The List

Originally Posted by Sailboat

Sounds like you know absolutely nothing about the game.

Well, I said I think I've seen it.


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And plus, we have to assume that Halcyon Hero's computer can't handle such big games. If it could, he probably wouldn't even own a 360. Hell, I wouldn't own my 360 if my PC wasn't an absolute piece of ♥♥♥♥.

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Originally Posted by GECK~101

They're still good games though. Sure play it on PC it's better, but Mass Effect, Fallout 3, and Oblivion are still great games reguardless.

That depends.

A huge chunk of the enjoyability of Fallout 3 and Oblivion comes with the endless possibilities that modding offers. As for Mass Effect, the combat interface is designed much more intelligently in the PC version than in the 360 version.

Sure, I guess you can say they're good on the 360, but WRPGs are only great on the PC. It's one of the genres meant to be enjoyed on the PC, like the RTS (Just like genres such as the JRPG are meant to be enjoyed on consoles).

JRPG are meant to be enjoyed on consoles

Nah, not really, that's just where they end up. I played the PC version of FFVII just fine, and the PC version of The Last Remnant was far better accepted than the console version.

My thought is, if there is ever a choice between a PC version and a console version, the PC version is always the winner. Well, almost always *mumbleDevilMayCry3mumble*. A PC port can be really shoddy in some cases, but it's rare. As long as you have the machine, the PC is a clear winner.

Originally Posted by Halcyon Hero

Alllriiighty then! The natural poverty of the HH is coming to an end as his new job swells his bank account! As such, I am in the hopes of purchasing a Xbox 360 Elite very soon, and have thusly compiled a list of games to go along with it. It is as follows:


Assassin's Creed 2 (Already have the first.)
Prototype
Prince of Persia
Bladestorm: The Hundred Year's War
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
Halo: ODST
Halo Wars
Devil May Cry 4
Infinite Undiscovery
Lost Odyssey
Army of Two
Army of Two: The 40th day
Pure
Mirror's Edge
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Viking: Battle of Asgard
Resident Evil 5 (Debating?)
Heavenly Sword (No Wiki page?)
Iron Man 2
Gears of War
Gears of War 2
Overlord
Overlord 2



So there it is. Now judging from the games on this list, what would you all recommend I add to it, or possibly subtract? Please provide any comments on the games listed or on any games you think should be.

Looks like a lot of mediocre games you'll regret buying.

Originally Posted by Halcyon Hero

Well, I said I think I've seen it.

I highly suggest you look it up.

If you enjoy open-ended WRPG's, that is. If you like games based on exploration, items, skills and sidequests, with action only serving as an obstacle, then this is the game for you.

Originally Posted by Andross

That depends.

A huge chunk of the enjoyability of Fallout 3 and Oblivion comes with the endless possibilities that modding offers. As for Mass Effect, the combat interface is designed much more intelligently in the PC version than in the 360 version.

Sure, I guess you can say they're good on the 360, but WRPGs are only great on the PC. It's one of the genres meant to be enjoyed on the PC, like the RTS (Just like genres such as the JRPG are meant to be enjoyed on consoles).

I actually get a sense of elitism when I have WRPG's on console rather than PC. It gives me the power to say thins like,

me: so did you beat morrowind
pc guy: yes.
me: did you beat it without entering ♥♥♥♥ like "additem:BEAT_GAME" in the console?
pc guy: D:
me: didn't think so

I mean sure, the console version is much more limited, but it's those exact limitations that make beating the game on the console so much more rewarding, in my opinion.

If you need more content on a 200 hour game like Oblivion, you need to get a life.

Originally Posted by Alex

If you need more content on a 200 hour game like Oblivion, you need to get a life.

Who said the game needed more content?

Originally Posted by Sailboat

Who said the game needed more content?

I believe Andross was talking about how modding adds more content/enjoyability. Might not have. I'm in "post ♥♥♥♥ without thinking" mode right now.

Originally Posted by Alex

Looks like a lot of mediocre games you'll regret buying.

Any particular reason why, or do you just feel like being contrary? Not that it matters, since I'll be ignoring your posts from now on for calling AC2, DMC4, Castlevania, and Pure (putting aside some of the slightly lesser games listed) mediocre.

Um, but AC2 hasn't been released yet.

Mirrors Edge is not worth the buy. A rent definitely, but, not at all worth the 60 bucks.

You should add:

Modern Warfare 2
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Battlefield 1943
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Shadow Complex
Splosion Man
The Orange Box

Originally Posted by Halcyon Hero

Any particular reason why, or do you just feel like being contrary? Not that it matters, since I'll be ignoring your posts from now on for calling AC2, DMC4, Castlevania, and Pure (putting aside some of the slightly lesser games listed) mediocre.

Well, there's definitely some good games on there.

Seems like maybe money isn't a big concern, since you listed like... however many games. I'll do a little list. These are from personal experience, I'm not listing anything I haven't played.

Worth the price tag...
Halo 3
Call of Duty 4
Resident Evil 5
The Orange Box
Bioshock
Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2
Shadow Complex
Viva Pinata

There's also ODST and Modern Warfare 2 to consider, if you like Call of Duty or Halo.

Devil May Cry 4 is a lot of fun while it lasts, but I'd call it a $30 game, opposed to $60. I got about 20 hours out of it, but didn't really feel the need to play it again. Good game, but not amazing. I've also heard from friends that Mirror's Edge isn't at all worth buying, very short experience that supposedly gets old rather fast, though I've never played the game myself.

No comment on Assassin's Creed, Castlevania, or Pure, because I either greatly dislike or just don't care about them.

Edit: Batman: Arkham Asylum looks like it's going to be game of the year, so I'd recommend it, even without any personal experience that goes outside the demo.

I saw DMC4 for 10 bucks.

Originally Posted by master iem

I saw DMC4 for 10 bucks.

It's definitely worth $10, but where the hell did you see a $60 game for that little?

Originally Posted by Halcyon Hero

Alllriiighty then! The natural poverty of the HH is coming to an end as his new job swells his bank account! As such, I am in the hopes of purchasing a Xbox 360 Elite very soon, and have thusly compiled a list of games to go along with it. It is as follows:


Uncharted 2
Dead Rising 2
Bioshock 2
Batman Arkham Asylum
Metal Gear Rising
Metal Gear Peace Walker
Fable 2
Dead Space Extraction


So there it is. Now judging from the games on this list, what would you all recommend I add to it, or possibly subtract? Please provide any comments on the games listed or on any games you think should be.

I fixed your list for you! Now it only has good games in it

Originally Posted by Pearl

Um, but AC2 hasn't been released yet.

Yes, but there's been more then enough footage and commentaries to give me no doubt about it's quality.

Originally Posted by Alex

Well, there's definitely some good games on there.

Seems like maybe money isn't a big concern, since you listed like... however many games. I'll do a little list. These are from personal experience, I'm not listing anything I haven't played.

Worth the price tag...
Halo 3
Call of Duty 4
Resident Evil 5
The Orange Box
Bioshock
Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2
Shadow Complex
Viva Pinata

There's also ODST and Modern Warfare 2 to consider, if you like Call of Duty or Halo.

Devil May Cry 4 is a lot of fun while it lasts, but I'd call it a $30 game, opposed to $60. I got about 20 hours out of it, but didn't really feel the need to play it again. Good game, but not amazing. I've also heard from friends that Mirror's Edge isn't at all worth buying, very short experience that supposedly gets old rather fast, though I've never played the game myself.

No comment on Assassin's Creed, Castlevania, or Pure, because I either greatly dislike or just don't care about them.

Edit: Batman: Arkham Asylum looks like it's going to be game of the year, so I'd recommend it, even without any personal experience that goes outside the demo.

Well, now, that's better. Mostly.

Originally Posted by master iem

I saw DMC4 for 10 bucks.

Yes, where?

Originally Posted by Alex

It's definitely worth $10, but where the hell did you see a $60 game for that little?

I meant 10 euros, sorry

I saw in here in Holland in Media-Markt.

Originally Posted by Alex

I believe Andross was talking about how modding adds more content/enjoyability. Might not have. I'm in "post ♥♥♥♥ without thinking" mode right now.

Considering that Oblivion isn't exactly a "new" game, and considering that the variety within the 200 hours of content wears thin, it is only reasonable to assume that plenty of people who have had the game have grown bored with the in-game content present.

Modding fixes that.

I mean sure, the console version is much more limited, but it's those exact limitations that make beating the game on the console so much more rewarding, in my opinion.

Unlike the JRPG genre, which is focused on presenting a narrative and attaching the player to the characters, the purpose of the WRPG genre is to allow the player to play whatever way he wants. If a person wants to play god-mode, he should be able to. Meh, to each his own, I guess.

Personally, here's the way I like to view the differences between JRPGs and WRPGs. It's like the type of DM you get when playing DnD; on one hand, you have the DM who can tell a very good story but is very strict with the rules. That's the JRPG DM. Then you have the DM who isn't really focused on the story but allows alot of freedom in his sessions. That's the WRPG DM (To be fair, this isn't always the case; Mass Effect is heavily focused on its narrative, for example, even though it's not a JRPG).

I enjoy both breeds.

Originally Posted by Alex

Devil May Cry 4 is a lot of fun while it lasts, but I'd call it a $30 game, opposed to $60. I got about 20 hours out of it, but didn't really feel the need to play it again. Good game, but not amazing. I've also heard from friends that Mirror's Edge isn't at all worth buying, very short experience that supposedly gets old rather fast, though I've never played the game myself.

I think I saw that it was supposed to be coming out in a 3-pack for $30 with Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

Originally Posted by Andross

Mass Effect? Fallout 3? Oblivion?

What are you guys talking about? They're terrible on the 360. Get them for the PC instead; they're excellent on the PC, and it's the only platform worth playing them on.

Except, you know, if you can't afford a computer that can play those games, a 360 is a fine and cheaper alternative.

Your list looks fine to me except, why buy Version 1 of a game when you can buy Version 2, which is usually superior in every way. If your worried about the story, you could always ask a friend or something. Also, your going to have enough money to buy an Elite, plus all of those $60 games? I suggest making your list shorter, and adding Oblivion to the list, as many people have said, it's a game that will last you a long time. I also suggest getting it before others, since it will last you a long time, in between the purchases. Oh, and if we're adding games that haven't come out yet, Final Fantasy : XIII, and Modern Warefare II.

Another thing, that's very important, are you going to be getting Xbox Live? If so, I suggest Left 4 Dead 2. Great multiplayer game, atleast the first is.