. We'll have a big push for that [at the show] and anything related to Zelda developments on the DS will probably come at some point after that.

Originally Posted by http://cube.ign.com/articles/514/514589p1.html

Miyamoto: Mr. Aonuma actually wasn't lying at the Game Developer's Conference when he said we were working on Wind Waker 2. He just didn't tell the whole story. And fortunately because he didn't tell the whole story, we were able to surprise you all here with a big announcement about the series.

I think you cabn make a timeline if you are open minded. OoS comes before OoA because the pirates, in OoS are in a desert and find their way to the ocean. In OoA, they are in the Sea. And I think that a timeline could work.

Not if you want to go into even a little bit of detail.

All I know is MM came after OOT, and WW came 100 years after OOT.

Hundreds of years later, at least. Far more then 100 years.

Nintendo tried to pull off a stupid stunt in trying to make a timeline by making Wind Waker take place some long time after OoT (but 100 years is physically impossible for an ocean to form... that can be a different rant).

All I know is MM came after OOT, and WW came 100 years after OOT.

It is far more than a hundred years, especially when you consider the fact that the 'Rito have lived under the protection of the sky spirit Valoo for ages.' When the designers said 'one hundred years' they were understating the gap between games.

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

This new game IS the Wind Waker 2. This is a fact, an indisputable fact.

I believe that it is directly connected to the Wind Waker, but not a sequel. Perhaps a prequel?

I honestly don't have any opinion on how it'll be connected to tWW, storyline-wise. I just get very annoyed when people talk about this game and tWW2, as if they are seperate games.