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Old 05-14-2012, 09:43 AM
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

When really analysing the matter, it is a wonder that the Hero of Time could come through as the victor against Ganon. Link is a prepubescent boy, commanding the unfamiliar body of a grown young man. Walking would surely we a difficult task, right? He likely never held a sword until, perhaps, weeks prior to his fateful duel. Hell, it's implied he had never even opened a door until Navi joined him.
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Old 05-14-2012, 09:48 AM
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When really analysing the matter, it is a wonder that the Hero of Time could come through as the victor against Ganon. Link is a prepubescent boy, commanding the unfamiliar body of a grown young man. Walking would surely we a difficult task, right? He likely never held a sword until, perhaps, weeks prior to his fateful duel. Hell, it's implied he had never even opened a door until Navi joined him.
He's a quick learner! xD Besides, I'm sure he's had plenty of time off to get used to his adult body, and to train.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:58 PM
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

Know whats an even better question? why is it that in the triad of Wisdom, Courage, and Power, why is it that Power is the only piece that can grow corrupt? huh? whats up with that? ♥♥♥♥ers! ♥♥♥♥ERS! its like... Wisdom and Courage have to keep Power in line... make sure it doesnt get let off the hook. that doesnt seem like a mutual triangle of glory at all. this isnt at all rock, paper, scissors- its paper beats rock, and scissors beats rock. What the hell?
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Old 05-26-2012, 08:32 AM
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Know whats an even better question? why is it that in the triad of Wisdom, Courage, and Power, why is it that Power is the only piece that can grow corrupt? huh? whats up with that? ♥♥♥♥ers! ♥♥♥♥ERS! its like... Wisdom and Courage have to keep Power in line... make sure it doesnt get let off the hook. that doesnt seem like a mutual triangle of glory at all. this isnt at all rock, paper, scissors- its paper beats rock, and scissors beats rock. What the hell?
Yes, it is
That's why Link(Courage) beats Ganon(Power) and Ganon kidnaps Zelda(Wisdom)

Either way, Link wins by being the protagonist. And he's the hero, and he's controlled by people that know how to beat Ganon. In the end he's [Ganon's] still a living being, and thus have weakenesses
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:16 AM
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

I was gonna say that there's a Timeline where Ganondorf DOES win, but everyone's already said that, so yeah. Isn't Twilight Princess in the same timeline?
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:34 PM
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

It's usually stated in a prophecy that the Chosen Hero should always return to combat evil and defeat it. He's also the protagonist. It would be preposterous if Link lost to Ganon more than once.
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Old 05-26-2012, 02:48 PM
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

Once he lost because he's afraid of fishing rods.

Otherwise he's proud and underestimates Links skills and he never uses a shield so he's bound to take far more damage.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:47 PM
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Know whats an even better question? why is it that in the triad of Wisdom, Courage, and Power, why is it that Power is the only piece that can grow corrupt? huh? whats up with that? ♥♥♥♥ers! ♥♥♥♥ERS! its like... Wisdom and Courage have to keep Power in line... make sure it doesnt get let off the hook. that doesnt seem like a mutual triangle of glory at all. this isnt at all rock, paper, scissors- its paper beats rock, and scissors beats rock. What the hell?
'Power Corrupts; Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.'

But do keep in Mind that Ganon is the avatar of a Millenia-old Demon-king who trapped himself into a deliberate war that is the reincarnation cycle.

Add in the fact that most inherent villians in any form of reality, fictional or otherwise, are obsessed with power, whereas the courageous seek it only to accomplish what they cannot do alone, and the Wise only use as much as is needed for a given situation.

'Any fool can wield power, it takes someone of great courage and wisdom to avoid resorting to it.' (-myself, ironically just after I threw the first punch after a classmate hazed me and called my family [a bunch of] freaks)
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

According to the timeline he doesn't *tries to keep straight face*
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:29 AM
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According to the timeline he doesn't *tries to keep straight face*
It depends on which branch of the timeline you're looking at from OoT. :p
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:03 AM
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Because realism isn't Zelda's strong suit...
That must mean pretty much every story where the good guy ends up winning isn't realistic.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:34 AM
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Because realism isn't Zelda's strong suit...
That must mean pretty much every story where the good guy ends up winning isn't realistic.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:17 PM
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But seriously, Games aren't reality, games would (usually) be better than reality, but that's because they just aren't reality.
Adding to that, one of the main reasons, people play games is to escape reality (as in, to amuse yourself, when there's, for example, a ton of bills to pay)

And, I also believe, that Ganon loses because of his own stupidity, because a lot of his moves could have gone smoother with better planning, in the end, he's just raw power. He can't really win with only that
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:24 PM
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Adding to that, one of the main reasons, people play games is to escape reality (as in, to amuse yourself, when there's, for example, a ton of bills to pay)

And, I also believe, that Ganon loses because of his own stupidity, because a lot of his moves could have gone smoother with better planning, in the end, he's just raw power. He can't really win with only that
Pretty much.

Look at what happened during OoT.

In the first meeting, he could've easily killed Link, but decided to let him live because he felt the boy wasn't good enough. This, after he knew the boy was on a quest to stop him.

The second meeting (or at least when he's obviously spying on Link and Zelda to pick the perfect moment to capture her), he could've zapped Link there, too.

His arrogance always gets him at the end. If he just stopped and thought things through, he would have an advantage.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:13 AM
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Re: Why does Ganon lose?

I've sometimes thought, what if all the times we play the games are "alternate timelines", meaning if we lose, one Hyrule out of a billion billion billion Hyrules in the multiversepool is doomed. That'd mean Ganon probably wins more than Link, actually. He is not too bad at fighting, as stated in this thread.
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