Eat Some, Double A: Wii Price Drop Coming in October

Meh, I think for its price, Express is comparable to the retail game and it's price/quantity.

But I can see why someone would so easily pass it up.

Originally Posted by raunm

It's still not that great of a system.

Your opinion does not matter in the world of business.

This pricecut isn't a matter of "the Wii SUXORZ, it dont deserv 2 b so hi-priced", it's a matter of "the pricecut should have been a last-resort move. Nintendo aren't even close to needing something like that." Read my previous posts as to why.

Originally Posted by Double A

Your opinion does not matter in the world of business.

This pricecut isn't a matter of "the Wii SUXORZ, it dont deserv 2 b so hi-priced", it's a matter of "the pricecut should have been a last-resort move. Nintendo aren't even close to needing something like that." Read my previous posts as to why.

And yours does? :/

The Wii will do fine. Lobbing fifty bucks off really isn't that big of a deal.

Originally Posted by raunm

And yours does? :/

No, it doesn't. As a gamer, I wouldn't actually mind about the pricecut, since it doesn't directly affect me (it doesn't affect most of the people on this thread either)

However, as one who has some understanding of Nintendo's business strategy, I really wanted to see the time when the PS3 and the 360 were cheaper than the Wii and still being outsold by it.

Also, my reasoning is more than "because I want it to" or "because it doesn't deserve to".

Originally Posted by raunm

The Wii will do fine. Lobbing fifty bucks off really isn't that big of a deal.

It's a matter of business smarts. A price cut should have been after Resort, NSMBW and WF+. These three games would have kept Nintendo in the green. The pricecut should have been a "last resort" plan for when they had no system-selling games.

Originally Posted by Double A

No, it doesn't. As a gamer, I wouldn't actually mind about the pricecut, since it doesn't directly affect me (it doesn't affect most of the people on this thread either)

However, as one who has some understanding of Nintendo's business strategy, I really wanted to see the time when the PS3 and the 360 were cheaper than the Wii and still being outsold by it.

What would you say to Japan sales then, where even before the Slim and price cut, the PS3 had been neck and neck with the Wii year to date, and Wii sales were half of what they used to be, even with heavy hitters like Monster Hunter 3 and Wii Sports Resort?

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

What would you say to Japan sales then, where even before the Slim and price cut, the PS3 had been neck and neck with the Wii year to date, and Wii sales were half of what they used to be, even with heavy hitters like Monster Hunter 3 and Wii Sports Resort?

First off, the PS3 probably had a lot more games out.

Second, didnt the PS3 have a price cut? That does wonders for short term sales.

Thirdly, in the same way that Resort wil sell higher for longer, it takes quite

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a bit of time for Resort to lift HW sales, and it has only begun to do so.

Finally, its not a matter of market share, its a matter of profit. Nintendo are only hurting themselves with an early pricecut.

Originally Posted by Double A

This is what they said about the wii...

I never said that about the Wii.

Well, maybe a price cut on the core system is just the beginning of a grander plan for Nintendo.

What if Nintendo decides to start selling the Wii in different colors and/or bundled with Wii Sports Resort and Motion Plus? Then they could put the price right up at $250 again and would continue to put a lot of marketing solely on their controller and its new capabilities.

Originally Posted by Rash

Well, maybe a price cut on the core system is just the beginning of a grander plan for Nintendo.

What if Nintendo decides to start selling the Wii in different colors and/or bundled with Wii Sports Resort and Motion Plus? Then they could put the price right up at $250 again and would continue to put a lot of marketing solely on their controller and its new capabilities.

Agreed. I've thought the same thing.

Originally Posted by Double A

First off, the PS3 probably had a lot more games out.

Second, didnt the PS3 have a price cut? That does wonders for short term sales.

The PS3 hadn't had a price cut since November 2nd, 2007 prior to the introduction of the Slim. Short-term indeed.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

The PS3 hadn't had a price cut since November 2nd, 2007 prior to the introduction of the Slim. Short-term indeed.

Well look at the games. People will only buy a console if thers a game/s they wanna get for it. I'm assuming that the PS3 had far more system-selling games than the Wii.

I don't live in the UK, but: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35882/New-...-bundle-leaked

So maybe this is the direction Nintendo's moving in? Like I already said, if Nintendo includes WM+ and Resort in the Wii package, they'd have plenty of reason to put it at $250 (or whatever the original price was, depending on region) and lower the price of the core system to something more along the lines of $200.

Originally Posted by Rash

I don't live in the UK, but: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35882/New-...-bundle-leaked

So maybe this is the direction Nintendo's moving in? Like I already said, if Nintendo includes WM+ and Resort in the Wii package, they'd have plenty of reason to put it at $250 (or whatever the original price was, depending on region) and lower the price of the core system to something more along the lines of $200.

Mr. Wonderful likes this.

Though actually, at this point, I would rather just see a Wii HD.

Originally Posted by Rash

I don't live in the UK, but: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35882/New-...-bundle-leaked

So maybe this is the direction Nintendo's moving in? Like I already said, if Nintendo includes WM+ and Resort in the Wii package, they'd have plenty of reason to put it at $250 (or whatever the original price was, depending on region) and lower the price of the core system to something more along the lines of $200.

This is somewhat odd. Wii + MoteChuk + Wii Sports + Resort + WMP? For $250? I'd expect it at something more like $280.

Still, if Nintendo's really gonna put out that new bundle without dropping the price, I can't complain.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Though actually, at this point, I would rather just see a Wii HD.

Again, bad business ideas.

Originally Posted by Double A

This is somewhat odd. Wii + MoteChuk + Wii Sports + Resort + WMP? For $250? I'd expect it at something more like $280.

Still, if Nintendo's really gonna put out that new bundle without dropping the price, I can't complain.

Not in America.

Originally Posted by Double A

This is somewhat odd. Wii + MoteChuk + Wii Sports + Resort + WMP? For $250? I'd expect it at something more like $280.

Still, if Nintendo's really gonna put out that new bundle without dropping the price, I can't complain.

No, 250 sounds about right. I don't see where your "oddness" comes from.

Again, bad business ideas.

Shouldn't you be at a business forum or something? Should we call you Professor A? Do you have some form of business degree?

He's from New Zealand. That qualifies him to make uneducated comments on every single matter from astrophysics to sexual encounters. I'm from Australia. That qualifies me to point out how most of what he says is irrelevant, and uninformed, and ultimately useless to society as whole.

Anyway, not particularly surprised at the new price drop/bundle. In Japan especially, the PS3 is muscling in on the Wii, and it has far more many blockbusters up and coming than the Wii does, and is a much better money for mileage money. Nintendo may have a massive lead, but I can see why they'd be somewhat anxious.

@raunm: Why would Wii HD be at all a good idea?

Plus, I don't really see Nintendo making another console with the same controls as the Wii

@Crab Helmet: The PS3 has been outselling the Wii because the Wii had nearly no system-sellers out for a long time. A price drop won't fix that.

In the long run, Nintendo are only hurting themselves with the pricecut.

Originally Posted by Double A

@raunm: Why would Wii HD be at all a good idea?

Why would it be a bad idea?

@Crab Helmet: The PS3 has been outselling the Wii because the Wii had nearly no system-sellers out for a long time. A price drop won't fix that.

Well Nintendo can't magically make system sellers, so what would you suggest they do?

In the long run, Nintendo are only hurting themselves with the pricecut.

Great. You should write an email to them, I'm sure they'd greatly value your professional opinion.

Originally Posted by raunm

Why would it be a bad idea?

Because it would be direct competition against Sony and MS, with their values, for a smaller audience. Nintendo wouldn't stand a chance, since Sony and MS are godlike at battling for the "hardcore". Nintendo would be putting more effort into gaining less money.

Not that Nintendo would want to try so hard for an audience that largely abandoned them in the N64/GC eras.

Why would it be a good idea?

Originally Posted by raunm

Well Nintendo can't magically make system sellers, so what would you suggest they do?

Make system sellers.

Wii Sports, Wii Fit, pretty much all of the games which are in the top 6 or so of all the games sold on the Wii are system sellers, because they sold the hardware.