An interesting observation...

While looking at the stickied Quotes topic by OldBeane, I realized there was an important difference between the intro dialogue in the GBA and SNES ALttP games. In the SNES version, it spoke of the king commanding 7 wise men to seal to gate to the sacred realm. In the GBA version, however, the king commanded 7 sages. Seven sages- wait, doesn't that remind you of OoT? In OoT, the seven sages Rauru, Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Nabooru, Impa, and Zelda did seal the Door of Time, aka the door to the sacred realm. This is more proof that OoT must come before ALttP. However, you may now be wondering about the textual difference between the SNES and GBA games. This is simple. Since OoT was not created by the time ALttP was released on the SNES, the 7 wise men were used in the intro. However, I think that when Nintendo decided to re-release the game, they altered the text to 7 sages because OoT was released, and Nintendo had decided that OoT came chronologically before ALttP.
Discuss.

Yeah, I think this has been established for over a year, but it's still good that you noticed it for yourself.

Captain Obvious comes to the rescue! They also took out the line "Zelda is your...", by the way, because there were too many people claiming that the line trailed off to say "Zelda is your sister", despite the Japanese version stating that the phrase is indeed "Zelda is your destiny".

I'm just wondering why some people don't take Nintendo's statement of Ocarina of Time being a prequel to the other Zelda games as proof. Oh, well. At least they can't argue with the above facts (unless they're Luigi 64, but that's another universe altogether).

Luigi in Mario 64. That takes me back. Sorta like the "pikablue" scare (who turned up as Marril)

But yes, I remember talking about this when the GBA version came out. They are different

I was glad they changed it. Although, as mentioned, some people still refuse to face the facts.
I think it also proves that OoT was the Imprisoning War, which for some reason is also being debated.

It's been obvious for years that the Imprisoning War of the LttP manual is OoT, and the changes in the GBA version just help confirm this.

However... I sitll hate the changes. They changed a lot fo the dialogue in the GBA version, most of the time just making it worse, for absolutely no reason. I really hate that. All these people playing LttP for the first time on the GBA aren't playing LttP - they're playing some stunted, inferior version.

I have only played the GBA ALttP and I wish it had been an exact port. Judging from what I have read I think most of the changes were:
Wise men changed to sages
Uncle does not say "Zelda is your...."
OoT Link's voice was added
Guards make jingling sound before attacking

If I'm wrong anyone who's played the original version can correct me.
I don't see how any of these changes improved the game. The wise men can be explained because the OoT story is a legend, and details of legends change over time.When your uncle says his last line, it increases the gamer's interest in the story, even if it is controversial. I love OoT, but the child Link yells added nothing. If anything, they just made the game feel a tad gimicky, and they remind me that I am not playing the original version.
I wish ported games would remain in their original form. Even though I have Master Quest and the Collector Edition, I still play my cartidge version of OoT because I miss the Fire Temple choir (the new music is horrible) and the blood at the end. What on earth is Ganon(dorf) supposed to be spewing-mucus?! Although I do like the new Gerudo emblem more than the crescent moon and star (Turkey's flag, I believe) but I noticed they forgot to remove the emblem from Dampe's grave. At least they didn't change Sheik's name in an attempt to remove all Muslim connections.

Ah I didn't know people already knew this... Oh well.
I merely brought it up, as many (new) people on this board have been contemplating theories that ALttP comes chronologically first.
Nintendo really did release a statement saying OoT comes first?
And Hylian Dan, the few textual changes I'm sure were just to add clarity to how the Zelda games all fit together. As for Link's new voice, Nintendo was just flaunting the GBA's new capabilities. But the Guards' jingling... not too much of a big deal. However, there were many more changes that were positive, like the new start screen, and the FS bonuses.

Yes. Its offical from Nintendo that OOT is first

Originally Posted by Reamia

While looking at the stickied Quotes topic by OldBeane, I realized there was an important difference between the intro dialogue in the GBA and SNES ALttP games. In the SNES version, it spoke of the king commanding 7 wise men to seal to gate to the sacred realm. In the GBA version, however, the king commanded 7 sages. Seven sages- wait, doesn't that remind you of OoT? In OoT, the seven sages Rauru, Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Nabooru, Impa, and Zelda did seal the Door of Time, aka the door to the sacred realm. This is more proof that OoT must come before ALttP. However, you may now be wondering about the textual difference between the SNES and GBA games. This is simple. Since OoT was not created by the time ALttP was released on the SNES, the 7 wise men were used in the intro. However, I think that when Nintendo decided to re-release the game, they altered the text to 7 sages because OoT was released, and Nintendo had decided that OoT came chronologically before ALttP.
Discuss.

Okay, even assuming that you're blind and had genuinely never seen anyone bring this up before, did you seriously think that no-one else would have noticed this "revelation" already?

"Discuss.", indeed .

On the subject of why the topic isn't dead though, it's easy: people still don't get how a Sheikha, a Goron, a Kokiri, a Zora, a Gerudo, a Daphnes-esque apparition and the Princess all somehow ended up with quasi-Hylian descendants (the Maidens).

Terranix, while I had noticed this before (not the difference in text; I mean that OoT came first), many people were saying that ALttP or LoZ came first in the timeline. If there wasn't enough proof already, I was adding more. Look at the thread on this board, entitled "In regards to the Zelda timeline..."
My thread was to perhaps shed some light on some existing facts that they were unaware of. I knew many people thought OoT came first, but some didn't.
And I'm excusing your rudeness.

There is tons of proof...its general knowledge that OOT is first. How could someone not know that? I see what Terranix is saying. They all do end up with maidens somehow yes, but in the LTTP GBA they did change one to a Goron and one to a Zora.

Originally Posted by Reamia

If there wasn't enough proof already, I was adding more.

That was my point though. It's been said before. Many times. So it isn't really "more".

Look at the thread on this board, entitled "In regards to the Zelda timeline..."

'Kay. Though the relevance seems tenuous...

My thread was to perhaps shed some light on some existing facts

As opposed to non-existant facts?

And I'm excusing your rudeness.

How very sporting of you :razz: .

but in the LTTP GBA they did change one to a Goron and one to a Zora.

Not on my cart, buddy. You sure?

That was my point though. It's been said before. Many times. So it isn't really "more".

Yes, I know it has. And I've known that OoT came first. But as I said, if you looked at the topic entitled "In Regards to the Zelda timeline...," many people were posting theories saying that OoT was one of the last games. Therefore, I just decided to post my observation.

'Kay. Though the relevance seems tenuous...

It is relevant.

As opposed to non-existant facts?

No, as in the existing facts that were perhaps unknown by some.

How very sporting of you :razz: .

*rolls eyes*

Not on my cart, buddy. You sure?

I didn't know that... any proof at all?

I know more about a video game than you do!

Honostly, if they had to make changes then its Nintendo's way of subtly admitting they aren't perfect and that the Zelda series was not meant to be so linearly clean from day 1.

Originally Posted by Lord Yoshi

...but in the LTTP GBA they did change one to a Goron and one to a Zora.

Umm... No.

Originally Posted by Reamia

But as I said, if you looked at the topic entitled "In Regards to the Zelda timeline...," many people were posting theories saying that OoT was one of the last games. Therefore, I just decided to post my observation.

Which had been made a thousand times before. Right.

It is relevant.

Only in that it also concerns continuity.

No, as in the existing facts that were perhaps unknown by some.

You say "As in an orange.", I say "Oh, you mean an orange.", your reply is "No, I do mean an orange.". What the hell?