Four Swords not a Side Series (Spoilers)

*First off, excuse typing errors if there are any, im really off today*

Also, Spoilers to the Minish Cap, FS series, and possibly others may be scattered through this thread so beware

This is completely in theory but ive come to a conclusion that FS is not a side series as many have thought but rather occurences before the Imprisoning War (OoT) thanks to help from the Minsih Cap Story.

Ok in the Minish Cap, your main enemy is Vaati. Your main weapon is the Four Sword (formed from the White Blade with all four elemental stones). This stone is later acquired by a future link to fight vaati after he takes his demon form at the end of the Minish Cap. this link acquires the Sword from what i believe the same shrine it is placed in at the end of the minish cap. Plus, in these games there has been no reference (to my knowledge) of ganon(dorf). This means that he has not yet been a threat. Plus, in AlttP, there is a temple on the Pyramid of Power called The Palace of the Four Sword. Thereby referencing that temple that the sword is in possibly. However, this is proof that the events of Four Swords have taken place. Besides, there has been nothing in the Four Swords/MC series(also to my knowledge) of the Master Sword.

If this is correct then , Nintendo has given themselves room to do several things next, they can make a game explaining the prologue of The Minish Cap, yet another prequel, or a sequel to Four Swords Adventures that will possibly explain the formation of The Master Sword and why The Four Sword was no longer used.

Since the stories fit together so well, i dont see why we have to consider The Four Swords series its own thing. It works far to well with the main story for that.

hmm... TMC did clear alot of things up... alot

No, not directly but if you put some thought into it, i believe it confirmed what ive believed for awhile, that Four Swords is not a separate thing.

Originally Posted by xaej

No, not directly but if you put some thought into it, i believe it confirmed what ive believed for awhile, that Four Swords is not a separate thing.

I allways think that each Zelda is part of the story because it isnt like Mario..

Originally Posted by trinest

I allways think that each Zelda is part of the story because it isnt like Mario..

I agree, I have always thought that each game contibutes to the never ending story of Zelda.

You did say something about the palace of the four sword. I think that was just a add on to ALLTP.

Actually the palace of the four sword IS an add on for the GBA version. The palace of the Four Sword really had no connection with FS or FSA, it was just a side quest you could do.

FS and FSA might happen before OoT, but MC happens after them. Why? Firstly, Biggoron is at Veil Falls, and secondly, if you get the 'Goron' figurine from Carlov, it says that the Gorons once lived on Mt.Crenel, which is basically Death Mountain. In OoT, Gorons where still living on Death Mountain. Something(possibly the opening of the mine the humans made there) caused the Gorons to leave Death Mountain.

Originally Posted by EdgeMaster

FS and FSA might happen before OoT, but MC happens after them. Why? Firstly, Biggoron is at Veil Falls, and secondly, if you get the 'Goron' figurine from Carlov, it says that the Gorons once lived on Mt.Crenel, which is basically Death Mountain. In OoT, Gorons where still living on Death Mountain. Something(possibly the opening of the mine the humans made there) caused the Gorons to leave Death Mountain.

Actually Minish Cap is before both four swords games.

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In the Minish Cap you collect all the stones to create the Four Sword, before that, there was no such thing, just the Picori sword

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Originally Posted by xaej

*First off, excuse typing errors if there are any, im really off today*

Also, Spoilers to the Minish Cap, FS series, and possibly others may be scattered through this thread so beware

This is completely in theory but ive come to a conclusion that FS is not a side series as many have thought but rather occurences before the Imprisoning War (OoT) thanks to help from the Minsih Cap Story.

Ok in the Minish Cap, your main enemy is Vaati. Your main weapon is the Four Sword (formed from the White Blade with all four elemental stones). This stone is later acquired by a future link to fight vaati after he takes his demon form at the end of the Minish Cap. this link acquires the Sword from what i believe the same shrine it is placed in at the end of the minish cap. Plus, in these games there has been no reference (to my knowledge) of ganon(dorf). This means that he has not yet been a threat. Plus, in AlttP, there is a temple on the Pyramid of Power called The Palace of the Four Sword. Thereby referencing that temple that the sword is in possibly. However, this is proof that the events of Four Swords have taken place. Besides, there has been nothing in the Four Swords/MC series(also to my knowledge) of the Master Sword.

If this is correct then , Nintendo has given themselves room to do several things next, they can make a game explaining the prologue of The Minish Cap, yet another prequel, or a sequel to Four Swords Adventures that will possibly explain the formation of The Master Sword and why The Four Sword was no longer used.

Since the stories fit together so well, i dont see why we have to consider The Four Swords series its own thing. It works far to well with the main story for that.

Imposible. Miyamoto has said that OoT is first in the timeline, meaning Ganon has ALWAYS been a threat.

Times change, 8bit. What was true yesterday, or in this case, seven or eight years ago, is not necessarily true today.

FS and FSA might happen before OoT, but MC happens after them. Why? Firstly, Biggoron is at Veil Falls, and secondly, if you get the 'Goron' figurine from Carlov, it says that the Gorons once lived on Mt.Crenel, which is basically Death Mountain. In OoT, Gorons where still living on Death Mountain. Something(possibly the opening of the mine the humans made there) caused the Gorons to leave Death Mountain.

Obviously there is more than one Biggoron throughout the series, or he just moves around lot. That cannot be used as evidence.

And assuming that Mount Crenel is Death Mountain is... quite the assumption, considering it has a different name, it's in a different location, it has different buildings, and it has no spectacle rock.

Neither of your reasons are strong evidence for anything.


Xaej: FSA does reference Ganon, actually. Have you played it? That game is the one that gave birth to the whole idea that the Four Swords games are a seperate story, though I, personally, never even considered it.


Moved to General Zelda.

Does anyone think that the Picori Blade looks like the Master Sword? And in the intro of TMC, you see Link holding up a sword that looks like the Master Sword! Coincidence, or fate? Or just a common sword design?

I always thought that tmc was after alttp. It tmc, Hyrule Castle looks bigger in ways. Say for example, in alttp when you're resquing Zelda in Hyrule Castle, the level over her cell is a tiny rectangle, then on tmc that room is very big.

lord-of-shadow , first off sorry for putting this in future, i think that was an accident. second, i have play FSA i just seemed to forget references of ganon in that game. Well, that alone i guess could mess up my theory except that there is one man born of the gerudo tribe every 100 years. that being said, it could be a different ganon(dorf)

Well ive been playing FSA, which is, according to you, set before OOT? This is possible, because when i go to the desert, the Gerudos say that Ganondorf went inside the temple (ganonDORF, not GANON), so ganondorf was already alive and beginning his evil stuff, lol. So what you say is: first TMC, FS, FSA, OOT, and then the rest? I think it is indeed possible..But Ganon already is in his pig form thing when you fight him in FSA..ugh, lol its pretty confusing

The one thing that is absolutely confusing the hell out of me is that

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when you beat Ganon in fsa you seal him in the four sword. But how does he get out of the fs? FSA is before oot because the lost woods are not yet lost, they are the woods of light.

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If you ever completed the Minish Cap you will realise that it is the first in the series. Once you complete the game you get a normal green cap and in the prologue the past Link has no cap. Besides from that their loads of other hints dropped in the game.